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Absolutely Broken Mum

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crazyH Wed 29-Oct-25 18:22:59

Oh so very sad Strugglingmum - I don’t have any real advice except to say, mothers get a bad deal, as you will see if you through the ‘estrangement’ forum. It’s most of often, us, mothers. In my case it certainly is.
I am not estranged, but dealing with children, d.I.ls and their inter-relationships, is so tough on me.
But my issues are nothing compared to yours.
I hope someone will come along with some good advice.
In the meanwhile, take care, you and your DH.
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Strugglingmum86 Wed 29-Oct-25 18:07:01

Thank you for your kind words of advise. The court issued a restraining order so he cannot come near me (this also kills me as there are days when I just want to go and speak to him or at least try then my family say not to do it) I wish I could beg him to get the help he needs but he will not take any responsibility at all and thinks he has done nothing wrong! It’s though he completely believes his own lies. Everyone said to me having him arrested would give him the shock he needed - that didn’t work! Then finally deciding enough was enough and supporting prosecution (which broke my heart) - that didn’t work, then finally him pleading guilty at the last minute before I was due to give evidence (thank god) but even that didn’t work as within an hour I was being told that he was still denying any responsibility to his Probation Officer despite just pleading guilty! I love him so much but he just cannot see how much he is hurting people.

Smileless2012 Wed 29-Oct-25 17:50:06

My heart goes out to you Strugglingmum. Like the vast majority of mum's your love for your son is unconditional, and the pain you're going through is so immense, that it's no wonder you're feeling the way you do flowers.

Taking care of you, is not turning your back on him but having him in your life in his current state wont help him and will only be bad for you.

I'm so sorry that despite your best efforts, you were unable to get him the diagnosis and help that it sounds he needs because now he's 19, there's nothing you can do.

As DianneAngel has said looking into PDA could help you, because I think you need to know that this is entirely out of your control and has nothing to do with the way you parented. It may also provide you with information you could pass onto him that may help him to understand why he behaves as he does, and could also give him the impetus he needs to seek help for himself.

DamaskRose Wed 29-Oct-25 17:08:38

I have no advice to give you but I couldn’t just say nothing. I’m so sorry for you, I think I’d feel the same but I do think you must look after yourself. You feel so let down I know but could you try for some help for yourself now? Please take care of yourself in whatever way you can. I’m sorry to have nothing more helpful to say.

Strugglingmum86 Wed 29-Oct-25 16:56:49

I have an adult daughter who now no longer speaks to him because of the way he treats people and the lies he tells. It’s just horrible

Davida1968 Wed 29-Oct-25 16:00:01

Strugglingmum86, do you have other children? If so, do they see your DS? Perhaps his siblings could let you know how he's doing?

DianneAngel Wed 29-Oct-25 15:55:46

PDA, Pathological Demand Avoidance, if you tell him to do something it sets up so much anxiety that he would have a meltdown, kicking, throwing and screaming. My Grandson has it and he is 14 years. Luckily, he is in a special school that deals with this disorder. It might be worth looking into for your Son. It may not help him but if this is the problem then it would help you. I am in U.K. Good luck for your future with him. hugs

Strugglingmum86 Wed 29-Oct-25 15:51:27

He was going through CYPS for possible ADHD but they dropped him when he stopped going to appointments. I genuinly think he has some sort of disorder that is undiagnosed but no professionals want to know. We have been so let down as a family.

Babs03 Wed 29-Oct-25 15:49:13

Welcome to GN. So sorry you are experiencing this it sounds absolutely dreadful, sounds like your son has behavioural problems that started years ago, but am no expert, sadly any agencies involved have seriously let you down.
But right now you need to put your own well-being first and keep your distance, heartbreaking though it is, the episode with the knife is a warning that this could be very dangerous for yourself and your DH.
And if he breaks the restraining order ring the police straight away.
I imagine he is behaving violently towards any girlfriends as well so I imagine he will be on the police radar, and I fear for the girls he becomes involved with.
Please don’t take him back in or you could be enabling his abuse, unless he agrees to seek help with anger management and other behavioural issues before returning.
My heart goes out to you.
Take care and do keep us updated
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Maremia Wed 29-Oct-25 15:32:42

Not excusing anything, but were there mental health issues?

Strugglingmum86 Wed 29-Oct-25 15:01:46

I am new here and I dont want to ramble on as it is such a long story so I will try to be brief but I have no where else to turn and cant find anyone that has been in a similar situation.
My son has just turned 19, he started putting me through child to parent abuse when he started high school (not that I knew it even existed but Iv slowly learned thats what it was) he never liked the word NO or being told he couldnt do something and started to rebel. He was obsessed with his phone, social media & girls and nothing and no one was going to stop him. He ran away down country 4 x to meet girls on line that he didnt know etc. Every time I tried to discipline him he would kick off, calling me names, throwing things, punching holes in walls and his bedroom door, then the violence started with "a push" to the point I spent every waking minute walking on egg shells with him.
I tried for years to get him help, begging professionals from Early Years, child services, CYPS and eventually having a Child to Parent Violence officer. He would not engage with any of them and they just kept referring him to "the next professional".
He turned 18 in 2024 and after that all professionals ceased contact with him and told me they could not help as he was now an adult. I may as well have been knocking my head against a brick wall.
Fast forward to Christmas 2024 and he got very drunk and threatened my husband and I with a knife. My neighbours called the police as and I have now not seen my son for 10 months. That was the 8th time in 13months the police had been called to our address due to Domestic Incidents from him. It went to court a few weeks ago and he was found Guilty of Assaulting me and of Criminal Damage and got an 18 month High Community Order and 18 Month restraining order.
I know that some mums, if this were their son would just turn their backs on them but I am not that mum, and this is killing me!! His birthday was last week and I cried the whole day and now I cant bare the thought of Christmas (Its always been my favourite time of year) without him or seeing him or being able to speak to him.
My son is not all bad, he can be the most sweetest, thoughtful person!
He has now moved to another town with girlfriend/Fiance number 100000, and I have heard on the grapevine that he doesn't treat her well, doesn't get out of bed all day and is living off Universal credit! This is not the way myself and his dad brought him up, we have worked all our lives, given him a loving, clean home and even after separating it was very amicable and we are still good friends.
My son is the first thing I think of when I wake up, and all day every day. Even after everything he has put me through I still love and miss him so much and I feel like I am a shadow of my former self, I have no motivation, burst into tears randomly all the time and at work. Im just broken.