Estrangement for celebrities

I am not sure you can believe everything that you read but it would seem that Victoria doesn't get on with her daughter-in-law. Whether there is any truth in this I don't know but if this is so then I can understand why there is estrangement. My mother-in-law had an issue with me born out of jealousy from the moment we announced our engagement (she was fine before!). Visiting their home became more and more difficult as I would get the blame for everything - son not visiting more frequently (even though at the time because of his job, we lived overseas) etc etc. In the end it was my husband who made the decision to visit even less frequently even though it is not what I wanted as I wanted our children to get to know their grandparents. I do sympathise with anyone going through estrangement, it must be so difficult.

I always admired Lenny Henry and Dawn French, both famous in their own right, but never a photo or a line of publicity or information about the daughter they adopted.

I think going no contact especially if the parent isn’t told what the causes are, is one of the cruelest things ever to do, however in this case I think he has done the right thing, he has been very clear about a number of things that has upset him recently and they all sound valid and sound like the tip of the iceberg

For his mother to offer to make the brides dress and pull out at the last minute is cruel, likewise to push in and have the first dance with Brooklyn is not only inappropriate but gives a huge message (Get out the way it’s MY son)
I think in my opinion Victoria Beckham has a mental health problem including an eating disorders, She has to be in control

I would imagine all the children have had a very hard time in the glare of publicity A year or so ago there was all sorts of stories about David s relationship with Harper being inappropiate wether it’s was just a newspaper hack or not it must be awful to live constantly in this kind of glare

Brooklyn has made it very clear what has gone wrong, and I think he is wise to go his own way and leave the circus that is his parents lives.

I should add I ve never admired the Beckhams so never followed any stories about them but you can’t really miss this can you ?

*is neither here nor there

Allsorts

BlessedArt, no one knows everything about anyone. I hardly think Brooklyn was bombarded with e mails and messages as that would be made very public. The one estranging holds all the cards, it takes time for those dumped to take it in, that their child is indifferent to them but it will in tine and their pain is as great as anyone else's. In their case it's all so public...

What we hardly think and do think it neither here nor there. I’ve known most people in my village most of my life and I’d never presume to have the inside story on any family rifts that aren’t directly my own, no matter who puts “their side” of the story out. Closed doors and all.

There are always two sides to a story.

Have never like the Beckhams but after reading Brooklyn's statement I actually feel for him, of course there will be another side to the story but what he has said only endorses what I thought about them.

Smileless2012

Just get on with your life Brooklyn and let your parents get on with theirs.

Best way!

All in all they, The Beckhams, are a prime example of how not to bring up children in the glare of publicity and that can be done there are plenty of high profile people who keep their children's lives private.

I agree, but it IS quite a difficult line to tread the line successfully when the glare of publicity is the parents' actual JOB so to speak. The lines get blurred as to when they're off duty or not, and so the default is to pursue the celebrity stance all the time. It is misguided.

I'm probably not explaining myself well here, but if, in the past, you've seen the Beckhams at an event like a children's party or a school function, they don't always search the limelight for their own children. They were quite normal. My take on it, is that it all accelerated as time went by until VB especially found it too difficult not to.

I'm not surprised how all of this has rebounded on the Beckhams they have been utterly shameless in the exploitation of their children in their pursuit of the brand. When have they ever given them any privacy? Brooklyn has talked about suffering crippling anxiety growing up, it's not surprising really. It's not always a smooth transition between childhood and adulthood, many are still finding their way, experimenting with different paths. Every move he made was under the public limelight, scrutinised and at times subject to ridicule, such as dropping out of college, that's really not uncommon, but for him it was magnified with the inevitable "he can't stick at anything" As for the foolish parents securing a book deal when he had a passing interest in photography during his teen years with a top publisher, plain for all to see, utter idiotic nepotism opening up their son to extreme mockery for their amateur nature. His statement is full of rage and angst, how they, the children are constantly under pressure to "instagram" their lives in "performative social media posts family events and inauthentic relationships" to preserve their own facade The products of two of the most pushy parents of our time who have given their children everything apart from letting them grow up in a normal environment away from the public gaze.

It's all very well to say that this is his wife manipulating the situation. Parents have to accept the inevitable, that when a son or daughter marries then their spouse will become the number one person in their life, quite possibly she has given him the strength, as he says to become his own person.

All in all they, The Beckhams, are a prime example of how not to bring up children in the glare of publicity and that can be done there are plenty of high profile people who keep their children's lives private.

Just get on with your life Brooklyn and let your parents get on with theirs.

I too hope Brooklyn and his new family will be fine now he has gotten that statement of his chest... however there seems to be some recollections varying, to me , it comes across as the statement was written by his wife.
Time will tell.

Hopefully, Brooklyn can get some peace and quiet now. Some previous posters wondered if his estrangement was due to being in the public eye constantly. Such a shame when money and image are paramount.

Allsorts

I have just read the reason Brooklyn distanced from his parents. It makes sense now why he did it. The Beckhams are first and foremost brand Beckham. He's happy with Nicola and he should be left alone now to continue his life in New York now he has put the record straight. Do not see any way back now. It made me examine myself and if I had inadvertently been out of order in any way to cause my estrangement. I am the opposite of the Beckhams but I cannot think of anything I might have done but who knows how she views things.

Was coming here to say the same. A lot of what he said in his statement makes sense. I wish him and his wife a peaceful existence. Good on him for choosing peace and his own mental health

I have just read the reason Brooklyn distanced from his parents. It makes sense now why he did it. The Beckhams are first and foremost brand Beckham. He's happy with Nicola and he should be left alone now to continue his life in New York now he has put the record straight. Do not see any way back now. It made me examine myself and if I had inadvertently been out of order in any way to cause my estrangement. I am the opposite of the Beckhams but I cannot think of anything I might have done but who knows how she views things.

The one estranging holds all the cards, it takes time for those dumped to take it in, that their child is indifferent to them but it will in tine and their pain is as great as anyone else's. In their case it's all so public...

Unfortunately that's what happens when you go to the papers, make it public and comment on your sons wedding, your daughter as a bridesmaid and daughter in law.
And get family members making comments and airing dirty laundry.

SORES

Allira

PoppyBlue

I only know all that because of the stories she's sold to the papers. Like I also said, the Ramsey's aren't much better.

Do you know them personally?

Do tell!!

Allira, Poppy doesn’t need to tell, when Ramsey was all over
the news years ago suing his father in law, that was a scandal
at the time (this is from memory)
and
criticised for his nepo daughter Tilly riding on his coatails
(a little twist)
further back throwing AA Gill and Joan Collins out of
la Tante Clair,
but,
he is a mercurial, charismatic chef and man, who reveres his own Mum and
Angela Hartnett holds him in high esteem, so he is forgiven

He was very kind to my DD too 🙂

^further back throwing AA Gill and Joan Collins out of
la Tante Clair^
I missed that! I just thought it was his public persona and he might be a pussy cat in real life.

Allira

PoppyBlue

I only know all that because of the stories she's sold to the papers. Like I also said, the Ramsey's aren't much better.

Do you know them personally?

Do tell!!

Allira, Poppy doesn’t need to tell, when Ramsey was all over
the news years ago suing his father in law, that was a scandal
at the time (this is from memory)
and
criticised for his nepo daughter Tilly riding on his coatails
(a little twist)
further back throwing AA Gill and Joan Collins out of
la Tante Clair,
but,
he is a mercurial, charismatic chef and man, who reveres his own Mum and
Angela Hartnett holds him in high esteem, so he is forgiven

That doesn't surprise me SORES.

crazyH

Why is it, in most cases it’s the boy’s mother, who is estranged?
It makes you think ……

Mumsnet is never bashful about giving the ‘other side’ to this phenomenon

being 99% the aggrieved DiL telling the tale

no one knows everything about anyone precisely Allsorts and yet that doesn't seem to apply to posters here on GN when someone's talking about their own estrangement, and they're being harshly judged and criticised because assumptions are being made.

BlessedArt, no one knows everything about anyone. I hardly think Brooklyn was bombarded with e mails and messages as that would be made very public. The one estranging holds all the cards, it takes time for those dumped to take it in, that their child is indifferent to them but it will in tine and their pain is as great as anyone else's. In their case it's all so public...

We can’t possibly know what phone calls, texts, or emails were or were not sent that one might have asked to cease. Not unless someone here has access to the Beckhams communications of course. Somehow I doubt that.

Allsorts I agree.
Some of these solicitors representing such people are greedy for the money too, whereas someone with a modicum of ethics might advise them to try a reconciliation first.

I hardly think ticking a tweet is harassment. A solicitor, a dreadful thing to do to his parents to humiliate abd show tg3m his hate. . I do think Brooklyn is very weak and his wife formidable and unfortunately wants to be his one and only at the expense of everyone else. It is very hard but the parents need to cease any contact. Give the couple what they want, indifference, the marriage won’t last, eventually Brooklyn will find he has a mind of his own. No doubt the young couple will have a baby, so Nicola will get worse.

stillawipp

The media have, yes, but they themselves have made no public statements or put anything on Instagram etc, as far as I know…

A little naive I think, how else does the information 'leak' out. Social media is the life blood of so called celebrities.