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Ha! told ya.

(79 Posts)
thatbags Thu 07-Apr-16 18:12:49

Ancel Keys pushing of low fat diet exposed for the bosh it is. At last!

Glad I've been ignoring it for yonks.

K8tie Mon 11-Apr-16 12:13:51

Grass fed butter for me all the way! And it is the trans-fats in the margarines and hydrogenated oils that have been troublesome and causing all the health issues.
It is also my own personal belief that it was the introduction of the low-fat diets that encouraged so much alzheimer's, as after all the brain is 60% fat and does not work well when starved of essential healthy fats.
www.psychologytoday.com/blog/prime-your-gray-cells/201109/the-skinny-brain-fats

jocork Mon 11-Apr-16 12:10:31

I have never given up butter as a spread but used to use margarine for cooking though I recently changed to butter for everything. I've always believed sugar was the bigger problem after studying food science as part of my degree. Unfortunately the diet industry got on the "fat makes you fat" bandwaggon and we are all suffering as a result. I lost weight on a high fat low carbohydrate diet, the only one that didn't leave me constantly feeling hungry. If you check out the ingredients in most low fat products you find they replace fat with sugar to make them more palatable thus making them worse for you even though the calories are lower. I'm type 2 diabetic so I know my tolerance for carbohydrate is poor and I'm trying to get back to eating less carbs. Unfortunately they are very addictive so it isn't easy.If you are interested in the topic read "Eat Fat, Grow Slim" by Richard Mackarness which explains the addictive nature of carbohydrates and grains and links to alcohol addiction as alcoholic drinks are often made from grains.

HannahLoisLuke Mon 11-Apr-16 11:00:17

I love Lurpak unsalted and probably eat too much of it. Don't eat red meat at all though and although I adore cheese I only eat it a couple of times a week. My cholesterol levels are excellent so I'm not giving up butter. Low fat spreads are apparently much worse for you but I'd never eat them anyway. I'd love to put on a stone or even two but I remain stubbornly under eight stone and I'm 5'9" tall.

Lilyflower Mon 11-Apr-16 10:46:02

My DH and I gave up butter for Benecol spread decades ago but when I was pregnant with my second child (who's now 24) the taste of the spread made me very nauseous so I changed temporarily back to butter. Reader, I never went back.

So now, the news that fat is not bad for you and never was, is extremely satisfactory. Not only that, but the mistaken science which claimed fat was dangerous, along with all the flip-flopping nonsense we have been sold about alcohol, coffee, carbs and other foodstuffs reminds me to take 'expert' advice with a shovelful of salt. Everything in moderation is my watchword - and I am looking forward to the day when sugar (in moderate amounts) is likewise exonerated.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 11-Apr-16 10:35:04

Indinana I wasn't advocating given a nine month old home made jam! (further down/up the thread. I was replying to Nfk. smile

Maggieanne Mon 11-Apr-16 10:19:02

It's a case of using your common sense. Why do you need to buy snacks indinana? Remember when we were young, we didn't walk around all day eating and drinking, we didn't need to, it's just a habit. All this talk about keeping hydrated, just a gimmick, I bet the likes of Perrier are rubbing their hands in glee at our gullibility. Breakfast cereals? Don't buy them, we only had a small selection years ago, we are just used to shoving sugary things in our face now. If you watch any newsreel before the 70's there are very few fat people around, in fact if you look at people that we thought were grossly overweight, like Hattie Jacques you'll be amazed at how slim she looks in comparison to many of the lardies, including young girls, around now.

Tricia89 Mon 11-Apr-16 10:12:28

I ignore anything that begins 'research shows...Sooner or later it will show the opposite.

lizzyann Mon 11-Apr-16 10:11:02

Yes I am the same , diabetic for years and have been doing the ketogenic diet for a few months now , that's a high fat low carb diet .

moxeyns Mon 11-Apr-16 10:00:32

Ancel Keys was a fraud who has cost millions of lives.

I'm diabetic, and have been eating low carb for donkey's years. The doc told me at diagnosis that I'd be on multiple pills then insulin in 5 years' time; that was 15 years ago, and I'm still managing just fine with diet and exercise. And not worrying a jot about fat.

Anya Mon 11-Apr-16 07:56:08

Hilda try the pods that are just pure coffee such as the Americano or (my favourite) Barista. Then I add cream!

Trucia when my GC stay over they love a croissant for breakfast.

TriciaF Sun 10-Apr-16 08:58:20

What about breakfast cereals? It's almost impossible to find one now which hasn't got added sugar, or honey, or chocolate coating. And that's what most children seem to have for breakfast.
As for other things, just have smaller helpings, and no seconds or snacking between meals.

NfkDumpling Sat 09-Apr-16 17:23:23

I shall sit and demurely sip my Perrier water Jalima and chew a lettuce leaf!

Maggiemaybe Sat 09-Apr-16 15:57:02

You can order the unsweetened pods directly from the Dolce Gusto website, hildajenniJ, and the prices are in line with what you'd pay at the supermarket. My downfall is the Dolce Gusto Mocha, I'm afraid, but it has to be just an occasional treat.
www.dolce-gusto.co.uk/coffee-pods

Jalima Sat 09-Apr-16 15:23:44

Just eat nothing Nfk
You'll be OK then, no sugars, no calories, no worries!!

Jalima Sat 09-Apr-16 15:22:55

Indinana I used to buy them for the DGD but they weren't keen (no sugar, no salt, no taste hmm)

hildajenniJ Sat 09-Apr-16 14:43:10

There's nothing wrong with naturally occurring sugar in fruit and vegetables. It's the white, refined stuff that is poison. A little off topic, but I have been trying, without success, to find unsweetened coffee pods for the dolce gusto machine. We bought a variety pack, and there was one unsweetened latte machiatto pod among them. I much preferred it as I don't take sugar in coffee or tea. If someone can direct me to a supplier of the unsweetened pods I would be very grateful.

NfkDumpling Sat 09-Apr-16 13:36:31

Aargh!! I just Googled Fructose! There was me thinking honey and fresh fruit were good for you - and they're full of poison! shock. Even carrots and parsnips ! Doomed....!

Indinana Fri 08-Apr-16 23:42:24

Or, more likely, I will wink

Indinana Fri 08-Apr-16 23:41:32

Oh yes, I think DD has bought them before - I think she was just trying to find a cheaper alternative. They are, after all, only snack foods. She doesn't cut corners with her main meals, but thought she might save a little with these things!
Personally I think she should roll up her sleeves and get her mixer out grin

Jalima Fri 08-Apr-16 23:23:00

Indinana
You can buy little biscuity things for babies (Organix I think), rusks and carrot sticks etc. No sugar or salt

Jalima Fri 08-Apr-16 23:20:19

^ Farleys Rusks!^
We went past where the Farley's Rusks factory was the other day - now a Morrison's sad
They were always too sweet anyway - must have been nearly all sugar!

Jalima Fri 08-Apr-16 23:15:58

My one downfall, if you could call it that are nuts
No, they are very good for you, full of good fats and minerals.

Indinana Fri 08-Apr-16 23:06:56

I know jings, but the two tiny little teeth that are all she has managed to push through her gums so far are just so perfect, it seems wrong to give her sugar unnecessarily just yet. Plenty of time for that, she's only 9 months old smile

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 08-Apr-16 22:39:22

Wouldn't worry about it though. A bit of homemade jam never hurt anyone.

Indinana Fri 08-Apr-16 22:38:51

DD wanted to buy some snack foods for DGD - she regularly has apple slices or carrot sticks, but she wondered if the odd biscuit would hurt. So we started looking at the sugar content on all plain biscuits - rich tea, malted milk and so on - and were horrified to find that they are all at least 20 gms of sugar per 100 gms. That's TWENTY PERCENT of the product shock. We even found this to be true of the reduced sugar Farleys Rusks! So she bought some oatcakes (7gms) and breadsticks (trace).
Of course, then she started to worry about the salt content...