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Support and friendship for those whose lives have been affected by estrangement.

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Smileless2012 Sat 04-Jan-25 10:59:10

Just as we know the pain and anguish that words of anger, bitterness and sometimes hate can cause, we also know the power of words to comfort, support, understand and sometimes help to heal.

This is and always has been the reason for this support thread, it's why it was started so long ago and why it continues. The fact that true friendships are made as regular posters share much of their lives with one another, good and bad, is a wonderful bonus there for all who continue to post and for new comers too.

DiamondLily Sun 01-Jun-25 18:12:42

Hi everyone 💐💐💐💐

It isn’t hard to work out who the latest disrupter is.

I’m sure other forums would be better for her, but hey, ho, no accounting for what folk do.🙄

Hope everyone is well x

Smileless2012 Sun 01-Jun-25 16:35:50

Afternoon everyone.

I've just reported her too Whiff because I've only just come on GN having got home and put everything away from our holiday. It's obvious who DARVO is and as you say, the name says it all. If only she could see the irony hmm.

Luminance Sun 01-Jun-25 15:59:13

I feel the forum just isn't for me. I appreciated the experience and it helped me gain some insight into my own family issues but I don't think my input is needed or wanted here otherwise. All the best.

Whiff Sun 01-Jun-25 13:14:36

Luminance found an old post of hers and DARVO stands for Deny,Attack Reverse, Victim and Offender .
That says it all.

Luminance Sun 01-Jun-25 13:03:40

It's rather frustrating. Even when Gransnet removes her people continue engaging with her and tempting her back.

Whiff Sun 01-Jun-25 11:18:53

I am so angry have any of you been on the Chat forum . Family versus individuality. And read DARVO 10.55 post . Guess who is back. Have reported her . 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

Yoginimeisje Sun 01-Jun-25 07:55:50

Morning all

Lovely to hear about all the gardening. Glad you had a good trip to PortsmouthSmiles and that Mr.S was OK at his sister's funeral. I too have decided to holiday in the UK from now on, have had enough of airports, and as you say Allsorts; so many lovely places here and good weather too.

Went to a 'Hoe Down' on Friday, good fun with lots of dancing.

Smileless2012 Sat 31-May-25 19:37:43

It has been Sparkly and exhausting too. It's been wonderful but we'll be glad to get home smile.

SparklyGrandma Sat 31-May-25 13:21:53

Afternoon everyone.

The U.K. has beautiful areas and towns to visit. Before c** I would have holidays in places with a cathedral. I had not visited many and I visited about 11. The mix of peacefulness, spiritually , history and beautiful medieval art - coloured glass windows, fonts, chapels, stonework was soothing to my estranged heart.
And I do love a target and had to set myself tasks after retirement.
I had never been to York, so in 2018 I set off (I had a first cousin nearby).
The whole of the cathedral was magnificent, the town itself was quaint.
Ones of note that I visited; Exeter, York, Winchester ( I visited the 200th anniversary of Jane Austen’s death), Llandaff, Leeds RC cathedral, Hereford, Gloucester, Wells. Halifax Minster.

Smileless your trip visiting relatives and friends sounds like a real boost?

Smileless2012 Sat 31-May-25 09:00:34

Morning everyone.

You did the right thing getting someone to bring your garden back to a manageable state Allsorts. I'm very fortunate to have an excellent gardener; Mr. S. grin.

Glad you've booked another holiday, where are you off too?

Allsorts Fri 30-May-25 22:55:46

Glad you are enjoying your time in Portsmouth Smileless. It a long time since I visited it.
My garden became a bit overgrown but I have paid a firm to tidy it and I should be able to maintain it again. That's the trouble with a big garden, you only need leave it a few months and it's unmanageable, I honestly don't know what I would do with myself without my garden. There never seems to be enough hours in the day. Booked another holiday, just a week plus a few days out, They are all in the UK as I mostly went abroad in the past but we have such a beautiful country and I want to see the places I haven't been to.

Smileless2012 Fri 30-May-25 15:17:22

Good afternoon.

Yes, we're having a great time here in Portsmouth Whiff. Went to Gunwharf today, fabulous shops and Mr. S. treated me to a lovely bag and Radley watch shock. Both came as a complete surprise and those make the best gifts don't they.

The funeral service was lovely and he coped with it very well Whiff; thanks for asking.

The sun is out and we're having a G & T in the garden before taking the dogs out for a sedate walk along a stream. Not sure what we'll be doing tomorrow but after today's shopping spree shops may be best avoided hmm.

Luminance Thu 29-May-25 19:51:04

Whiff just stunning, so lovely. What a wonderful inspiration.

Whiff Thu 29-May-25 18:50:44

Luminance I love the way Gertrude Jeckle did gardens all highly piggly like mine . I have a Gertrude Jeckle bush rose which has pink flowers and smells lovely and have lots of flowers . Thomas a Beckett rose which is red but no fragrance. Plants have 2 choices is my garden live or die. The only time I brought the correct compost was for 2 blueberry bushes and really looked after them and they died . The one 1 gave my daughter she just put into the ground and has lots of blueberries every year. I learnt my lesson never pamper any plants .

Smiles glad you are having such a good time . Hope Mr S was ok at his sister's funeral . Portsmouth is a lovely place . Hopefully it's not to wet.

Allsorts I have been very lucky with my tradesmen. And have lovely delivery drivers as I do a lot of shopping online. But I do worry about the young woman especially in the dark so when I know she's delivering at dusk or in the dark make sure all my drive is lit up.

Luminance Wed 28-May-25 15:30:16

Whiff we do have a man that comes to do the lawns and things that need cutting back but I crave some beautiful flowerbeds. You all seem to have such a good eye for it.

Smileless2012 Wed 28-May-25 08:59:50

Morning everyone.

Wonderful news about Mr. B. Babs, you must be thrilled and so relieved after all you've been through.

We leave my cousins today after a very busy few days re visiting the places we and my GP's lived and the schools we attended. The highlight was seeing my gran's niece, our great aunty Betty, who is 95 years young. We had a lovely afternoon and I couldn't help thinking how pleased granny would have been to know we were all together.

Mr. S. drove up to Oxford yesterday for his sister's funeral today and when he gets back, we'll be going to my dear friend's in Portsmouth for a few days, returning home on Sunday.

Glad to see you enjoyed your holiday Whiff and you all get pleasure from your gardens.

Take care everyone xx

Allsorts Wed 28-May-25 06:32:15

You are indeed fortunate where you live Whiff. Getting workmen here is not easy. If you get anyone who is reliable and can do the job without it costing a fortune it's a red letter day. The first hurdle is finding someone the second is them actually turning up. I paid someone 2 ago to paint the front of my house, I bought all the materials, he said he wanted half up front the day he started. He worked that day, it was a heatwave and he said it was too hot and would be back, not seen him yet. Only a mobile number which he never answered.

Whiff Wed 28-May-25 06:22:07

Luminance where I used to live had to have a gardener because I couldn't do it after my husband died. 2 large lawns and boarders. When I moved smallish front and back gardens . Fake lawn and could manage the boarders but last year had to admit defeat . My balance isn't good enough for weeding . I sat on a stool to do it but parts had to stand on the boarders . Just not safe anyone . I can look after my pots and raised planters and grow my veg in my greenhouse and in the pots . But hired a wonderful chap who even knows the Latin names of plants plus gets on his hands and knees to do the boarders he comes every 2 weeks . Plus he's a nice person to talk to and my gardens always looks lovely.

Luminance Mon 26-May-25 10:19:09

I have an unfortunately large garden and struggle to maintain it. Perhaps retirement will bring me that joy.

Yoginimeisje Mon 26-May-25 09:30:56

Whiff I have a £25 gift voucher to spend too.

Have a nice day everyone xx

Yoginimeisje Mon 26-May-25 09:26:58

Nice new tree Sparkly, it will be good to see it once it's grown. I have a Honey lotus tree in my garden with similar leaves, but very pale green. I'm really into my garden at the moment, with watching all the episodes of 'Chelsea flower show'. Off to B&Q this afternoon smile.

Whiff Mon 26-May-25 07:39:51

SparklyGrandma Rowan's are beautiful. My daughter and family gave me a £40 gift voucher for garden centre so going Wednesday as there is a bus that stops near by as I am at my GP appointment for 9 so will have most of the day out.

I do hope your adult grand daughter's get in touch and see for themselves you are not the monster their dad makes out .

I am not brave but very stubborn and have a temper. But haven't lost it at anyone apart from myself since my husband died. Unfortunately since my stay in hospital in January I can no longer do something things and other things have gotten worse . So phoned my neurologist secretary and got an appointment to see him in August by then with probably have more to report . I am still classed as under review so don't have to go through my GP to see my neurologist.

Any new plants my gardener will plant for me . As the last time I planted 2 hebes he took one look and said I had better replant them 🤣.

Have a good bank holiday everyone.

SparklyGrandma Sun 25-May-25 19:22:34

Whiff sounds like an exciting time you had. You are brave!

Estrangment is painful and mine is ongoing. ExDH has relayed to me that our EstDS is afraid that his now adult daughters will try and see me (Yey) and allegedly started turning things around to say that I refuse to see them.

Some people…

Garden very green with No Mow May long grass..

My new Rowan ‘Copper Kettle’. For autumn interest. Gardener planted of course.

Happy Bank Holiday everyone.

Bridie22 Fri 23-May-25 22:17:10

That's good news Whiff, sending hugs to Babs x

Spring20 Fri 23-May-25 22:04:06

Thanks for the update. Good news!

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