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The Golden Years, what's your take?

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Spangler Wed 29-Jul-20 15:37:24

There's a crude poem about getting old, I won't print it all but if you want to see it just Google the last two lines:
"The Golden Years Have Come At Last.
The Golden Years Can Kiss My **!
When I was 19, I remember coming out of a dance venue as the heavens opened up. As luck would have it I saw a taxi with the "For Hire" sign lit up. I hailed the cab, and as it pulled over and I made a dash through the rain, a little old lady got in the way. We did one of those street dances, I went left, so did she. I went right, so did she. To my eternal shame I muttered: "Doddering old fogey." She heard me. A crooked arthritic index finger was raised. "You'll be old," she screeched. "Not as old as you," I replied and just laughed as I jumped into the taxi.

Down through the decades that voice has rattled around my head whenever some age related medical complaint has risen. And now I am old, or so the distance between my birth and now dictates.

How do I deal with it, much the same way as when I was young really. We struck lucky in that we bought a house in Hackney in East London when it was a district you only lived in because you either had to, as in a council house, or you couldn't afford to buy a property elsewhere. Then somehow Hackney became a hotspot, it became gentrified, desirable. When we sold up we made a tidy profit. Who would have thought?

Today, we enjoy a wonderful social life with a wide circle of friends, a great mix of generations and although we don't have any children, our Godchildren who have all grown up and whose weddings we attended have all produced their own children. It's like surrogate Grandchildren.

My wife and I have known each other for over 54 years, been married for 52 of them. Now retired, she indulges her life long passion of making her own clothes, and others, mostly mine, but recently she made a friend's wedding dress. She has a bespoke cabin that I treated her to, a collection of vintage sewing machines adorn the cabin walls and she has a couple of modern machines and an overlocker. She loses herself in her cabin.

My hobbies are the old vintage car that I have and a collection of records that go back to the pre-war swing era, I have a jukebox to play them on. My other hobby is work. I get some flak about that, but as my wife said, "If he's happy working, let him do it. There's not many who can say that they get paid for indulging in their hobby." I only work two shifts a week, job sharing with someone whose military pension left him with too much month at the end of his money.

We have been life long ballroom dancers and it was dancing that got us into the social circle that we so enjoy. The lockdown, or house arrest as I prefer to call it, has curtailed this year's events and that's how I managed to get on line. Never had the time nor the inclination previously. Well not exactly, I have lurked on this site for quite a long time. Reading about other's grandchildren and other facets of life is fascinating.

It's curious to me, I certainly don't want to live forever, on the other hand, I love life, not ready to pop off just yet. But this getting old malarky does have a few pitfalls, like the hip replacement that I had a while back. That, coupled with the house arrest, is going to make tripping the light fantastic something of a challenge when our release date comes. But in the meantime the everyday posts here keep me motivated.

annep1 Sat 01-Aug-20 23:28:08

I forgot to say we have had many great holidays in the 20+ years we've been together and although we rarely travel now have wonderful memories to share.

annep1 Sat 01-Aug-20 23:24:07

Spangler
Sorry maybe I'm a bit slow but I don't get the point you're making with the story about the poor little old lady and the voice rattling in your head.

Anyway my take on the Golden Years.
I'm not very active now and have many days when I feel bad and can do little. So I make the most of the good days, like many on here I'm sure. Someone upthread said "If you keep fit you can have a good golden age for a long time". Yes that is true. But not everyone can.
For me life is being content and appreciating what you can do.
My husband plays guitar with friends. I paint with friends and we enjoy walks and doing crosswords and jigsaws together on the good days. And we both love reading. We are very fortunate to have a mobile home on a lovely site in a beautiful area. But even without that we would be very content. And nothing we enjoy costs very much but we get great pleasure from treating our children and gc.
For me that's the good thing about being older, being content and knowing what is important.

Peardrop50 Sat 01-Aug-20 22:00:35

Great story Spangler, you've obviously worked hard, enjoyed life, made the most of everything, been lucky and have an appreciation of life.
I'm another who met the right person at a young age, have a good life, great family, good close friends, happy home, we have lived in other countries but enjoy the UK the best. Have been blessed with four sons, alas now only have two daughters in law but friends with all the mums of our lovely grandchildren. Have coped with some ups and downs together, remain mostly on the same page. Always thought I was very sociable but actually am enjoying our peaceful time just the two of us in lock down.
I am well aware that not everyone is as lucky but like the opportunity to count my blessings and share that happiness with others who feel the same.

Spangler Sat 01-Aug-20 21:20:52

MawB

Actually Spangler I too am old school

Post script: The spellchecker is having heebie jeebies over the spelling of rooves. It's roofs. No it's not, I'm old school and the plural of roof is rooves

And it’s roofs - not like hoof/hooves.
That’s OK. Don’t mention it.

I know better than to argue with one so knowledgeable.

MawB Sat 01-Aug-20 20:34:17

Actually Spangler I too am old school

Post script: The spellchecker is having heebie jeebies over the spelling of rooves. It's roofs. No it's not, I'm old school and the plural of roof is rooves

And it’s roofs - not like hoof/hooves.
That’s OK. Don’t mention it.

Spangler Sat 01-Aug-20 17:37:56

Urmstongran Sat 01-Aug-20 16:54:01
Oh kitty I’m not so forgiving ... Or consider that other people might not be in a good place when they post not that they are being unnecessarily negative

In my opinion if someone is feeling grumpy, negative or just wants to suck the joy out of a pleasant thread - why not step away from the keyboard ⁉️

The difficulty that we have with forums is that we can only communicate with the written word. In life, when engaging with someone else, we have body language, eye contact, nuance, hand movements and countless gestures.

I'm with you Urmstongran, leave alone threads that bore you, I leave the political threads alone because politics incites me so easily, but I do think that Kitty made a valid point.

When you perceive a post about your own entry to be rude it's so easy to rise to the retaliatory position and defend your corner. Posting a copy of that book was childish on my part. It really doesn't matter whether the person making the comment that caused my heckles to rise is having a bad hair day or not. Retaliation only causes spats, so I shall endeavour to ignore perceived insults in future.

BladeAnnie Sat 01-Aug-20 17:28:25

I've really enjoyed this post - thank you all for sharing. I'm in my late 50s and had LOTS of ups and downs but I'd hate anyone to think I was boasting or moaning so I'll just say life is generally good. Although I have health problems and have bad days I'm more at peace with myself now than when I was younger

Orangerose Sat 01-Aug-20 17:12:42

I agree don’t read the thread, and Esspee you have nothing to apologise for. Good for you. Sounds like you had an amazing trip!

Urmstongran Sat 01-Aug-20 16:54:01

Oh kitty I’m not so forgiving ... Or consider that other people might not be in a good place when they post not that they are being unnecessarily negative

In my opinion if someone is feeling grumpy, negative or just wants to suck the joy out of a pleasant thread - why not step away from the keyboard ⁉️

It’s a choice you know.

To Engage. Or not.

Why should we feel we always have to pander to the lowest common denominator?

Spangler Sat 01-Aug-20 16:38:42

Esspee Sat 01-Aug-20 16:18:26
There's a famous actor of the 1940's whose real name is Spangler. I share his stage name.
Are you going to tell us what Spangler means to you?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Taylor_(actor)

annep1 Sat 01-Aug-20 16:26:47
Spangler I don't get the connection either. ?
Sorry Anne, have I been rather ambiguous.

Glorybee Sat 01-Aug-20 16:34:23

I agree that Spangler’s comments to nannan2 were unnecessary and he has acknowledged that, but Esspee, please don’t feel you have to justify anything you’ve done or spent! Good for you and all power to your swimming against the ageist agenda!

Esspee Sat 01-Aug-20 16:28:13

Rosina, love the poem. Did you write it?

annep1 Sat 01-Aug-20 16:26:47

Spangler I don't get the connection either. ?

annep1 Sat 01-Aug-20 16:24:41

A very nice post Kittylester.

Esspee Sat 01-Aug-20 16:18:26

Hi Spangler Yes indeed, my name on here is simply my initials. As I wrote on a previous thread I have no imagination and do so admire those who can come up with witty names.
My 9 year old granddaughter came up with the name *Kitty Purry ” for their new cat. I was so envious of her imagination.

Are you going to tell us what Spangler means to you?

Esspee Sat 01-Aug-20 16:06:44

Nannan2. I am so sorry to have upset you. It never occurred to me that anyone might be offended by me having spent January in the Caribbean. If it helps I only go there to be with my wonderful extended in-law family. None of us are getting any younger so I now visit them as often as I can even though my husband died 16 years ago.
The flight cost (originally) about £450. That would get you 5nights B&B where I am in Scotland.
The Egypt trip was connected to my university archaeology studies.
I was intending to illustrate that being old (in my 70s) doesn’t necessarily mean conforming to the ageist agenda.

kittylester Sat 01-Aug-20 14:01:54

Or consider that other people might not be in a good place when they post not that they are being unnecessarily negative.

I have no knowledge of that posters personal situation but nor have you, I assume.

Spangler Sat 01-Aug-20 13:58:18

kittylester

*spangler*, you do seem very fortunate which makes your comments to nannan2 unnecessary in my view.

Kitty, I take your point, the best way of dealing with negative posts is to ignore them. I shouldn't have needed reminding so thanks for doing so.

MerylStreep Sat 01-Aug-20 10:43:32

Spangler That is beautiful ?

Orangerose Sat 01-Aug-20 09:53:12

Oh it’s gorgeous Spangler. We have two Rowe AMI ones. One from the sixties and one from the seventies. My husband restores them as a hobby. Yours is beautiful- I love the Wurlitzer. Beautifully evocative of another time.

Callistemon Sat 01-Aug-20 09:42:53

Thank you annep1.

kittylester Sat 01-Aug-20 09:37:14

spangler, you do seem very fortunate which makes your comments to nannan2 unnecessary in my view.

Spangler Sat 01-Aug-20 09:12:21

Orangerose

I have and a collection of records that go back to the pre-war swing era, I have a jukebox to play them on.

Spangler I love jukeboxes What kind do you have?

You do realise that I shall that I shall get a reprimand for boasting, don't you? It's called a Wurlitzer, 1015, also known as 'One More Time.' It is quite old in that it operates on valves, like an old wireless. Old it may be, but it is exquisite, and Nannan2, it was bequeathed to me. How lucky is that?

Spangler Sat 01-Aug-20 09:06:37

Nannan2

Sorry spangler, but i dont grasp what your tale about being mean to a lil old lady& nicking her taxi has to do with what then inflates into a loooong story about you crowing about what you own/& what you have achieved????

Tell you what Nannan2, you write out a list of do's and don'ts, tell me what I can and can't do.

While you are doing that I shall be reading, then when I have finished my book, you can have a read.

annep1 Fri 31-Jul-20 22:39:56

I missed that post Callistemon. So sorry to hear about your friend.