Estrangement for celebrities

Victora seem so obsessed about image and control, I think you are right Bluebell she has mental health issues.

I feel sorry for Brooklyn, not the way he’s handled things, but I think his life has been overpowering for him
It’s well documented that he was a child without much confidence, his football coaches, teachers etc have said he was a nervous child, imagine being a bit introverted and growing up in that invasive publicity bubble. the other children may fare better.
I do think Victoria has a mental health problem and I think it’s her leading the publicity stunts David just seems to plod around agreeing with her.
Brooklyn seems to have failed at everything he’s tried his confidence must be very low. I hope he can find something to be interested in and get away from the vitriolic glare of publicity
Makes our ordinary exsistance seems very attractive

In my opinion celebs should not use their children to promote themselves or a brand like Brand Beckham. These children had no choice. I would rather have had my upbringing than theirs where we were taught values and you work. It's all image and extravagence, money doesn't buy happiness. Both Nicola and Brooklyn are the result of their upbringing..over indulged and spoilt. That's just my opinion.
I feel for any parent that are estranged who still love their children and in this case so publicly humiliated. We don't know everything that,occurred behind the scenes and cannot judge.

I wonder if that will be before or after he's blamed them for his marriage failing DL .

stillawipp

I totally agree Norah - all must be suffering hugely, & my heart really does go out to them.
DiamondLily how sad to write a young man off as 'talentless' and 'living off others' , unless you know him personally, of course

Well, he tried singing and failed. He tried playing football and failed. He tried being a chef (by making a bacon sandwich) and got laughed at.

If he wasn’t the son of who he is, Nicola Peltz wouldn’t have looked at him.

Her billionaire father is apparantly now not happy at her choice of spouse.

He’s done nothing other than been a Nepo baby living off of his parents, and now he’s kept by his wife’s father.🤷‍♀️

And when the marriage fails, as it sadly will, he will go grovelling home to the financial safety net of his parents. 🙄

I looked at the article on what happened at the wedding in The Mail today. The wedding sounds a nightmare of ego’s
clashing. Not a happy day. The best thing for Victoria and David to do is nothing, If they make a statement to the press just say they do not want to comment about their much loved son and don’t. I feel so sorry for how they must be feeling but they have each other and their three other children who must be upset too. I could never have hurt my parent I do know that,

I can see how it could be construed as controlling Norah, but it could also be construed as protection and not just of the 'brand' but the children too which IMO would be the reasons behind the decision.

I guess it may be a case of them thinking they were protecting him, but him thinking it was control…

Norah

Smileless2012

So many times here on GN we've discussed coercive control Norah that I'm surprised you've missed it.

Very insulting for anyone who has experienced it to be referred to as a mindless poodle which by the way is an oxymoron as poodles are regarded as one of the most intelligent breed of dog.

Poodles are regarded as intelligent. Apologies to poodles. I should've said our Parson Terriers. I doubt these people are mindless as our daft dogs.

Does the Patent not seem over the top controlling?

Smileless2012

So many times here on GN we've discussed coercive control Norah that I'm surprised you've missed it.

Very insulting for anyone who has experienced it to be referred to as a mindless poodle which by the way is an oxymoron as poodles are regarded as one of the most intelligent breed of dog.

Poodles are regarded as intelligent. Apologies to poodles. I should've said our Parson Terriers. I doubt these people are mindless as our daft dogs.

If you knew anything about coercive control Norah you would know that the victim is usually the last one to realise what's actually happening, which is why other close relationships especially family ones are severed.

Your last paragraph is spot on Allira.

I don't know stillawipp. It's a possibility and a common factor when a once close AC/parent relationship changes significantly and/or the parents become estranged when the AC becomes involved with third party, often a husband or wife.

Believing that his parents are controlling may explain Brooklyn's decision to estrange, but doesn't explain why he's chosen to try to publicly discredit and humiliate his parents, particularly his mother and why there's so much criticism of the way he says his wife's been treated.

Haha, don’t you love predictive text?!

Oh no, Norah, I was referring to Smileless2012

proles no idea where that came from.
poodles !

Smileless2012

So many times here on GN we've discussed coercive control Norah that I'm surprised you've missed it.

Very insulting for anyone who has experienced it to be referred to as a mindless poodle which by the way is an oxymoron as poodles are regarded as one of the most intelligent breed of dog.

Very insulting for anyone who has experienced it to be referred to as a mindless poodle which by the way is an oxymoron as poodles are regarded as one of the most intelligent breed of dog.
It is insulting both to the people concerned and in fact to proles.
There are many cross breeds at the moment where poodles are one of the mixes and yes, they are highly intelligent.

People who are coercively controlled are not mindless, they may be empathetic, perhaps gentle people and the controller gradually grooms them. Isolating them from their own families, making them dependent, is a common theme.

stillawipp

Why have you automatically jumped to coercive control though?! How do you know?!

Me?

I have no idea why people jump to coercive control. We simply don't know who may or may not be controlling. Patent does seem controlling.

Why have you automatically jumped to coercive control though?! How do you know?!

Smileless2012

So many times here on GN we've discussed coercive control Norah that I'm surprised you've missed it.

Very insulting for anyone who has experienced it to be referred to as a mindless poodle which by the way is an oxymoron as poodles are regarded as one of the most intelligent breed of dog.

I've read of coercive control on GN. Seems a common complaint. Perhaps, as cc is an offence, women should report cc to the police.

So many times here on GN we've discussed coercive control Norah that I'm surprised you've missed it.

Very insulting for anyone who has experienced it to be referred to as a mindless poodle which by the way is an oxymoron as poodles are regarded as one of the most intelligent breed of dog.

Smileless2012

I think his wife maybe behind the behaviour or at the very least contributed to it.

Bit insulting. A mindless poodle following his wife?

Surely he has his own thoughts and reasons.

Yes, maybe
but, again, there'll be a reason for her behaviour too - we just don't know, do we?

I think his wife maybe behind the behaviour or at the very least contributed to it.

Well we'll have to agree to disagree on that Smileless2012 - I would prefer to look behind the behaviour rather than just the behaviour itself

IMO the Beckham's are doing the right thing by saying and doing nothing.

As for having empathy for all, I always have empathy for anyone whose been the victim of abuse whatever form that took, but I do not have empathy for anyone who seeks to publicly destroy their parents reputations.

If estrangement for Brooklyn was the best course of action there was no need for him to have done what he's done this week. He can get on with his life and needs to leave his parents, siblings and wider family to get on with theirs.

Who knows what affect his behaviour has had on his siblings. It was IMO a selfish self serving act which looks to have backfired on him and if it has, I have no empathy.

Yes indeed - I’m sure there are regrets all round this week