We do exist, but after this why bother?

However, I really object to virtue signallers telling others what to think and how to live
Hear hear, Lilyflower

I think the spending on clothes is very unpleasant.
I'm not sure if you mean the actual spending or the media obsession with it Lily65
I suppose one could say that they are supporting the British fashion industry (well, I hope the clothes are British).

Harry is a privileged member of the upper classes deflecting criticism by aiming it at another group in society, in this case the older generation who made the prosperity, stability and security that we all enjoy now. He also had a lecture for others about living in a ‘green’ way shortly before spending thousands on a private helicopter flight.

Not that I care. He seems to be a nice chap. However, I really object to virtue signallers telling others what to think and how to live. Harry’s grandmother, with her gnomic silence on every issue, seems to have the right idea.

My only complaint, which takes us back to the original speech is that if you are going to talk the talk then you need to be seen to be walking the walk - and the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, do an awful lot of virtue-signalling talk. I can see no sign that they do any walking at all - especially when there is a helicopter or private jet ready for them.

I think the spending on clothes is very unpleasant.

the majority watched tv , have thoughts about the person in the news. ‘She is beautiful, he is handsome etc. when i see Harry and Megan together I am reminded of a puppy eager to please his mistress , hence my comment about a lead
Watching TV doesn’t give anyone the right to make unsubstantiated and mean-spirited comments about other people, whoever they are.
Perhaps you should keep your thoughts to yourself anniebach as expressing them often says more about you than anyone else.

When Kate wears the same outfit twice she is slated for not supporting the British fashion industry.

Harry is currently enthralled by Meghan and she is using him for her own agenda. It is not a healthy and equal relationship. I am not convinced by her righteousness. He is a means to an end and got her where she wanted to be.

She has no understanding of how royalty have managed to keep their position. Meghan also didn’t realise that they are a way down the pecking order and no matter who she tramples underfoot, that isn’t going to change. Sadly for Harry I fear it is going to end in tears!

End of nothing annelp. why should it be just cos you said it?

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I love the Gransnet forum - it can be fiery, great!

janeainsworth the majority watched tv , have thoughts about the person in the news. ‘She is beautiful, he is handsome etc. when i see Harry and Megan together I am reminded of a puppy eager to please his mistress , hence my comment about a lead .

I've skipped a lot of this. Yes he was wrong. End of.

“All she[Meghan] needs when they are together is a lead for him[Harry].”

That is a spiteful thing to say about anyone anniebach and the fact that you have no personal knowledge of either of them makes it even worse in my opinion.

Well after all the virtue signalling talk about looking after the environment etc etc, we now hear that he is using helicopters for journeys that could be done just as well by train and that his wife is hiring, or borrowing private jets for journeys across the Atlantic.

Wouldn't be nice if they did some things that really stand out. We are all being exhorted to wear clothes 30 times before we ditch them. Supposing the 2 Duchesses were seen to wear their public event clothes 30 times, what a lot of money they would save and what a message it would send. Princess Anne manages it, but then she always did put her actions where her mouth is.

What about hearing about all the energy saving equipment and insulation going into Prince Harry's new home in Windsor and new technologies he is including.

Yes favourably, but judging by what you see in the media, so am I.

She is junior as was Fergie who was married to 4th in line to the throne , Harry is 6th

Yep. Favourably.

doing. not ding.

Then you are judging her Gonegirl yes?

I'm not sure how "junior" she is. Her and Harry, and the other, two seem to be playing leading roles. Ding it well too.

No, I don't know her personally, but somehow I'm convinced she's a good person. I really like what I see of her in the media.

janeainsworth nothing spiteful, just my opinion of a woman who is a junior member of the royal family.

I didn’t say Harry should think his grandmother more important than his wife.

To Harry, Meghan is more important than the Queen.
So she should be. She’s his wife, not his Grandma.
anniebach you should be ashamed of your spiteful comments.

Gonegirl do you know her personally?

How do you know she thinks she is more important than the queen?