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Just got congratulated for being able to use my debit card!

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Huia Mon 22-Dec-25 02:04:21

I’m not dementing and as far as I know I look and sound quite normal. I’m sure my middle aged daughters would let me know if I didn’t !
The supermarket checkout woman congratulated me on being able to use my card! ā€œMost old people fumble, so good for youā€. 😳
I said ā€œI’m not oldā€ . Shocks me that we are perceived as so feeble -I’m 80 next month . I manage the club web site -bet she couldn’t do that!

petra Fri 21-Aug-26 21:25:48

Franbern
I too wonder what some of the members here thought of the older people they worked with when they were young.
Other than the other apprentices I had nothing in common ( other than the job) with the women and men I worked with.

Romola Fri 21-Aug-26 21:07:22

DD met me in the hospital after I'd had a cataract operation, because you're not allowed to drive for a few days. I'd been prescribed eye drops and we went to a reception desk where I asked the way to the hospital dispensary. I am 81 but not bent and I do not have a quavery voice. But the woman at the desk did not answer me, she very pointedly spoke to DD to give the directions I had requested.
I was really annoyed and I wish I'd said so. I don't think DD noticed until I mentioned it and then she didn't really understand why I was annoyed.
It's just the way it is now.

CanadianGran Fri 21-Aug-26 20:46:39

I may have sarcastically stated that I can tie my own shoes as well.

Cossy Fri 21-Aug-26 20:32:06

Lathyrus3

What a miserable thread.

All these grumpy old people with their rude reactions to someone who is trying to be pleasant and kind.

I used to be quite puzzled by comments on how much I laugh and smile. Now I see why🤣🤣

grin thanks

mokryna Fri 21-Aug-26 16:58:40

I don’t approve of self service tills. You are doing people out of a job. I am retired and I try to use an a cashier. Companies instal those unmaned machines to make more profit.

I think that for every machine they should pay 3 times the NHS tax equivalent of three employees plus three times unemployment contributions as they are taking the place of three people-work three shifts.
Gransnet people, you should queue for 15 minutes to save the young and not so young jobs.

Franbern Fri 21-Aug-26 16:39:19

I love it when people offer to help me in any way. I am 85 years of age and use a mobility scooter or electric wheelchair. The over-whelming majority of people are so kind and helpful, I always smile and thank them, whether it is when the move aside (often into the road) to allow me to pass them, or to get things down from high shelves or open those difficult large and heavy accessible loo doors for me to enter.

I am very independent, live by myself and am Secretary to our Flat's voluntary Management Company, dealing with Conveyancing Solicitors etc. every time a flat is being sold. Nothing wrong with my brain, but physically I am a bit of a mess. I am computer savvy.

I can far to easily remember (with great embarrassment now) back when our money went decimal and adverts told us to help out old people in the early weeks. I insisted on offering and going shopping with my parents. They were in their sixties and my Dad was still employed and neither of them either then or later had anything wrong with their brains. But to me (a thirty year old), they were 'old' so needed help. They did not.

So how old must we in our eighties appear to those in the twenties or thirties?

In supermarkets and the like, much of the training is in place so that people can be assisted. I am so impressed with the way the Tesco Supermarket cashiers always pack my shopping for me and very appreciative.

Lovetopaint037 Sat 01-Aug-26 11:28:07

I am 85 and have had people tell others that they. know this 85 year old who can do all sorts and has sorted out their problems! I know my way around the iPad and iPhone but that is all. I don’t mind. At least I’m useful.

Flippinheck Sat 01-Aug-26 09:59:39

So patronising!
So what if some elderly people fumble, at least we are still out and about independently. Being congratulated for not fumbling is just incredibly rude. My pet hate is people, of any age, who wait until their shopping has gone through the till before looking for their debit card / cash.
A nurse recently repeatedly called me ā€˜my lovely’ presumably because she couldn’t be bothered to recall my name. I am neither hers nor lovely. She didn’t appreciated me telling her that.
My ability to withstand rudeness (and much else) has markedly diminished with age.

mumofmadboys Fri 31-Jul-26 16:42:05

A friend and I climbed Walla Crag in Keswick and reaching the bottom of Cats gill which is quite steep, these young girls aged about 20 asked whether we had been to the top and said hadn't we done well! We thought we must look old!!

Maggiemaybe Fri 31-Jul-26 13:11:44

Just about everyone I come across is polite and helpful, and if some of that is only because I’m getting on a bit I’ll take it anyway. Yes, the comment was clumsy, but surely meant as a compliment. The assistant probably has come across a lot of fumbling older folk and is speaking from experience. I wouldn’t have made any of the comments suggested on here designed to make her feel bad, and look less kindly on people in our age group in future.

The only time I very nearly bit back was when M & S didn’t have an item I wanted and the assistant said I could get it online if I had someone at home who could help me. I was about 60 at the time grin, but I suppose still well past it to a teenager!

Tuliptree Fri 31-Jul-26 12:26:38

Charley yo be fair, I think the person had probably been trained to ask that question. My guess would be they have to make sure customers understand - if they don’t provide the information, it’s probably breaking some aspect of the banking code and customers could complain. I’ve still got a bank in my town and sometimes when I’m queuing in there I notice bank staff bring incredibly kind and patient with quite frankly old people who are in a real muddle and in need of help.

Tuliptree Fri 31-Jul-26 12:21:24

Shel1951

She's just a Silly woman ,,,,I bet you can work behind the till too , and press buttons just like hergrin

Why do you need to call her silly? She was making conversation, maybe clumsily but so what? It was a transaction at a checkout hardly life impacting. And don’t be so dismissive of checkout workers, not a good look. She’s working, earning money, helping pay for our pensions and WFA

Shel1951 Fri 31-Jul-26 12:10:07

She's just a Silly woman ,,,,I bet you can work behind the till too , and press buttons just like hergrin

Charleygirl5 Fri 31-Jul-26 11:48:16

Being partially sighted and 82, I still have two of my marbles left. I was asked yesterday if I realised if I opened an easy access account that the interest could change. Well I never knew that and none of you had the decency to tell me.

It would appear most of us should stay indoors as we are not very safe especially with money if allowed out. It beggars belief how we're treated.

Humbertbear Thu 30-Jul-26 18:08:09

Dressed up for lunch in the West End and having been to the hairdresser I went to Primark as I was early. I am having to use a walking stick at the moment and the assistant in Primark told me I wouldn’t be able to cope with using the self check out and forcibly escorted me to a cashier.

M0nica Thu 30-Jul-26 14:38:14

One should always accept/decline an offer of help courteously. But, as in the case quoted by the OP. It is very irritating.

Tuliptree Thu 30-Jul-26 10:40:49

M0nica

But ageism is not to do with being offered help when you clearly need it. It is about being offered help when you do not need it , just because you look old.

The OP made that clear. Someone expressed amazement that she could use a debit card. Yes, I realise that some people have a manual disability that causes problem, but that does not just include older people. DD, when she was in her late 30s, badly injured her right arm in a road accident and has a permanent disability in her right arm. She cannot do some things and has to take time doing others and has now been like this for 15 years.

That’s a useful distinction However, I still think if the offer of help is made and meant kindly we should either decline graciously or accept if. I use a mobility scooter as well as bring old and often in the supermarket am given offers of reaching items for me. I’ve lost count of the times I’ve accepted because the person was so kind in how they offered. Once they’ve gone I have to put it back.

M0nica Thu 30-Jul-26 09:11:36

But ageism is not to do with being offered help when you clearly need it. It is about being offered help when you do not need it , just because you look old.

The OP made that clear. Someone expressed amazement that she could use a debit card. Yes, I realise that some people have a manual disability that causes problem, but that does not just include older people. DD, when she was in her late 30s, badly injured her right arm in a road accident and has a permanent disability in her right arm. She cannot do some things and has to take time doing others and has now been like this for 15 years.

petra Wed 29-Jul-26 17:47:23

keepingquiet

What is wrong with accepting help when needed?
I love it when people show their caring side and watch out for me.
Following hand surgery I struggle with opening carrier bags. At the till the other day the check-out assistant asked if I would like her to pack the bag.
I said yes please, and she did.
I didn't feel patronised because I was 'old,' I thanker her for her consideration to me as a person.

Take heart in the fact that there are more of us than there are of them šŸ˜‰
I could take offence several times a week.
I not only have my own deliveries but MrP has some heavy parcels. I take in next door’s delivery. Sometimes very heavy.
Most of the drivers offer to carry them into the porch.
Why you might ask. Because I’m old. And as much as I know I scrub up well ( MissAdventure will vouch for that) šŸ˜‚ I still look like an old woman.
It’s a fact. Get over it.

JenniRen Wed 29-Jul-26 17:26:18

If it happens again, just smile and say that yes, you know how to use a debit card and a credit card because you were part of the team that invented them.

Tuliptree Wed 29-Jul-26 17:17:03

rockgran

I accept help whether I need it or not if it is offered pleasantly. Sometimes it is about making the other person feel comfortable so that they will not be put off helping me or others in future. I'm not old yet (76) but I hope to be one day!grin

This is my philosophy when offered help. I think many situations quoted on here are really inconsequential eg comments on being able to use technology of whatever kind. In fact sometimes ( like the airport example) you can really benefit from being thought of as needing extra help. These sort of interactions are fleeting. What makes me really furious however is medical staff not having the professionalism to ascertain your level of knowledge and acknowledge your lived experience of your particular health issues.

rockgran Wed 29-Jul-26 16:58:05

I accept help whether I need it or not if it is offered pleasantly. Sometimes it is about making the other person feel comfortable so that they will not be put off helping me or others in future. I'm not old yet (76) but I hope to be one day!grin

Witzend Wed 29-Jul-26 16:10:53

CabbageWars13

Maybe you should be grateful she didn't pat you on the head and gush "good girl!"

(She didn't pat you on the head, did she?)

I hope she didn’t add, ā€˜Ah, bless!’
If anyone ever says that to me, I’m afraid I won’t be responsible for my actions.

M0nica Wed 29-Jul-26 16:05:47

Oreo

I’m nothing like your age Monica but at lunch out in a pub yesterday the teenage waitress brought me a glass of water saying ā€˜here you are Lovely’ that wouldn’t have happened years ago am sure.Of course to her I was ancient šŸ˜‚

I live somewhere everyone calls everyone else 'my lovely' regardless of age or gender. I nearly found myself doing it the other day

David49 Wed 29-Jul-26 09:11:19

We get a new app on the phone every week these days, my latest came with the new car that talks to the phone. I just handed the phone over to the salesman to set up, it took him 4 tries.