Low fibre diet?

Worth it for me - with goat's milk!

Bought some in individual plastic pots the other day. Boxes, tins, pots. All good. The home made kind is also good but you have to get the proportions right. You have to have enough milk in the fridge and it is really not worth the hassle for less than 3 people. And it does not keep like boxed does. Which is quite well.
It is also, officially, very low in fibre.

I ate a whole tin of [obviously] tinned custard a while ago..we brought it back from holiday and it just kept calling to me from the larder. I love tinned custard .

Low fat custard out of a box works for me crimson
Certainly easier to chew...

Supposed to be a lot easier to digest, baked apple isn't it? Trouble is, I like it with lots of cream on .

Even a little batch, they re-heat nicely in the microwave. They are also the ultimate "good for you" dessert

Oh, yes, baked apple, yum.

Sultanas must have some as they are made from grapes, which have skins. I guess a few go a long way though. baked bramley apple, with a few sultanas and a teeny bit of honey. and custard. a british classic. Since i bought a corer i do this much more often.

I just discovered frozen mashed carrot and swede in Tesco's, very easy and LOW FIBRE too!
Also sultanas don't have much - something I have missed. Semolina (goat milk) with sultanas in - yum.

Nelliemoser

Been mulling over this one - how to eat a high cellulose but low roughage diet.
Top nominations: melon, stewed or fresh apple (minus skin or woody bits), any other fruit which has no pips or skin included, soup made from peeled veg of any kind.
I wish there was better terminology.

Thank you Jess

Well it is made of plant cells so it will have a fair amount of cellulose type fibre

Did I hear once that the flesh of tomatoes has a lot of soluble fibre? Not the seds, obviously!

Commercial smoothies I think are filtered. But I am not sure. Something as small as strawberry pips may get blended up. But if it is fruit with bigger stones they would definitely be removed. I have stopped buying them a DH was glugging them by the half pint and they do contain a lot of sugar (which he does not need).
I guess in general peel everything. Remove pips. Shell those broad beans like the Spanish do.(not just the pods the individual shells). Eat younger more tender veg that is less woody.
Don't beat yourself up Allie. It may be nothing to do with previous diet or ibuprofen consumption. It is an imbalance of your immune system in your gut, and I don't think anyone knows what causes it. Just like they don't know what causes arthritis - unwanted inflammation in the joints. etc. The immune system in the gut is incredibly complex and usually manages to keep a delicate balance - reacting to things that are dangerous and ignoring things that are not, including foods and gut bacteria.
I don't know whether people are intolerant of pure cellulose. It is often recommended medically in the form of the dreaded fybogel as a stool softener.
Glad to hear you are a lot better than you were!
Glad you are a fart free zone nelliemoser. Everyone's gut bacteria are a unique blend so 2 people can eat the same meal and one is fine but has to wear a gas mask because the other is not.
Jerusalem Artichokes are the acid test though...

Sorry I didn't get back yesterday!
Jess thanks for coming in here. Yes, I have ulcerative colitis, and quite frustrating it is too. I am still experimenting, but have improved things a lot with diet. Mostly I feel a lot better - I am not doing all the doctors tell me!

All my previous good intentions with granary bread and lots of veg seem to have backfired on me.....however it may be that I took too much ibuprofen last year when I broke my wrist....not proven, though...

Had a booklet on low fibre from a dietitian, but my insides don't seem to agree with all of what it says!
I can eat avocado and also bananas that are still fairly hard, I don't like them sweet/really ripe.
Bags I eat tomatoes and fruit like your mum.
Jess your type 1 is definitely what I must avoid.
Type 2 - wouldn't strawberry smoothie have seeds in it?

I am still planning to grow broad beans again next year but to eat only the little still soft ones, this is what I did with the runners.

jessM Re the gas causing vegetables. I am vegetarian and eat plentiful quantities of beans and pulses, onions and all other veg, without any real problems with gas.

I think that might be because I eat them so regularly I have plenty of the right gut bacteria to deal with them do you have any ideas about this theory?

Next question: so why do some people have a problem with cellulose, since we don't digest it anyway, and if it just absorbs water in the gut and then passes through?

Yes, I have seen that with some seeds. I think it was DD1 who was soaking some seeds prior to trying to sprout them, and I noticed they'd just turned into a jelly-like mass. I forget what she thought they were, alfalfa maybe.

Juicing is a way of extracting the juice and leaving most of the fibre behind - you squash the cells, and leave the cellulose cell wall behind bags.
psyllium is a seed like flax that contains lots of cellulose that swells up in water. if you want to see the effect bags get a packet of cress seeds, and watch what happens when they absorb water. Fascinating to see a layer of jelly stuff appear. You may have noticed this before I think. The psyllium husks are the fibrous outer coating of a seed that swell up like this inside you.

Unless I've misunderstood juicing (LIKELY!). I was thinking of blending. Duh.
Still, my mum can eat blended stuff, even with all the gunk she usually avoids. It's all very weird.

Juicing will not cut out all cellulose. ALL plant cell walls contain cellulose, even the cells from the 'flesh' of the plant. We cannot digest cellulose. Its use in the gut is to absorb water.

However, my mother avoids the skins and seeds of plant foods. She is able to eat the flesh of tomatoes, for instance, and grapes, but not the skins or seeds. She can also eat broad or butter beans with the skins taken off.

Looks as if it's something in the outer casings/skins, rather than cellulose, that's the problem. Perhaps the psyllium that jess mentions.

Here is a list from a kind wikipaedia author: A FEW COMMENTS IN CAPS FROM ME

Soluble fiber is found in varying quantities in all plant foods, including:
legumes (peas, soybeans, lupins and other beans) (I AM WONDERING ABOUT THE HUSKS OF THE LEGUMES - ARE THEY INSOLUBLE?)
oats, rye, chia, and barley (AGAIN THEY HAVE INSOLUBLE AS WELL IN THEM )
some fruits and fruit juices (including prune juice, plums, berries, bananas, and the insides of apples and pears)
certain vegetables such as broccoli, carrots, and Jerusalem artichokes
root tubers and root vegetables such as sweet potatoes and onions (skins of these are sources of insoluble fiber also)

psyllium seed husk (a mucilage soluble fiber) and flax seeds
THESE Seeds ALSO HAVE LOTS OF INSOLUBLE - BUT THEY SWELL UP DRAMATICALLY IN WATER - BECAUSE THEY CONTAIN CELLULOSE

ONE DRAW BACK ABOUT THE TRULY SOLUBLE FIBRES IS THAT WHEN GUT BACTERIA DIGEST THEM, GAS CAN BE PRODUCED, AS IN BEANS, BROCCOLI AND JERUSALEM ARTICHOKES.

Sources of insoluble fiber include:
whole grain foods
wheat and corn bran
legumes such as beans and peas
nuts and seeds
potato skins
lignans
vegetables such as green beans, cauliflower, zucchini (courgette), celery, and nopal
some fruits including avocado, and unripe bananas
the skins of some fruits, including kiwifruit and tomatoes[6]

If you were to cut out all the cellulose (e.g. if you juiced everything) then you might be very constipated. It absorbs water and softens the stools. I think fybogel is mainly cellulose with flavourings added.
Back to me again now in lower case. I guess it is a case of trying out peeled and de-seeded fruits, veg etc to find what suits. Smoothies maybe?

JessM I am also interested in which foods are soluble fibre? I need to keep my heart as healthy as I possibly can.

I am sure that our digestive system is still geared to a stone age diet. Which must mean loads of fibrus foods. I remember reading somewhere that in Africa a traditional diet may mean most meals of brown type rice or equivalent cereal. This means that one would poo perhaps 4 times a day, but bowel cancer is barely known.