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Support and friendship for those whose lives have been affected by estrangement.

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Smileless2012 Thu 07-May-26 08:38:58

For those of us who've been living with estrangement for sometime and in many cases for years, we know how important this thread is.

The friendships we have made are our constant companions as we continue our journeys through our lives without the ones we have lost due to estrangement.

We have learned from one another that our estrangements don't define us and our desire to keep this thread going is as much for those who may not have posted before and maybe at the beginning of their estrangement, as it is for those of us who've been posting for sometime.

Our dear friend Babs posted the following several months ago and because it encapsulates so perfectly what we strive to achieve, I wrote it down for the OP of the next thread.

"We give advice in a calm and collected manner because we are removed from this storm, but when you are in it you cling to anything you think will get through to your child".

Thank you Babs for your wise and insightful words.

stillawipp Wed 22-Jul-26 18:31:44

She’s been admitted for overnight observation so that’s a relief and will hopefully get her sorted out

stillawipp Wed 22-Jul-26 18:03:08

Hi everyone - you’re all so kind, unfortunately she took a dip last night and was clearly in pain/discomfort as she was constantly crying out, so we ended up taking her to the emergency vet at 1am. She is a Labrador, robust and as tough as old boots usually, so it was heartbreaking to hear her so distressed. They gave her more painkillers & sent her home but we have had to take her back twice today, for the same thing. She’s there now with my husband (I had to go a funeral which we should have both been at). No results yet, & really no idea what’s going on….

Smileless2012 Wed 22-Jul-26 11:40:20

Morning everyone.

Hope your dog is OK stillawipp; have you had the results yet?

Ziggy spent his first night well until 4.00 am, in his bed in his crate next to my side of the bed Yogin. I really don't want him sleeping on the bed as I've never done that with our other dogs.

Unlike Poppy who was admittedly at least a month older when we got her, he doesn't go back down after doing a wee so I was up until 5.00 amshock. He went down again but only until 6.00 am (oh no) but Mr. S. got up about 10 minutes later and I went back to bed. Thank goodness we're both retired!!!

He's doing very well using the toilet training pads with just the occasional accident bless him so all in all, it's going pretty well.

We left the door onto the decking open earlier to see if he'd venture outside, Mr. S. having secured all the fencing so he can't get through, but he only managed 'half in/half out'. I'm not pushing it because I'd rather he did it in his own time but need him to become confident venturing out come the weekend, we'll take him just outside the door.

He's so tiny, even the decking must seem a huge open space for such a little boy.

They do seem to be 'over keen' when it comes to prescribing statins don't they hmm. I know of quite a few who stopped taking them because of side effects. Mr. S. tried two or three different ones/dosage before being OK with them.

How sad Whiff. His dog would have been a great comfort and companion for him as he recovered from surgery. He's probably feeling the loss more intensely because he's been unwell.

I've cancelled my cousin coming for the weekend. We were due to go for the day to Whitby for the day for 'Goth' weekend but it's about a two hour drive from here so we'd have to leave by 8.00 am and I'm just too tired to spend a day walking around and then the drive back. Plus providing meals while she's here for a couple of days.

Hope she understands but it is what it is.

Yoginimeisje Wed 22-Jul-26 09:35:08

Yes, best of luck for your little dog Stillawipp

How is yours doing Smiles?

I remember when I first got Lilly, first night in the kitchen in her nice cosy bed, got up about 3 times to her crying, same second night, third night in her bed next to mine, few days later in bed with me and never left grin. So, when I got Joey, straight on the bed with me, wouldn't have it any other way now, I'd feel lost if he wasn't there.

Yoginimeisje Wed 22-Jul-26 09:26:49

I went to the doctors yesterday, just about my toe problem, I asked the doctor [different one] to clarify my cholesterol readings, and she told me my readings are fine at 5 and always have been! I could see the chart she was looking at.

I checked after some on here said they had never heard of such a high reading and from asking around, same response, also going online to see that 5 is good, also that age makes no deference. In fact, people from about 20-45 have the highest reading because of their lifestyles at that age, whereas, as you get older the readings drop, same reason.

Good job I didn't take those statins; I didn't need them.
Should I report the doctor that told me my reading was 12 and should be 10 for my age group, also saying a big NO when I asked if I could lower my reading with food change.
How many other patients has he done this to, freighting!

They must be getting rewarded for each prescribed statin.

Allsorts Wed 22-Jul-26 07:25:13

Smiles, your little dog is gorgeous, love his colour, very tiny yet will keep poppy alert.
Hope all will be good for your dog Stillawhip.

Whiff Wed 22-Jul-26 06:29:18

sillawipp hope your dog is recovering well from the surgery. When do you get the results? She is your family and better than some human members . Fingers and toes crossed the results are ok.

I am on the BHF group for heart problems and a man only in his 50's is struggling to come to terms with recovering from surgery and his dog died . He can't understand why he is feeling depressed told him he has had to come to terms with his health but he is grieving for his dog who was family. He said he didn't realise he was grieving. Had few conversations with him last one said he is letting himself feel the grief and its helping him. I did point out I am not a pet owner but go by friends who's pets have died especially dogs. As they need to go out everyday. He is thinking about getting another dog once feeling better.

It thanks to all of you who have and had pets died I told him how you feel as not something I have experienced.

This group doesn't just help eachother but I have learnt things I have not experienced to try and help others. 🌼

stillawipp Sun 19-Jul-26 12:40:12

Thank you so much ❤️

Smileless2012 Sun 19-Jul-26 12:31:04

Bless her, it's upsetting isn't it because they don't understand what's happened and we can't explain.

Fingers crossed that the results are OK flowers

stillawipp Sun 19-Jul-26 12:23:29

Smileless2012

How worrying for you stillawippflowers. I hope the surgery goes well and please let us know how it goes. I never expected Poppy to grieve TBH, not to the extent she has.

Now she's spending all her time running away from little Ziggy which at least will take her mind off little Piphmm.

I'm hoping Mr. S. will be able to post a pic later.

All went well with the surgery..now just waiting for test results. I hate the post-op bit, when they are so unsettled but she has finally lain down and gone to sleep this morning. At 12 years old, I was just relieved that she came through the surgery ok 🥵

Yoginimeisje Sat 18-Jul-26 07:55:28

So sweet Smiles. Well done on uploading pic xx

Spring20 Fri 17-Jul-26 16:35:17

He’s lovely ❤️

Smileless2012 Thu 16-Jul-26 17:05:15

Thanks everyone, he is rather sweet isn't he.

Had his first appointment at the vets with a nurse yesterday and she said he's the smallest puppy she's seen apart from new born's.

He weighed in at less than one kg and we think he's grown since Saturday!!!

He's the same colour as Poppy when she was a puppy Whiff, but she's lighter now. He's very good, using the trainer pads, missing occasionally but does go to the right place most of the time.

Gets me up at about 1.00 and 3.00 to 4.00 am and goes down after a 5 minute cuddle waking up about 6.00 am which isn't bad but I am definitely not a morning person. It will get easier when I don't have to get up during the night but he's so cute, he's worth it.

stillawipp Thu 16-Jul-26 16:12:01

Gorgeous puppy - good luck with her!

Bridey Thu 16-Jul-26 16:06:30

Awh Smiles, he is tooo cute for words!!

Whiff Thu 16-Jul-26 13:54:33

He is so cute . Love Ziggy's colour . He with keep you all on your toes . So glad you had him .

agnurse Thu 16-Jul-26 13:37:32

PUPPY!!!

(Pardon my fangirling. I like doggos and he is adorable.)

Madgran77 Thu 16-Jul-26 13:23:06

Smileless2012

Oops, try again

SO cute!

Smileless2012 Thu 16-Jul-26 10:45:36

Hooray smile.

Smileless2012 Thu 16-Jul-26 10:43:29

Oops, try again

Smileless2012 Thu 16-Jul-26 10:37:53

Say hello to Ziggy everyone

stillawipp Tue 14-Jul-26 16:46:12

Thank you so much, Smileless2012 - that’s very kind. We have lost two dogs now, and the remaining ones definitely grieved - we were shocked too at how much. But they soon move forward again and I’m sure Poppy & Ziggy will become close friends very soon

Smileless2012 Tue 14-Jul-26 16:35:14

How worrying for you stillawippflowers. I hope the surgery goes well and please let us know how it goes. I never expected Poppy to grieve TBH, not to the extent she has.

Now she's spending all her time running away from little Ziggy which at least will take her mind off little Piphmm.

I'm hoping Mr. S. will be able to post a pic later.

stillawipp Tue 14-Jul-26 12:36:17

Thank you Whiff , yes we are keeping everything crossed 🤞🏼

Whiff Tue 14-Jul-26 12:26:21

stillawipp hope everything goes well for your dogs surgery. Glad you have a clever vet. Fingers and toes for you and family. As your dog is your family to pets are better family than some humans . 🌹