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Estrangement

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Potteringabout24 Sat 23-Nov-24 18:13:30

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Although I hurt deeply, I can confirm that getting on with life after estrangement from my only daughter is possible. I regularly revisit her childhood in my head and know that I didn’t recognise the problems she had or deal with them appropriately. I just carried on dealing with it all thinking we would get through it somehow . I now think she may be autistic, or have been sexually abused. These were barely known about in those days. To other people her behaviour was a nightmare and she had few friends. My friends were supportive with childcare.
Looking back there were a lot of red flags that I should have seen and I regret bitterly my not taking different action. in her 20s I tried to help her with independent housing, she had basic jobs and seemed to be managing, then came a psychotic breakdown, diagnosed bipolar. She refused medication, but somehow got better. She rejected my help apart from cash which I did not begrudge. Eventually I moved away but we kept in touch by phone and email. She had a boyfriend who caused problems and after dramas in which she said she would leave her flat, my family ,partner and I bought a house for her to live in, as I was sure she would end up on the streets. This seemed a good solution and things went comparatively well for a few years, and things settled down with b/f. I did not see her very much, but last year there was a family party which we all enjoyed and we seemed close. 4 moths on and the accusations started…she had made many before about practically everyone in her fathers family. In fact he had been convicted of sexually assaulting a cousin. She at the time denied that the same had happened to her. We had to talk very carefully about all this and I did everything I could to support her, but when she made the accusations about me I could not cope. She turned to other members of my family who dealt with her carefully but thought she was manipulatively trying to extract cash for her silence. This has been distressing and harrowing and I don’t know why she has said all this. I have said that of course I regret some things that I could have done better, while never really naming her appalling behaviour. ( though in fact she has apologised for being a nightmare when she was growing up)
In the summer I made an unannounced visit which was a disaster, but I needed to see that she was alive, and managing. When I saw her apparently working a bit , coping with her relationship and seeing that I was the person who she was most angry with, withdrew and have not had any contact since then.
I have to say on a day to day basis life is easier not having to contend with malicious emails every day. I do things that make me feel calmer and less stressed. I am incredibly sad, and still worry about her mental health as well as my own, but I accept this is how it has to be for now. I can’t decide whether to send her something for Xmas birthday as the last time there was no acknowledgement. So I think many of the posters on here are right about no contact can be possible, though she will always be my daughter , I love her but cannot bear her behaviour towards me any more. I hope some of you get to have happier stories.

eddiecat78 Sun 24-Nov-24 08:05:08

Potteringabout24 please ignore any accusatory comments here. Sadly the Estrangement thread attracts some very unpleasant people - it is best to report their posts and not engage with them.
It is obvious you are an amazing mum who couldn't have done more .

Georgesgran Sun 24-Nov-24 08:10:57

Well said eddiecat78. I was about to post a similar message, but your words are much the same as mine.

Potteringabout24 Sun 24-Nov-24 08:29:03

Thank you for your replies. My worries are that she has no friends or anybody to help if she needs it, she is sucked into the the internet conspiracy world which causes her to seem like a different person from the one I know she could be. I won’t stop worrying, but I will let her be until she wants change.
I think that nothing has ever been enough, and frankly I have little left to give but I would do my best to get a little communication going again. I don’t want her to feel abandoned by me but I guess that she has made the choice.

Potteringabout24 Sun 24-Nov-24 08:31:33

I hope the posters who have experienced this from the other side and post vitriol try and live their lives without taking it out on others who have nothing to do with them.

Allsorts Sun 24-Nov-24 08:34:32

Wowser, where is your emphathy for OP? Her daughter has a recognised condition that prevents her having any thought for anyone but herself. The mother has tried everything. The d us an adult and most parent would not have had the resources to buy her a home.
Please stop beating yourself up Pottering, we all go down the self blame route thinking how could I have done things differently, but did our very best at the time, can she say that?. I would just send a card, that's not intrusive but loving, she knows you care anyway. She's an adult now so let her manage.
We can choose to be bitter and blame someone else for our problems.

Smileless2012 Sun 24-Nov-24 08:41:33

She knows where you are Potteringabout and how to contact you should she need too so she does have someone to help if she needs it. She has her mum flowers.

DiamondLily Sun 24-Nov-24 08:48:41

Potteringabout24

I hope the posters who have experienced this from the other side and post vitriol try and live their lives without taking it out on others who have nothing to do with them.

Sadly, this forum does sometimes attract these types of people.

They feel the need to blame others for the obvious unhappiness in their own lives.

You sound as though you’ve tried to do your best.

Unfortunately the internet is full of all sorts of rubbish, along with the good stuff, and some people get dragged into that world.

I wish you well, whatever you choose to do regarding your daughter and Christmas.🌺

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DiamondLily Sun 24-Nov-24 09:07:53

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I had a good relationship with my parents, and have never had the slightest problem with my adult children.

But, you do you.👍😂

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MissAdventure Sun 24-Nov-24 09:15:16

Hmmmmmm.... 🤔

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DiamondLily Sun 24-Nov-24 09:23:54

MissAdventure

Hmmmmmm.... 🤔

Indeed. 😉

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Grunty Sun 24-Nov-24 09:36:53

Such a familiar writing style.......🤔

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stillawip Sun 24-Nov-24 10:21:23

I actually think that it's a shame that some posts were deleted here (apart from the foul language ones, of course), as they must surely give the best insight into how EAC's might be feeling. Putting ourselves in their shoes and imagining how things would 'land' when said/done is incredibly hard to do, but seeing how raw those posts were, I think they are well worth taking note of and using to inform your decision.
OP, I feel so much for you - your daughter is unwell and clearly has some issues, but that that doesn't mean you should ignore any 'boundaries' she has asked for. From your original post, it sounds like you actually withdrew from her after the family party, rather than the other way round, so maybe a card and a present would be welcomed, as a signal that you are still there and still love her. However, if she has expressly asked you not to contact her or send anything, then I would advise not doing so, even via a charity donation in her name, as that will be seen as trying to 'get around her rules' by the back door. Still write a card & buy a present, but keep them with you in a box/file, so that you can give them to her at some point in the future to show her that you were always thinking of her.
I wish you the very best of luck flowers

Smileless2012 Sun 24-Nov-24 10:29:23

Perhaps insight to how some are feeling stillawip. I prefer to think that our ES is happily getting on with his life. I'd hate to think of him being so angry and unhappy that he felt the need to take it out on strangers on the internet, just because they happen to be EP's.

If that were the case I could only conclude that estranging hadn't been the right decision for him and he was regretting it.

Fleurpepper Sun 24-Nov-24 10:33:06

Missed all the deleted posts? What was that all about.

Potteringabout- I am so glad you have found a way to come to terms, somehow, with what has happened, and can face a world where you are comfortable with yourself. All the very best.

stillawip Sun 24-Nov-24 10:34:22

Yes, absolutely, that's why I said "might" be feeling, in case that was a view that hadn't previously been considered.

keepingquiet Sun 24-Nov-24 10:42:55

Potteringabout24

Thank you keeping quiet.

You are welcome.