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Sallywally1 Sat 27-Dec-25 19:50:35

I have no opinion on the Beckhams but feel for their estrangement from their son. The wedding today of Gordon ramsey’s daughter is another one. The grooms mother was not invited to the wedding. She said’i feel as though they have ripped my heart out’. I know how she feels

sodapop Tue 20-Jan-26 16:00:00

Good post Terribull I think all the points you make are spot on.
I am sick of seeing all this crap rubbish about them in the media.

TerriBull Tue 20-Jan-26 14:51:45

Family dynamics are often complicated and I suppose this is why the Beckham debacle has resonated. Every situation is different though. Sometimes reading about family schisms particularly as regards to the various testaments of the offspring, it's hard to believe they were parented by the same person. I think that was the case with the daughters of Enid Blyton. I perceive Brooklyn's gripes are not the same as Harry's, comparisons have been made because they both have an American wife who is a few years their senior.

I've never really understood why the Beckhams are viewed as national treasures, I think they're ok up to a point apart from the way they've shoved their children into the limelight relentlessly. In that I think they're just the same as the worst of the talentless, the reality people, Kardashians, so called influencers, Katie Price et. al. We all know it's a way of building and extending the brand. Children are sucked in and they can't make an informed choice as to how that may impact on them. That's the responsibility of the parents to ensure their own fame doesn't adversely impact on their children. Clearly it has with Brooklyn as he said all of that has given him extreme anxiety. That's wholly attributable to his parents.

Over the top showcase weddings can often be a source of falling out even amongst mere mortals. It does seem there has been a lot of she said/she said. Only the people who were there will know.

I think the Beckhams need to go away and accept they've certainly played their part in the breakdown of this relationship. It would be a good thing if they didn't launch their daughter who is still school age into the dubious world of "influencing" as allegedly there's a make up brand in the offing, what else? it won't be books. She has already been enabled to dabble in online make up tuition videos Full on "mom" managers don't seem to have any compunction as to making their daughters lives all about trading on their looks.

Fallingstar Tue 20-Jan-26 14:28:09

Smileless2012

Well he must have agreed unless she was holding a gun to his head.

Perhaps he is keeping that accusation for later. But as I said weddings of the rich and wealthy are planned meticulously by a wedding planner who would run every detail by the couple. And if this wasn’t in the plan Brooklyn had the option as you say to walk away and dance with his wife instead.
Is just so silly.

Smileless2012 Tue 20-Jan-26 14:22:59

Well he must have agreed unless she was holding a gun to his head.

Fallingstar Tue 20-Jan-26 14:22:07

Curlywhirly

I read a few months ago that Victoria had the first dance with Brooklyn at the wedding. So this is not new news. If true, I can't imagine what she was thinking; what mother would expect to have the first dance with her son at his wedding? This alone would be a recipe for disaster for a sucessful relationship between MIL and DIL. I only hope it isn't true.

I read that several times, apparently it was announced that the most beautiful woman at the wedding would have the first dance with Brooklyn adding it would be a dance with his mother. Strange. Traditionally the first dance is with the bride and she is announced as the most beautiful woman at the wedding. But I imagine the wedding was planned exhaustively and both Brooklyn and his then fiancé would know the exact sequence of events. Maybe they did but now things have gone pear shaped they have shaped that narrative to support their growing list of discontents. People invariably do.
Certainly that young man has had every possible privilege thanks to his parents wealth, similar to Harry, and perhaps should count his blessings rather than his rather churlish complaints.
My guess is that both Brooklyn and his wife are still very young and rather immature.

Curlywhirly Tue 20-Jan-26 14:07:29

I read a few months ago that Victoria had the first dance with Brooklyn at the wedding. So this is not new news. If true, I can't imagine what she was thinking; what mother would expect to have the first dance with her son at his wedding? This alone would be a recipe for disaster for a sucessful relationship between MIL and DIL. I only hope it isn't true.

Kate1949 Tue 20-Jan-26 13:58:09

It's ridiculous. Mind you, here I am joining in!

Smileless2012 Tue 20-Jan-26 13:57:32

I agree Judy. If they wanted to make Brooklyn look bad and there's no reason to think they do, they couldn't do any better than he's done himself.

TerriBull Tue 20-Jan-26 13:40:23

Kate1949

A 'showbiz' reporter said on TV today 'I know lots of people, including me, couldn't sleep last night after reading this'. She was serious.

A diversion from the "Orange Peril", even the serious newspapers are running the story.

Judy54 Tue 20-Jan-26 13:34:31

The best thing that Victoria and David Beckham can do is maintain a dignified silence just as the King has done regarding Prince Harry. Washing your dirt linen in public is never a great thing to do.

Kate1949 Tue 20-Jan-26 13:30:48

A 'showbiz' reporter said on TV today 'I know lots of people, including me, couldn't sleep last night after reading this'. She was serious.

keepingquiet Tue 20-Jan-26 13:07:57

eazybee

Does anyone care about Brooklyn Beckham's marriage?
I wonder what makes him think they do?

I agree. Why are people so interested in any of these people at all?

Smileless2012 Tue 20-Jan-26 13:01:08

That's what I read too Madgran. Perhaps if Brooklyn wants to discredit his mother, he'd be better off sticking to the truth.

He really is like Harry isn't he.

Madgran77 Tue 20-Jan-26 12:53:20

For his mother to offer to make the brides dress and pull out at the last minute is cruel

This completely contradicts statements by Nicola's wedding planner etc at the time re her meetings with the eventual designer up to a year before the wedding. I find it hard to take anything printed as fact, to be honest!

Best thing is shut up and get any "supporters" to shut up, and just get on with their own lives.

eazybee Tue 20-Jan-26 12:52:20

Does anyone care about Brooklyn Beckham's marriage?
I wonder what makes him think they do?

Kate1949 Tue 20-Jan-26 12:46:45

I never liked David Beckham after his nasty, foul mouthed rant about other celebrities getting honours and him not getting his knighthood at that point. His wife has apparently got everything anyone could wish for and looks thoroughly miserable.

Smileless2012 Tue 20-Jan-26 12:40:46

Yes REKA the children, not just Brooklyn and I don't think his parents can be blamed for him being mocked by the media.

REKA Tue 20-Jan-26 12:35:52

True, Smileless2012, but the difference being is he had no choice. And the children were thrust into the limelight as soon as they were born. He says he was an anxious child and it must have been so difficult living that life. Yes, money is wonderful to have. Fabulous cars, homes, yachts etc etc. But there is a downside.

Brand Beckham want publicity. They thrive on it. This is obviously not the type of publicity they want.

Brooklyn has had terrible press coverage over the years. Constantly being mocked for his attempts at cookery, photography, modelling etc etc. I think he's just snapped.

Smileless2012 Tue 20-Jan-26 12:35:38

His in laws wealth far exceeds his parents Marg so while he's married, I can't see he'll need to support himself.

Marg75 Tue 20-Jan-26 12:29:33

Does anyone know where Brooklyn gets his money from, has he got a career of any sort? Does he support himself? Also when celebrities marry other celebrities it does quite often but not always fall apart, he is certainly burning his boats there and may well need his family in the future.

Smileless2012 Tue 20-Jan-26 12:23:15

I agree Oreo. He complains about much of his life being under the spotlight, but has no problem shining that spotlight on his parents to criticise them to the world.

His mother inappropriately dancing with him at his wedding!!! If he's man enough to get married he should have been man enough to walk off the dance floor if there's any truth in it.

a weak man just like Harry and just like Harry he's done himself no favours with his public criticism of his parents.

Oreo Tue 20-Jan-26 12:14:40

It’s very likely that they don’t really care for each other but a son shouldn’t tell lies about his own Mother.Her other sons are behind her and not their brother.
If I were the Beckhams I would tell Brooklyn that he knows where they are if he wants to contact them and get on and enjoy life with their other sons and daughter.He may eventually come to his senses or not, like Prince Harry.

Casdon Tue 20-Jan-26 12:11:34

We will never know, and there isn’t one truth, just the perceptions of those involved translated into a story sensational enough to grip the public. I think going to the press, in whatever shape or form, is the kiss of death to reconciliation. Without ammunition there’s nothing for them to speculate about.

Oreo Tue 20-Jan-26 12:10:47

It could well be that the DIL doesn’t get on with Victoria through jealousy you know Newatthis

Oreo Tue 20-Jan-26 12:08:58

Brooklyn Beckham has gone too far in my view and ‘his truth’ reminds me of the tripe that Prince Harry came out with, in other words very far from the truth.
Saying that his Mother danced inappropriately with him at his wedding amongst other things! I sense his wife is behind all this egging him on and suggesting all sorts of things.Bet that Brooklyn is a weak man just like Harry, with a strong willed wife.