Estrangement for celebrities

Some families do not get on. Life isn't a hallmark movie unfortunately. I would feel relief if a horrible family member cut me off and relief were I to cut off a horrible family member. Then find a way to move on and find joy in this life. I won't get another.

Lots of situations are far more complicated, often with mental illness or personality disorder behind them meaning it cannot be resolved because they cannot see the truth of it all. Even with clear evidence they cannot or won't accept fault. Whether that is one party or both.

Of course the healthy thing is to seek help for your own self and find a way to move forward whatever the situation. These relationships are damaging too often and hurt people hurt people without healing and growth.

They were invited.
Then the thing happened with the mom wanting to wear cream, they said it wasn’t appropriate and offered to take her shopping for an outfit which didn't happen then something about her not being invited to the hen do or couldn't afford where the bride had chosen.

Then the brother kicked off about not being invited on the stag do and threatened Adam and was arrested for harassment. Adam had to be escorted off the plane by armed security because he was going to 'meet him off the plane', obviously then was uninvited.

THEN the mom said she wouldn’t go if the brother couldn't go. Then she sold stories and was told she was no longer invited, then HER sister made comments on Holly's Instagram which made it to the papers..and I think the mom and aunt sold stories to the papers on their wedding day including the text she sent him when he was about to walk down the aisle.

It's been all over papers since 2024!

It's hard to comment, it sounds like an episode of Eastenders, saying that, the ramsey side aren't much better.

"How sharper than a serpent's tooth it is to have an ungrateful child" Shakespeare's King Lear.

Yes MayBee. Great way to repay your parents Peaty for all the time and money they put into you in the early years of your swimming career. Without that help your medals more than likely would never have materialised.

Ungrateful wretch.

All I can think of is how much his parents must have done to help him achieve his sporting goals .

It's still very sad for them even though they are celebrities with money and affluence.
The one thing that they sacrifice is privacy .

To not have your mother in your life because they don’t fit in, is hateful. Hardly the actions of a Christian. I thought a lot at the wedding looked tacky to put it kindly.
I would hate my family to be constantly in the public eye. Why this posting each day with pictures and their life history, if I was a child of such a couple I would distance from the circus asap.

Sallywally1

I have no opinion on the Beckhams but feel for their estrangement from their son. The wedding today of Gordon ramsey’s daughter is another one. The grooms mother was not invited to the wedding. She said’i feel as though they have ripped my heart out’. I know how she feels

Nobody needs know or have an opinion apart from those involved. I'm certain they all know what happened, we'd be wise to give privacy.

I don't think anyone here is going to have real insight into what happened or who (if anyone) is at fault. Strange to assume so many details about people you don't know just to fit a personal narrative.

I saw the photographs and they looked like a bunch of roughnecks to me, both sides.
Perhaps it was just the bodyguards.

I would be heartbroken if either of my AC didn't invite me to their wedding. I can't know what has gone on between Adam Peaty and his mother, but unless there was an excellent reason this action seems very cruel to me.

He is a Christian, and the Bible does say to honour your father and your mother.

There was a suggestion, in one of the tabloids, that the Ramsay's have an issue with the fact that Adam Peaty's mum is of Council House stock.

And I suppose the Ramsay's are of the Nobility, eh?

Breaks my heart to read this I’m a mother and understand the dynamics of a family I too have sons and would be devastated to be left out. I know myself and my husband feel as if we’re getting older and a little more pushed back but I’ve just accepted their lives are getting busier and ours are slowing down more.

My pain never goes away, my heart was broken ten years ago. I have made tentative movements towards her, but to no avail. My door is always open, both to her and the two grandsons I have never seen. I tried my best as a mother, but to no avail it seems, though my son has turned out to be a very nice, kindly man

sadona . I don't think anyone's immune to estrangement. You never think it will happen to you, until it does.

You are not immune to estrangement if you have daughters. I am estranged from my daughter and two grandchildren.

I don’t like the picking over of celebrity estrangements, because how can we, or the media, possibly know what has happened in reality? The media select random bits of information, hearsay, and lies, and use them to sensationalise, just to make up a story which may or may not be the truth, if there ever is one truth, which I doubt. The public swallows whatever they choose to believe.

Allsorts

Both cases it was boys mothers estranged. Doubly hard when in the public eye I would think. I remember one of the Charleton brothers, having words with his mother because she commented on her new DIL hat at the wedding. He never spoke to her again. Vile.

I understood that the MIL didn't approve of the DIL (we hear quite a bit of MIL/DIL issues on Gransnet), and the husband stuck by his wife (laudable). His brother defended the mother's position, so the brothers, who were always very different personalities, became even more deeply entrenched.
Bobby Charlton didn't speak to his mother for the last 4 years of her life, according to the biographies

Celebrities are people, and as such will suffer the same problems the wider population might experience. There are however two types of the famous. Those who live relatively private lives and those who put every aspect of both theirs and their children's lives from the moment they're born into the public domain.

Enter the Beckhams, the ultimate exponents of that. When have they ever given their offspring any privacy whatsoever? Every move, every perceived mistake magnified and commented on. Maybe, they are experiencing something of a backlash with Brooklyn obviously trying to exticate himself from the pre ordained branded life he was born into and yet they keep it going, every slight played out to be picked over. Allegedly, his wife has some beef with D&V and is awaiting for an apology. So naturally that's responded to with the esteemed pair recording themselves dancing to the song "Guilty" highlighting the words "we've nothing to be guilty for". Does it never occur to these two, they are the architects of their own misery? Why are they making this painful episode so public? How is the continual referencing to the spat from the entire Beckham clan so publically going to encourage their son to reconcile, more likely he will dig his heels in deeper now. The Beckenhams alone have elevated the lack of privacy surrounding the family to a whole new level as if it's something to be admired.

crazyH

Why is it, in most cases it’s the boy’s mother, who is estranged?
It makes you think ……

I think often a son's new partner does not like the relationship/bond her new husband has with his mother and finds ways to put distance between them and the son goes along with it. I think the pain of loss for a mother cannot be fully understood unless you have experienced it yourself and maybe the new wife/partner does not know what if being inflicted.
I am sure that is not always the reason but it is common.

The Beckham family have put themselves in the spotlight for ever so hard lines if not what they like now but they might also think 'no publicity is bad publicity' ?

Estrangement is as you say nanna bad enough in private, having it played out in public must be a nightmare.

There was a post about this when Adam Peaty's Mum did not receive an invitation to the hen do and the wedding.
The photos from the hen do showed a group of very slim, well heeled ladies of various ages all dressed up to the nines with long hair and posh nails. The pictures I have seen of Adam's Mum show a larger lady who dresses possibly for comfort, not style. The reason given for her absence was that she wouldn't fit in. I fully appreciate that we have no idea what goes on within families but I can't help feeling very sorry for his Mum. Just because she doesn't conform to an image she is cut adrift. I find that cruel in the extreme. Adam Peaty is a born again Christian apparently. I don't see much Christian kindness here.

So public, it must be a nightmare for them . Bad enough in private.

I cannot see how it is voyeurism to comment on estrangement, unless it has happened to you no one knows how bad it is, whether rich or poor. Poor King Lear said it all really. Sally, you will find it easier to cope with as time passes but that feeling of betrayal and insecurity as our world has been turned upside down is challenging to put it mildly, it takes time to value yourself again, come on Estrangement thread for support, we understand.

We can only guess at what has happened in these people's lives. I'm sure we all know how easy it is for misunderstandings to occur and things can quickly escalate. Unfortunately, when you marry you don't just acquire a spouse, you become part of another family and all the problems that can ensue.