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Today on BBC - does anyone know the mum?

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Stellar Tue 10-Mar-26 08:57:53

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y2l0glqeyo

There is an article on BBC today which resonates with me as I was falsely accused of abuse of my AC despite the fact that I was a victim of childhood abuse myself.

I feel I went out of my way to ensure was never repeated with my AC, but there IS a disturbing trend of 'no family contact' amongst the younger generation fuelled by - in my opinion - 'anti' social media, where the bar for 'abuse' has really been lowered. One thing I was accused of was 'watering down orange juice'. I did this because I learned that giving concentrated orange juice can cause spikes in blood sugar which could eventually lead to type 2 diabetes.

If anyone might be on here that knows the mum I would love to reach out to her. I know exactly what she must be going through and this week in particular - approaching Mother's Day - is particularly difficult.

I know this is a long shot but you never know...

DiamondLily Sun 15-Mar-26 11:59:50

Shelflife

Watering down orange juice - for goodness sake !!! Does your AC think that is abuse !? You were probably correct orange juice definitely raises blood sugar.

Jeez, I watered down orange juice with the kids and GCโ€™s.๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ

So, Iโ€™m now an abuser?

Who knew? ๐Ÿ˜‚

Seriously, itโ€™s alarming that younger people take advice from others, like this. ๐Ÿ™„

Smileless2012 Sun 15-Mar-26 09:04:50

I agree Iam and you're right valdavi that the BBC should have stated where he gained his 'qualifications'.

Iam64 Sun 15-Mar-26 07:39:48

Thereโ€™s a huge difference between on line courses and those accredited and taught in person at universities.

valdavi Sat 14-Mar-26 20:58:52

Lathyrus3

Just had to do a little Googling. His qualifications appear to come from

MMS World Wide Institute based in New York.

Dr Cherie will guide you through all the steps you need to become an accredited Coach.

I do think the BBC should have done this and perhaps added that the diplomas were from a distance learning centre.

Iam64 Sat 14-Mar-26 19:40:47

I agree InRainbows. Look at the so called grooming gang victims and the Epstein files

InRainbows Sat 14-Mar-26 18:57:51

It's always going to be difficult for survivors of any kind of abuse when there are those who will lie about it. It's a rare thing to lie about but not rare enough to do no damage and allow doubt. I think we have to take the stories at face value unless we see inconsistencies or evidence of wrongdoing on their part though because it is so very dangerous for victims if we don't.

Iam64 Sat 14-Mar-26 18:46:52

InRainbows, yes, some abusive parents are adept at lying and blaming their victims. The same goes for some adult children, even a small number of adolescents. Itโ€™s usually clear when allegations are made there is truth in them but the occasional fantasist can cause havoc. Parental alienation therapistsโ€ฆโ€ฆ

InRainbows Sat 14-Mar-26 17:51:36

I am not sure we can say much against the young man in the article. It's very difficult to judge when an abusive person, parent or otherwise, is never going to tell the truth. Sometimes there are clues because of differences in what an abusive person seems acceptable but they all lie to cover it up. Very hard to unravel.

Norah Tue 10-Mar-26 20:06:59

Sago The young man himself is an author and qualified counsellor, it is probably unfair to refer to him as an influencer. He has Instagram/Facebook/TikTok accounts so is easily contactable.

Obviously there are two sides to every story

Always two sides, I agree.

Orange juice bit is a daft excuse -- or maybe I abuse?

I think mum is well shot of him.

Iam64 Tue 10-Mar-26 18:16:54

Sago, Iโ€™m so sorry you had such A tough time. Many abusive parents are ace manipulators

Iam64 Tue 10-Mar-26 18:15:07

Ahh, I did wonder if the now deleted poster had a familiar take on estrangement

Allira Tue 10-Mar-26 18:10:58

I donโ€™t feel it helps to make your living by blaming your mum for everything

It is very immature, Iam64.

Smileless2012 Tue 10-Mar-26 17:51:11

Looks like it was a previously banned poster BlueBelle. Someone just keeps coming back and may well have broken their own record for deletions.

BlueBelle Tue 10-Mar-26 17:27:50

I ve only just read this thread and I m now really curious as to how someone can have so many posts deleted, 13 posts in one thread, is that a record ?

Smileless2012 Tue 10-Mar-26 16:59:31

hmm I'd be looking for more than a Diploma in Psychology and CBT in an 'expert' on estrangement and I agree Iam that it isn't helpful to make a living out of blaming your mum for everything, even if it does pay the bills.

Sago Tue 10-Mar-26 16:46:43

I wish as a young adult there had been as much awareness around toxicity, NPD, BPDO and abuse as there is now.

Had I been able to talk openly without shame and to be believed would have made a huge difference to me.

I lived in a house were everyone hated me, I was permanently frightened and I really thought it was all my fault.

When a GP flagged up my weight, my Mother told him I was to spoilt and a picky eater,
Nowadays further action would be taken.

If this young man is drawing on his own experience to create awareness and help people then great.

Yes there will be attention seekers who will fabricate stories but I reckon he will have given hope and guidance to many.

Iam64 Tue 10-Mar-26 15:36:25

The man referred to in the OP is thirty, has four children and his academic qualifications are described as Diploma in Psychology and CBT.

He set himself up as an expert on estrangement. Iโ€™d be looking for a therapist with better recognised qualifications and wider knowledge base. The article refers to him as an influencer.

One of my extended family had what can be described as a difficult childhood. Abandoned by dad, mum with huge difficulties, lots of upheavals, broken attachments and more. They are now a joiner aged thirty, recently married to long term partner. Recently when reflecting on childhood, they commented - I used to wonder why they (parents) did these things. Growing older means I recognise they loved me, did the best they could.

Not a therapist but a young person maturing into a stable, sensible, compassionate adult. I donโ€™t feel it helps to make your living by blaming your mum for everything

Doodledog Tue 10-Mar-26 15:27:03

Lathyrus3

๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’

For Cossy.

I really donโ€™t know what else to post ๐Ÿ˜ฑ๐Ÿ™

I don't know what to say either Cossy, but have some flowers from me too.

What an appalling post.

Rosie51 Tue 10-Mar-26 15:18:34

Oh the naivety, banned posters come back under a new name........and I didn't say you were a previously banned poster only that I'd seen this style of posting before in posters that had been banned.
What's that old saying "if the cap fits....."

Lathyrus3 Tue 10-Mar-26 15:16:06

๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’

For Cossy.

I really donโ€™t know what else to post ๐Ÿ˜ฑ๐Ÿ™

NoNews Tue 10-Mar-26 15:08:34

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Rosie51 Tue 10-Mar-26 14:58:01

NoNews

Rosie51

What an absolutely vile post NoNews! You should be ashamed of yourself, but in your certainty of your own perfection you won't have the necessary awareness.

Everything I said is true. Especially anxiety + depression, those rarely materialize out of thin air. Just do the research.

But I can see how my words can be considered vile to an ignoramus.

I've seen this style of posting before in posters that have been banned..............

NoNews Tue 10-Mar-26 14:54:45

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Rosie51 Tue 10-Mar-26 14:54:06

You may want to report the post cossy but I hope enough people read it to make their own judgement on what appears to be a very new poster.

NoNews Tue 10-Mar-26 14:52:54

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