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People trying to "help"! And my reaction ....

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Hennahead Tue 30-Jan-24 16:15:37

Hi. Well, I have to admit that I am over 65 and have had Guillain Barre syndrome (complicated) so my legs are slightly impaired. However, I try to look and act as youthful as possible. The syndrome can lead to paralysis and I have worked very hard to build my fitness after this disease.
I am sick of people asking if I can manage (in the bank for example with technology), and getting on a train yesterday a lady asked if I wanted to take her arm!! Godsake I thought I'm not that decrepid. It's not always about mobility, sometimes station staff are amazed I can use an app to buy tickets
Thing is, I know people mean well, so if I snap back I come across as a total bitch but I find it very humiliating and disempowering; insulting even to be treated like an old has been. The other person is then indignant. Thing is I am an intelligent, well educated woman not a person who needs looking after
Have others found this patronising, if caring, attitude at all? And how do you politely deal with it - I know a jokey reply would be good, but I am usually too hurt and angry

Daisydaisydaisy Fri 02-Feb-24 13:50:07

Blooming difficult but you’ll never stop well meaning people offering to help ..,there maybe a day when you do indeed need help …All you can do is change Your attitude and as already said say thank you so much I got with a smile smile

RosesAreRed21 Fri 02-Feb-24 13:43:21

It will be a sad day when people don’t offer to help. Perhaps just say “.thank you but I can manage”

Nannan2 Fri 02-Feb-24 13:39:22

Also is the OP saying that anyone that does need the help (old or not) is an 'old has been'? See, you've to be aware that what you're saying is also insulting or hurting others Hennahead- i too look youthful at 60 (good young- looking genes in our family) but also having osteoarthritis among other things, sometimes i DO need help, sometimes im ok- but if folk kindly offer i say either thank you and accept the help or on a better day i say no im fine but thank you.And as for in the bank well they ask everyone dont they? Theres always a person near the door in our bank whose job is to offer help as people come in, regardless of age or ability.Those who dont need it say 'no thanks' & go do it themselves.No need to be hurt & angry.🤔

MissAdventure Fri 02-Feb-24 13:32:08

I swear at myself, and give myself stern talkings to.
Under my breath.

Goldieoldie15 Fri 02-Feb-24 13:30:45

I always chastise self but really hate it when people stand up and offer their seat. I do appreciate the kindness the courtesy the manners but still just simply hate it. Respond with grace of course and thank profoundly but shiver indignantly but secretly. Love it though when muscular beefcakes take my usually extra heavy cases off the carousel. Obv am a hypocrite but managed to forgive self.

Shazmo24 Fri 02-Feb-24 13:23:47

It amazes me that you could be so rude and overreacting to a bit of kindness. Maybe you need to change the way you react to be offered help as one day you may need it

Sennelier1 Fri 02-Feb-24 13:18:29

Just say - in a nice way and with a smile - no thank you, I can manage. People are just being friendly you know 😊

MissAdventure Fri 02-Feb-24 12:40:12

I think all people like to feel independent, but a stranger can't be expected to know what your individual issues are.
So they may offer help or the wrong kind.
My neighbour once ironed all my tea towels for me. smile

mathiasella Fri 02-Feb-24 12:36:08

Some people still like to feel independent and are only grateful for help when requested.

knspol Fri 02-Feb-24 12:24:28

People offering help and finding themselves snapped at or treated rudely may well think twice about offering help to another person who is in dire need.
I am grateful for any offer of help, it makes me think that the real world isn't as bad as we read about in the newspapers every day. If you don't want/need help a gracious thank you for the offer is all that's needed.

Nannylovesshopping Fri 02-Feb-24 12:19:57

petra

What a shame with all that education you weren’t taught manners.

So with you on that comment! I’m always extremely grateful for any offers of help, travel a lot to London, trains, tubes and buses, it’s mostly young men who carry bags up and down steps for me, I always say thanks very much, you’re mum must be very proud of you, both of us walk off with a smile on our faces.

missdeke Fri 02-Feb-24 12:13:52

If people are 'snappy' when offered help then soon those of us who do need it will find that no one will offer any more for fear of being snubbed.

I have always accepted assistance when offered if I needed it and politely refused if I didn't. Good manners cost nothing.

Farzanah Fri 02-Feb-24 12:05:38

When patronised I usually say I may be old but not thick!

Farzanah Fri 02-Feb-24 12:04:29

MissAdventure 👍 Not having grey hair, if natural, is not a sign of good health, as I can unfortunately testify, neither is “looking young” for that matter.

Quizzer Fri 02-Feb-24 12:03:09

Why do the younger generation (under 50s!) think that all oldies are IT illiterate?
I am a silver haired 75 year old and recently went to a well known shop to but a new laptop. I was treated as if I was a complete idiot by the salesperson.
Having worked in IT in various technical roles, and mildly annoyed by his attitude, I started asked complicate technical questions. He didn’t know the answers and still tried to patronise me. I suggested he asked a manager for the answers but he declined. I left the shop, commenting that I would but me laptop from someone who knew what he was talking about.

Lizzies Fri 02-Feb-24 11:55:39

I am ashamed to say that I reacted in a similar way in the supermarket once. I usually use the self checkout and take my own bags which always need checking by staff before I can start scanning. I usually just wait patiently, say “thank you “ when they are approved and carry on. This time a member of staff that I hadn’t seen before came, approved the bags and then proceeded to try to show me how to scan. I told him that I was fine and that I didn’t need any more help, but he continued to “show “me! I have to admit that I then snapped at him until he went away. Not only do I know how to scan, but I used to work in M&S so I know about the inner workings of self checkout tills.

Willow68 Fri 02-Feb-24 11:50:53

Why so angry, one day you may need help, any of us might, for now you don’t and this is good. Also good you get on with life. Just say, very kind if you, but I’m fine thank you. Offering help
Is not rude and used to be seen as a good thing. How is the helper being patronising?

MissAdventure Fri 02-Feb-24 11:43:28

Callistemon21

No grey yet though 😁

I'm now grey, frizzy, greasy, and with bald patches thrown in, just for good measure.

9228pauline Fri 02-Feb-24 11:39:28

I'm fine with that if they don't say 'bless'.

Cossy Fri 02-Feb-24 11:23:40

I don’t wear make u very often, but I have my shoulder length hair cut and coloured and keep to a good skin care regime and wear what I want! I’m a grandmother but not an old hill Billy granny!

Cossy Fri 02-Feb-24 11:21:54

Oh dear, you do sound like you’re Stalin some days and I honestly believe people are just being kind and think they’re helping. A brief smile and a no thank you will suffice smile

Gwyllt Thu 01-Feb-24 23:15:30

I turned down the offer of help today when my gardener offered to climb up the bank to cut of some brambles.
My reply was that I had to prove to myself that I could and I did. Metal hips working well
I was glad of a bit of help down though

Callistemon21 Thu 01-Feb-24 22:52:26

No grey yet though 😁

petra Thu 01-Feb-24 22:52:04

TreeLover
I don’t think we are being harsh. The OP told us exactly what she thought of people who tried to help her.
She may not have voiced it but she certainly thought it.

Callistemon21 Thu 01-Feb-24 22:51:40

My hair's been short for years - I look like a wild woman if it's longer! Rain, damp, wind, heat, humidity and it does it's own thing.

Sleek bob? Forget it except perhaps for five minutes after struggling with it for half an hour after washing 😁