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Cookery programmes and hygiene

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Shinyredcar Mon 01-May-17 12:58:03

I guess I must just be an old-fashioned out-of-date cook. Does anyone else shudder at the Masterchef type programmes where cooks/chefs are praised for serving poultry and meat 'pink'? To me it is just not cooked. My DM and her mother were excellent cooks with wide repertoires but serving pork, lamb, or game birds still bloody would have given them the horrors.

Has food hygiene and risk of infection changed so much we don't bother about it any more?

Which makes me wonder why no one ever, in TV kitchen or professional ones shown, washes their hands before cooking or between types of food. They aren't shown washing the produce, either. Outbreaks of food poisoning have been traced to soil on potatoes and vegetables.

I know it isn't riveting television, but surely a second or three here and there would be an investment in food hygiene education?

Charleygirl Mon 01-May-17 13:04:20

The only person I have seen to wash his hands and also suggest to others that they do the same was James Martin when he ran his Saturday morning programme.

Kittye Mon 01-May-17 13:07:43

I too have a horror of pink meat especially pork, I'm afraid I tend to "cremate" meat. I wonder sometimes if they use different chopping boards for meat and veg prep too. I hate the way some of them,especially men, run their fingers through their hair whilst cooking. Do they wash the spoons they use to taste the food during cooking?
Saying all this I love cookery programmes especially Masterchef and BakeOff.

MawBroon Mon 01-May-17 13:11:03

As a 3 year old DD used to say to me when we were watching something scary on TV
"It's only acting Mummy"
Might I suggest we add some extra seasoning?
Take it with a pinch of salt!

hildajenniJ Mon 01-May-17 13:17:23

I like my steaks "medium", or just pink in the middle. I wouldn't dream of serving pork or poultry pink. At school, I was taught that you had to cook poultry all the way through to kill the bacteria within, the same with pork.
My DH was brought up on a farm and shudders at the thought of meat any way but we'll done.

hildajenniJ Mon 01-May-17 13:18:00

Well done!

Silly hudl.?

Christinefrance Mon 01-May-17 13:24:20

Why do the contestants not roll up their sleeves when cooking, really bugs me. Some people are there in heavy jumpers and must be so hot in the kitchen.
My husband is a chef and likes his meat pink, he hates it when he has to cook mine to death (his words) smile

Greyduster Mon 01-May-17 14:03:16

I don't watch cookery programmes like Masterchef anymore. I can't stand the way they "overhandle" the food after it has been cooked. As for meat, I love rare beef and steak (DH hates it that way - but overcooking it renders it flavourless IMO) but wouldn't dream of serving pork or poultry any way but well done. Duck is an exception for those that like it. I once saw James Martin cook a shoulder of pork, which needs long slow cooking, in about half the time it should have taken to render it tender and edible, and it was visibly pink. It could not have made good eating. We had a question and answer session with him on here some time ago and I asked him about it, but did not get a reply ?.

wildrose Mon 01-May-17 14:58:00

I shudder at the touching of hair too - and the tea towel over the shoulder is another unhygienic habit imo! I agree with those who prefer their meat to be served medium to well done. I miss James M on Saturdays!

merlotgran Mon 01-May-17 15:44:16

Oh for the days when the Q&A sessions used to be a regular treat.

I joined in 2012 and remember the likes of Anne Widdicombe, Jools Hudson, James Martin, Mary Berry, Alan Titchmarsh, Des O'Connor and many others.

Aren't we worth it any more? sad

Deedaa Mon 01-May-17 20:17:33

The thing that I always notice is how much the professional chefs handle food when they are plating up! Every last leaf of salad seems to be fiddled with. I'd rather not have my food touched too much.

Tizliz Mon 01-May-17 20:22:33

On an earlier master chef for professionals I remember Monica throwing a contestant out for putting raw chicken on the same chopping board as the salad. She is scary.

Christinefrance Mon 01-May-17 21:00:33

But she was so right Tizliz

GrandmaMoira Mon 01-May-17 21:59:37

Whilst I like pork well done, I have hard that the way pigs are farmed nowadays, pork is safe to eat pink, whereas it was not safe back in the 60s when we were young. Obviously chicken still needs to be well done.

Kittye Tue 02-May-17 10:15:39

Love Monica! She's really " glammed" up lately.

Lupin Tue 02-May-17 11:46:55

I love certain cookery programmes but don't get the - what is to me - undercooked meat or tuna. "But it's raw!" I shout. I don't mind a bit of pink but positively bloody - no! As for chicken with any pink in - I won't eat it.
I too love Monica, scary or not.

starlily106 Tue 02-May-17 12:31:11

I can't stand to even look at meat which is pink, never mind bloody. When I see chefs using a spoon to taste a dish and then do it again with the same spoon without washing it I hate it, and why do they use a cloth to tidy around a plate to get rid of drops of whatever, why don't they use a paper towel.

Legs55 Tue 02-May-17 13:25:52

I like steak & beef rare but poultry & pork must be well cooked. Not sure about lamb as I rarely eat it but don't think I would like it "pink".

Tea towel over shoulder is a habit of mine but it never gets near food or plate, only used for lifting hot pans (in a kitchen you would use a thick cloth either over the shoulder or tucked into waistband of apron, it becomes a habit)

Agree about spoons, I use same one & don't wash it if I'm just preparing my own food but would not do that if cooking for othersgrin

schnackie Tue 02-May-17 13:44:08

What annoyed me was during the whole series of James Martin's French trip cooking show a few months ago, it seemed like every single day he would attempt to wash his hands in some sort of bucket or even stream of water, but then would moan and say "Must be seen to be washing my hands or we'll get letters..."

sweetpea Tue 02-May-17 13:53:34

What about nail varnish? Even the lovely Mary Berry has painted nails during her programme. I did a City and Guilds course a few years back, in Sugarcraft, and it was drilled into us - hair tidy and tied back, chef's jacket, NO NAIL VARNISH, and wash your hands before and during food prep. ?

lesley4357 Tue 02-May-17 15:13:00

My pet hate is cooks wearing rings whilst cooking and getting their hands in to mix ingredients. I shudder at the amount of dead skin and bacteria lurking under their wedding rings etc

grandMattie Tue 02-May-17 15:50:43

I like meat which has been shown the grill/oven! grin But - I would never eat pink pork or poultry! I suspect that one no longer has tape-worm in the pork, but there still is Campylobacter and Salmonella on poultry.
The way that hair is allowed to swing free everywhere, hands that barely go near soap and the tea-towel over the shoulder revolt me.

hicaz46 Tue 02-May-17 16:47:53

When listening to or questioning chefs about pink pork or chicken I have been assured that because their meat is from a know and reputable source then it is perfectly safe to eat pink. They apparently don't feed them scraps like they used to which could contain some nasties. I am more concerned about lack of hygiene ie hair not tied back or covered and not very frequent hand washing.

BRedhead59 Tue 02-May-17 16:59:06

Also ... the amount of salt they throw on everything....

JanaNana Tue 02-May-17 18:27:39

Going back quite a few years, when Ready Steady Cook used to be on the go,all the professional chefs wore proper "cook whites" and the contestants wore an apron.Over the years it seems that it's unimportant to cover your clothes when cooking and to my mind unhygenic. Even Saturday Kitchen when JM hosted it ,I have seen him cooking in an outdoor jacket. Why? Also the amount of rings worn. Many years ago when we were taught domestic science the only acceptable ring you would wear was a plain wedding ring, certainly not several rings with stones. As for the hand washing I have noticed on some programmes were the cooks seem to have something (bowl) underneath the work surface and am guessing this may be their handwashing facility.