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ABSENT!! Food question

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Bags Thu 10-May-12 12:02:11

Why is meat browned before being put into a stew?

Bags Thu 10-May-12 12:07:15

Some of us (annika and I) are wondering. We're not really shouting wink.

Annika Thu 10-May-12 12:17:38

Bags You don't hang about do you wink you got here before me smile

Anagram Thu 10-May-12 12:34:10

In the absence of Absent (!), here's the most likely information I found on the internet:

www.ochef.com/782.htm

Bags Thu 10-May-12 13:24:56

Thanks, anagram. That would explain why my gravy is always so fantastic! I make it from the meat juices that have hit the hot roasting pan. It explains why gravy goes so well with roast meat. It explains why fried meat (e.g. steak) is tasty on its own (especially with a bit of salt added; think Cordelia from ^King Lear^). It explains why adding vegetables and herbs and spices and sauces to casseroles and then, after you've cooked it, letting it sit for a day before you eat it (to let the bacteria that bring out all the lovely flavours start to do their job).

So, I'll carry on as I am doing and be blowed to searing meat!

absentgrana Thu 10-May-12 13:25:42

Browning meat helps to bring out the flavour and also looks attractive. It does not "seal in" the juices as is sometimes suggested. That's about it.

Bags Thu 10-May-12 13:27:41

Browning hardly matters for a stew then, since the meat takes on the colour of the gravy.

absentgrana Thu 10-May-12 13:30:55

It does bring out the flavour of the meat which is important. If meat were just stewed without browning first, it would taste fairly bland even though lots of herbs and other flavourings might have been added.

Anagram Thu 10-May-12 13:33:20

Mmm...that's what I thought, Absent.

Bags Thu 10-May-12 13:41:18

I wonder if making the stew up on the hotplate of the Rayburn does enough. I start with onions and spices, then the meat (so it does get browned a bit) then vegetables, liquid, etc. Once it comes to the boil I shove it in the oven, turn that down to low and walkaway for the rest of the day. Works a treat every time so I must be doing something right. smile

Anagram Thu 10-May-12 13:45:43

Probably, Bags - it's not as though you just pile everything into the pot and shove it in the oven. Is the hotplate very hot?

absentgrana Thu 10-May-12 13:46:25

Bags Clearly, you're doing it all right. The meat just needs browning before simmering not cooking all the way through.

A further thought about colour: you really do need to brown the sausages for cassoulet. They won't take on the colour of the cooking liquid and will look deeply unappetising if just bunged straight into the stew.

jeni Thu 10-May-12 14:29:00

I just throw it all in!

absentgrana Thu 10-May-12 14:34:16

jeni I am a firm believer in what is called "cooking in a bucket" in my family (bless their little hearts).

vegasmags Thu 10-May-12 14:51:34

Delia always browns - little miss perfect, she would, wouldn't she. If I brown the meat, it does make a bit of difference to the finished product, but then I have to clean the top of the cooker, the workshops and the affected bit of kitchen floor to get rid of all the greasy splashes. One of the joys of living alone is that you don't have to bother if you don't feel like it. These days, I bung everything in the pressure cooker, then just let it mature a while in the oven. As long as plenty of red wine goes in (both to the stew and me) it all seems to be fine.

vegasmags Thu 10-May-12 14:52:49

Ooh meant to say worktops! Not been at the wine yet, honest.

absentgrana Thu 10-May-12 18:09:52

vega At one time I was in negotiation about making a tv cookery programme that was to be called "The Messy Kitchen". Sadly (for me, but not necessarily for the general public) it never happened although it would have been nice to make some tv money and also nice to show people who want to know about cooking that you don't have to be cheffy or glamorous.

For the record, turn the heat down or stick a lid on the pan to limit the splashes. I use lots of red wine – isn't it great?

vegasmags Thu 10-May-12 22:11:00

Never thought of the obvious - bunging a lid on - that's the story of my life! What a shame The Messy Kitchen never made it onto our screens. It sounds like my kind of programme.

susiecb Fri 11-May-12 12:20:56

Jamie says dont bother!