Estrangement for celebrities

We don’t know what, if anything, these people have done to upset or alienate their children.
I was engaged to a nice man, but my mother did not like him and hated his parents - I never knew why. She was so rude to them that I would not have had her at the wedding.
I never had to make that decision as I met someone else and broke off the engagement. We are still married 54 years later.

PoppyBlue - the ‘cape’ Holly was wearing was to conceal the dress. It is part of the magazine deal - no pictures of the dress allowed before they publish theirs.
All part of the sponsorship. It seems a strange way to live doesn’t it?

Next thing will be about the divorce or separation of so called celebs.

Different classes of people from different sides of the coin, don’t always mix well.

We shall see.

The thing is those of us that read all sorts of newspapers including the tabloids, have been privy to every detail about this affair, and as one who has read up about it, all I can say is the son and Ms Ramsay have behaved absolutely disgracefully to his mother..Starting with - not inviting his mother to the hen do…not liking the outfit his mum bought for the wedding and offering to take her out to get something else..How embarrassing for her…I could go on….

I wouldn’t let a child of mine behave like that to his/her future in laws.

I only know all that because of the stories she's sold to the papers. Like I also said, the Ramsey's aren't much better.

Grams2five

I assume as I do in all estrangement’s that one way or the other there are deep rooted issues within the family. I personally don’t believe estrangement’s happen in vacuum , nor do I believe they happen for no reason and out of the blue. I do think that human beings tend to see and hear only what they want to thought and thus we hear about the lost trivial reasons for estrangement and no reasons at all. Celebrities aren’t immune from these factors and in fact may have more of them to deal with then most given the world they live in of constant scrutiny and zero private space in which to work on the usual family discrepancies

I quite agree.

People choose not to reflect on existing deep issues, they prefer to blame anyone apart from themself. Thus those estranged blame "the others".

PoppyBlue

They were invited.
Then the thing happened with the mom wanting to wear cream, they said it wasn’t appropriate and offered to take her shopping for an outfit which didn't happen then something about her not being invited to the hen do or couldn't afford where the bride had chosen.

Then the brother kicked off about not being invited on the stag do and threatened Adam and was arrested for harassment. Adam had to be escorted off the plane by armed security because he was going to 'meet him off the plane', obviously then was uninvited.

THEN the mom said she wouldn’t go if the brother couldn't go. Then she sold stories and was told she was no longer invited, then HER sister made comments on Holly's Instagram which made it to the papers..and I think the mom and aunt sold stories to the papers on their wedding day including the text she sent him when he was about to walk down the aisle.

It's been all over papers since 2024!

It's hard to comment, it sounds like an episode of Eastenders, saying that, the ramsey side aren't much better.

it’s hard to comment
But you made a pretty good fist of it in the above post.
Well done for trying, though.

I too feel estranged by my middle daughter😢💔 it’s so painful
Life is so short
I don’t want her crying on my grave when she couldn’t talk to me when I’m alive
No crocodile tears?

On the whole I do like the Beckhams but I think they tried too hard to enforce the Beckham family "brand" on the newly engaged couple rather than leaving them to define their new role as a couple. They might have at least preserved the relationship on good terms otherwise.

People are weird these days, all this estrangement of close family cam happen so easily, shows they've never reallt valued their family and only needed to have the slightest wrongdoing or even a perceived wrongdoing to cut ties. What a bunch of losers! Adam Peaty is no Christian and Beckham boy is an ugly spoiled brat. The Beckhams have the love of their other children, hope that continues.

Estrangement is painful for everyone Celebrity or not. And very sad.
I don't understand the use of social media and the press though. It can hardly be helpful in building bridges.

Grams2five

I assume as I do in all estrangement’s that one way or the other there are deep rooted issues within the family. I personally don’t believe estrangement’s happen in vacuum , nor do I believe they happen for no reason and out of the blue. I do think that human beings tend to see and hear only what they want to thought and thus we hear about the lost trivial reasons for estrangement and no reasons at all. Celebrities aren’t immune from these factors and in fact may have more of them to deal with then most given the world they live in of constant scrutiny and zero private space in which to work on the usual family discrepancies

I would tend to agree with this

I know celebrities spend a lot of time in the public eye but that doesn't mean we are entitled to know anything about them.

It's a bit unfair though that they can use their platforms to push their own narrative when needed and force others to respond publicly or be the subject of unkind gossip.

I let them keep their own doorsteps clean and worry about mine.

No one truly knows what goes on in other people’s families. So much projection on this thread, but I suppose this is what trauma does. It can make us overplay parallels in our minds and convince us that the back stories we invent for these strangers and others are true. The only truth is that whether celebs or not, all families have problems. I don’t understand the idea of pretending to be sure we know who is “at fault” when we don’t even know these people.

Read somewhere that his mother had been extremely unkind to him in the past.

Whoops sorry, pressed too soon.
I've been down a few celeb rabbit holes over the last few months such as this one due to the bizarre twists and turns.

www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/adam-peaty-brother-arrested-holly-ramsay-wedding-family-feud-b1258066.html

Agree, bridesmaids dresses were hideous as was the cape thing the bride was wearing.

I wouldn't say very young but I'll take it!
I'm not a new account, posted many times. P

To digress a little, I thought the bridesmaids dresses and those worn by the brides mother and Victoria Beckham were hideous. All designed by her in a shiny material. Red for the bridesmaids and green for the others in a nod to Christmas colours. I suppose the fashionistas will be loving them.

A breast feeding grandmother that’s interesting, now I m wondering are you a very young grandmother or an older mum, good luck either way
( or maybe neither just being lighthearted don’t hang draw and quarter me )

* I don't know where Poppyblue got her inside information from butit is the first I have heard of it.*

It's amazing how many rabbit holes and news articles you read when you're breast feeding at stupid o'clock. It's all out there, just Google it.

I can't sleep again. Know you shouldn't go on to an i pad in the middle of the night but I cannot focus on reading as mind us racing.
Looked at the news before coming on here and saw headlines, Gordon Ramsey speech at that tacky wildly expensive wedding , how his wife Tanya would be Adams best mom. Really! How insensitive and vindictive, doesn't that show his true character and the families values... Adam was bought up by his mother and father, who helped and encouraged him to follow his dreams now they are surplus to requirements, not good enough. I don't know where Poppyblue got her inside information from butit is the first I have heard of it.I would not be part of the Beckham and Ramsey circus for anything and would want out. One son wants to be part of that suffocating brood, another son wants out of it. They should be allowed to live the life they choose but couldn't each son have handled it quietly out of respect for their parent, couldn't those clans have not made it all about them and let the world and his wife know how ungrateful their boys were. I cannot see how this can ever be be resolved everyone has shown exactly what they are like.

MayBee70

All I can think of is how much his parents must have done to help him achieve his sporting goals .

This is why we shouldn’t judge. I look at him and think of how much pressure he y have grown up with , how much pushing etc for their sporting goals. You just never know

I assume as I do in all estrangement’s that one way or the other there are deep rooted issues within the family. I personally don’t believe estrangement’s happen in vacuum , nor do I believe they happen for no reason and out of the blue. I do think that human beings tend to see and hear only what they want to thought and thus we hear about the lost trivial reasons for estrangement and no reasons at all. Celebrities aren’t immune from these factors and in fact may have more of them to deal with then most given the world they live in of constant scrutiny and zero private space in which to work on the usual family discrepancies

From the little footage I saw today all I can say is that these people have no class. The mother was better off out of the debacle I think.