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Potteringabout24 Sat 23-Nov-24 18:13:30

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Although I hurt deeply, I can confirm that getting on with life after estrangement from my only daughter is possible. I regularly revisit her childhood in my head and know that I didn’t recognise the problems she had or deal with them appropriately. I just carried on dealing with it all thinking we would get through it somehow . I now think she may be autistic, or have been sexually abused. These were barely known about in those days. To other people her behaviour was a nightmare and she had few friends. My friends were supportive with childcare.
Looking back there were a lot of red flags that I should have seen and I regret bitterly my not taking different action. in her 20s I tried to help her with independent housing, she had basic jobs and seemed to be managing, then came a psychotic breakdown, diagnosed bipolar. She refused medication, but somehow got better. She rejected my help apart from cash which I did not begrudge. Eventually I moved away but we kept in touch by phone and email. She had a boyfriend who caused problems and after dramas in which she said she would leave her flat, my family ,partner and I bought a house for her to live in, as I was sure she would end up on the streets. This seemed a good solution and things went comparatively well for a few years, and things settled down with b/f. I did not see her very much, but last year there was a family party which we all enjoyed and we seemed close. 4 moths on and the accusations started…she had made many before about practically everyone in her fathers family. In fact he had been convicted of sexually assaulting a cousin. She at the time denied that the same had happened to her. We had to talk very carefully about all this and I did everything I could to support her, but when she made the accusations about me I could not cope. She turned to other members of my family who dealt with her carefully but thought she was manipulatively trying to extract cash for her silence. This has been distressing and harrowing and I don’t know why she has said all this. I have said that of course I regret some things that I could have done better, while never really naming her appalling behaviour. ( though in fact she has apologised for being a nightmare when she was growing up)
In the summer I made an unannounced visit which was a disaster, but I needed to see that she was alive, and managing. When I saw her apparently working a bit , coping with her relationship and seeing that I was the person who she was most angry with, withdrew and have not had any contact since then.
I have to say on a day to day basis life is easier not having to contend with malicious emails every day. I do things that make me feel calmer and less stressed. I am incredibly sad, and still worry about her mental health as well as my own, but I accept this is how it has to be for now. I can’t decide whether to send her something for Xmas birthday as the last time there was no acknowledgement. So I think many of the posters on here are right about no contact can be possible, though she will always be my daughter , I love her but cannot bear her behaviour towards me any more. I hope some of you get to have happier stories.

eddiecat78 Sun 24-Nov-24 08:05:08

Potteringabout24 please ignore any accusatory comments here. Sadly the Estrangement thread attracts some very unpleasant people - it is best to report their posts and not engage with them.
It is obvious you are an amazing mum who couldn't have done more .

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DiamondLily Sun 24-Nov-24 07:02:08

In which case, it won’t do any harm. 🙂

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DiamondLily Sun 24-Nov-24 06:29:26

Potteringabout24

As parents/step parents, most of us do our level best for our ACs,, but for some, nothing will ever be enough.

I would possibly take the middle ground here - choose a charity, of your choice, and make a donation in your daughter’s name. And ask them to send the acknowledgment to her.

That way, at least, you’ll be doing some good for someone that needs help.

Sorry you are going through this. 🌺

mum2three Sun 24-Nov-24 06:21:58

I hope my daughter doesn't read your post and think it was written by me, because your story sounds so similar to my own. The difference is that the health visitor realised that something wasn't right about her and she had tests done. The doctor said, 'something isn't right but I can't put my finger on what it is'. I think these days, she would be diagnosed with autism.
My husband, her father, showed similar behaviour to hers, so I think there must be a genetic factor involved.
Some years ago, she cut me out of her life. Her loss, I think.

Underscore Sun 24-Nov-24 06:14:59

I'm sorry that you are going through this. I don't know what else to say, but I wish you all the best.

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TopGunner Sun 24-Nov-24 00:07:32

If I was in your position and after all the trauma in the past and present, I would wait for your daughter to take the lead. She needs to sit back and think about what has happened.

You bought her a house so she wouldn't be on the streets, what else can you do for her especially when it is thrown back in your face. A lot of people blame others for their short comings especially when things go wrong in their lives but at the end of the day she is an adult and should be taking responsibility for her own life.

You only live once and should not spend the rest of your life thinking about someone who has made it perfectly clear that you are not wanted in her life so let her get on with hers.

Grunty Sat 23-Nov-24 23:45:39

That's absolutely fine Pottering, donate to whichever charity you feel best represents your feelings. flowers

Potteringabout24 Sat 23-Nov-24 23:33:30

Yes that is a really good idea but it would have to be a charity of my choice as has rarely displayed any empathy for others….thank you .

Babs03 Sat 23-Nov-24 23:04:31

@Potteringabout, thanks for sharing this.
There does come a point where we have to withdraw for our own well-being, and I really can relate to how horrible it is to go from being a loving helpful parent to someone your daughter feels so angry about she has to send malicious emails.
The thing is you have done your level best, and it sounds as if you tried really hard to support your daughter, so you shouldn’t beat yourself up. But we do, I know. However, stay with ‘the calm’ for now, recover your strength and health.
We love our ACs but sometimes we have to let go for our own sake as well as theirs.
And this may well not be a long term thing, yours could be the happy story.
Grunty has a great idea for a birthday/Xmas present.
Take care 🌺🙏🏾

BlueBelle Sat 23-Nov-24 22:45:16

I m afraid I would always send a card and some money whether it was acknowledge or wanted or not She would know one day that I never gave up on her, never, no matter what.

Smileless2012 Sat 23-Nov-24 22:10:22

That's a good idea Grunty.

Grunty Sat 23-Nov-24 22:04:26

Potteringabout I don't know if you've considered a charitable donation on your daughter's behalf? Is their a particular charity that you know she supported, that you could make a donation in her name perhaps? That way, you've marked her birthday and, if you choose to, the charity could contact her themselves to thank her.

Grunty Sat 23-Nov-24 21:59:28

So erudite. flowers

Smileless2012 Sat 23-Nov-24 21:49:37

Hello Potteringabout.

keepingquiet is right. Sometimes sending gifts and/or cards is what we do because it helps us. Even one sided contact is better than no contact at all, or so it seems.

If and when the time comes that you no longer feel that you are benefiting by doing this, it's OK to stop.

Our EAC will always be our children, we will always love them and when the time comes to free ourselves from the behaviour that hurts us, having no contact really is the only option we have.

If not sending anything for her birthday and Christmas helps you then don't, but if you still need too for your own peace of mind then go ahead.

There's no right or wrong, what's best for you is the right thing to do flowers.

Potteringabout24 Sat 23-Nov-24 21:43:33

Thank you keeping quiet.

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keepingquiet Sat 23-Nov-24 21:27:30

It sounds like you have been through hell and are coming out the other side. You have been willing to accept you may have made some mistakes but whatever you have done didn't work.

Of course you still love her and that will never change and although we often feel that sending birthday cards or Christmas gifts will help, it only really helps us. I stopped sending gifts to a certain person this year and it made me feel more in control whereas previously I had felt the need, wanting to be the bigger person or whatever.

Your daughter is practising self-love, and so can you. Don't feel bad about it, there is some freedom in it as you have already admitted.

I really do feel for you.

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