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Do older people need to have global warming explained to them?

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M0nica Sat 22-Apr-23 14:29:38

Today the BBC published an item on their news site entitled
Earth Day: How to talk to your parents about climate change
www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-65339214

in it teenagers explain the concepts of how to lead an environmental life to their parents. The topics covered are: eating less meat, flying less, and avoiding waste in food, shopping and everything else.

Things that have been discussed again and again on GN by many parents old enough to be these teenagers grandparents.

Why does the BBC think that older people are all global warming unaware and do not know or understand that we how to change our lives to meet future challenges?

From my experience we are probably more aware and doing more to reduce energy consumption (too poor, to do anything else but cut back on heating), eat more thoughtfully and generally consume less than most under 30s.

I note on the same day, one of the founders of Extinction Rebellion is seen in a supermarket buying fruit and veg flown in from Africa and Asia and wrapped in plastic and she then drove home in a diesel car.www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11998895/EXCLUSIVE-XR-admit-founder-Gail-Bradbrook-hypocrite-buying-fruit-wrapped-plastic.html?ico=related-replace Other papers had it, but most had pay walls.

leeds22 Wed 26-Apr-23 12:35:16

I hope none of my GCs try to explain global climate change to me. I might ask them when they are going to refuse to go on long haul flights twice a year (or more) with Mummy and Daddy. They think we are poor/mean because we drive a small car and have down sized to a small house. I could go on....

Mollygo Wed 26-Apr-23 12:15:30

Me too. I’ll report it as well!

volver3 Wed 26-Apr-23 11:22:45

Reported. I've had enough.

Mollygo Wed 26-Apr-23 11:10:11

volver3

Oh not this again...

They'd die out. We'd stop making them. We don't have to keep on artificially creating animals that are not a result of nature.

This argument about "oh will they all run free" is just so ridiculous.

As are some of your arguments. But do keep posting them. 🤣🤣🤣

volver3 Wed 26-Apr-23 11:08:31

Oh not this again...

They'd die out. We'd stop making them. We don't have to keep on artificially creating animals that are not a result of nature.

This argument about "oh will they all run free" is just so ridiculous.

Callistemon21 Wed 26-Apr-23 11:05:10

If everyone on the planet changes to a vegetarian diet, what would happen to all the animals which are now produced for food?

Presumably they would be freed, allowed to roam and reproduce and therefore produce even more methane?

Mollygo Wed 26-Apr-23 11:01:35

volver3

Are you trying to save the planet?

Oh, the neighbours wouldn't like it.

Ah, fair enough...

So you’d have gone ahead would you V3?
🤣🤣🤣

Callistemon21 Wed 26-Apr-23 10:42:06

nanna8

Including vegetarians in my experience. I like cabbage but not when it has been through someone’s digestive system.

That did make me laugh, nanna8
I was going to cook sprouts for dinner this evening then remembered I have to go to a meeting later.

Back to the serious business.

volver3 Wed 26-Apr-23 10:34:16

Are you trying to save the planet?

Oh, the neighbours wouldn't like it.

Ah, fair enough...

Mollygo Wed 26-Apr-23 10:32:41

GSM
Exactly why we won’t do it!
I’m not convinced that the potential vibrations wouldn’t damage the house if we had one attached to the roof as was also an option. It was suggested by one of our zealous, what are you doing to save the planet? teenage friends. They haven’t got round to considering the neighbours yet.

Mollygo Wed 26-Apr-23 10:23:00

I like charity shop buys. I’ve even ventured onto Vinted, but before I come over all virtuous about it, my DD reminded me that if nobody bought the new stuff to start with, business would fold, jobs would be lost, pushing more people into poverty and there’d be nothing in the charity shops or on Vinted to buy.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 26-Apr-23 10:22:16

I wouldn’t like it either if I was one of your neighbours. Ugly things. Your neighbours would derive no benefit from it, but would have to look at it.

Mollygo Wed 26-Apr-23 10:14:37

We decided to have a wind tree in our garden. The saving in electricity would have been amazing, especially as we live at the top of a hill. Mentioning it to our neighbours, the complaints from young and old about the size, the interrupted views and potential damage to their well-being! Do you think we should go ahead?

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 26-Apr-23 09:12:00

We have a 4x4 because it can cope with what the weather throws at us in the sticks. I also have a powerful sports car for which I apologise to nobody.

volver3 Wed 26-Apr-23 08:28:48

Don't tell them LinkyPinky.

They'll come over all affronted then laugh at you.

M0nica Wed 26-Apr-23 08:08:39

So what do you suggest we do LinkyPinky and what are you doing?

LinkyPinky Wed 26-Apr-23 07:50:34

* we drive 4x4s, we need space and frankly like the height/ safety aspect.*
This is why we’re all doomed. This and flying. And tidy gardens. And thinking taking your own shopping bag to a SUPERMARKET is going to make a difference. Or picking up litter.. You’re not getting it people. This is an emergency. We’ve reached tipping point. When the climate goes, which is imminent, you’ll be struggling to survive. We all will. A few thousand poor souls coming here in small boats seeking safety will be nothing compared to the waves of refugees from waterlogged poor countries reaping the rewards of OUR love of foreign holidays and gas-guzzling vehicles. They’ll be angry and desperate and aggressive. And quite rightly so.
But it’s okay. I’m sure you’ll offer them some of your jumble in a reusable bag.

volver3 Wed 26-Apr-23 07:31:17

Apologies.

Gundy Wed 26-Apr-23 06:46:23

V3
For the record - I’m not a man.
😃
USA Gundy

nanna8 Wed 26-Apr-23 05:05:34

Including vegetarians in my experience. I like cabbage but not when it has been through someone’s digestive system.

Mollygo Wed 26-Apr-23 01:47:06

V3
The cows fart methane into the atmosphere and that causes CO2 build up.
🤣🤣🤣

Yes, you’re right. I’ve noticed that all animals that only eat plants tend to pass more methane into the atmosphere.

grannybuy Tue 25-Apr-23 20:04:14

Knowing something is unacceptable, and acting appropriately isn’t always what happens. Schoolchildren are reminded about not dropping litter on a very regular basis, but it doesn’t stop them doing it. Only today, as I passed the local secondary school, I noticed four pupils litter picking after lunchtime. This really shouldn’t be required. It’s sad that for some, using the litter bin is too much to ask. Some adults are no better, of course.

volver3 Tue 25-Apr-23 19:38:21

I do think its a shame that any one thinks they are being "blamed". This thread has reinforced the idea that they young are "blaming" the old when that's not what is going on. Any person who blames the "old" is just as bad as a person who blames the "young" for being careless, and there is a lot of that on here.

The cows fart methane into the atmosphere and that causes CO2 build up. Although apparently the farting isn't as bad as as originally thought. 🫢 Nobody's blaming them, just saying that "this is what happens", isn't blaming anyone or anything . The only things I blame are the governments and vested interests that are avoiding their responsibilities and who won't admit that something needs to be done pdq.

Maremia Tue 25-Apr-23 18:27:19

Janetashbolt, not if every remaining person, in your scenario, kept increasing their fuel consumption.

Janetashbolt Tue 25-Apr-23 18:25:01

There would be no climate problem if we could halve the population, but that can't happen so lets blame old people, meat eaters and cows