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Interesting story in the news today

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CariGransnet (GNHQ) Tue 27-Feb-18 09:09:48

About how over 60s have not tried many of the 'staple' foods that millennials love

(Having canvassed some of the millennials at GNHQ/MNHQ none of them eat spurulina and matcha either.. and for some of the 'shunned' foods (eg salmon) it turns out only 4% haven't tried hmm)

Anyway thought it would be interesting to see what you think. I can see that spirulina and wheatgrass won't be a large part of most people's diets (and I think they may slightly be generalising about millennials here grin) but are blueberries and olives really so outlandish?!

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/top-50-unusual-foods-over-12092403

Blinko Tue 27-Feb-18 11:54:24

Like Luzdoh I too resent assumptions (and judgements)being made about what I have or haven't tried from this obviously crucial list.

How many young people have tried battenburg? Does that count?

Katek Tue 27-Feb-18 11:57:56

Oh for heaven’s sake! Where do they get this from? I eat everything on the list after item 4 apart from meat/fish as I’m veggie. Lentils and porridge have been a staple of Scots’ diet for years-centuries in the case of porridge. Even my grandmother born in 1894 ate salmon. Stop generalising about the over 60’s - lots of us were into healthy eating from the 1970’s! Mung beans anyone??

Direne3 Tue 27-Feb-18 12:24:42

Quite agree, Katek. I'm in my 70's and have tried (and enjoyed) all on the list (with the exception of meat & fish) - been vegetarian for 30 years and embrace new food experiences.

luluaugust Tue 27-Feb-18 12:33:21

Haven't had around 10 out of the fifty.

Granny23 Tue 27-Feb-18 12:41:32

I have so many favourite foods that it takes me a more than a monthly rotation to have them all. Why on earth would I therefore waste money on trying things I am unsure of or have tried in the past and did not like? I grow favourite fruit and veg and binge on that while it is in season, with some frozen to enjoy in the winter.

Elegran Tue 27-Feb-18 12:48:43

The conclusions and the headlines are at odds with the figures.
One in ten has never tried duck, aubergines or asparagus? Put it the other way round - nine out of ten HAVE eaten these foods, and possibly eat them frequently.

1.3% have never eaten porridge? So 98.7% of them HAVE eaten porridge. It was a staple breakfast food in their youth and probably still is.

I shall copy and paste the list, with the other side of the statistics added.

The foods at the top of the list are mostly examples of transient crazes for new "wonder foods" which will soon either fall into obscurity or become a regular and boring part of the traditional menu. Those at the bottom of the list are hardly "new" or exotic. Most of them have been on the plates of the over sixties for - well, for over sixty years.

Millenials have just discovered the virtues of beetroot, salmon, nuts, broccoli, beans, and think their poor ignorant elders were not aware of them.

Legs55 Tue 27-Feb-18 12:57:16

What rubbish, I haven't tried the top 4, wouldn't try Cronuts as I'm Diabetic. I'm adventurous where food is concerned but don't follow the "fads"confused

Elegran Tue 27-Feb-18 13:11:46

Not tried . . . . . . . . Have tried

Matcha 90.60% . . . . . . . . . 9.4%
Spirulina 85.00% . . . . . . . . . 15%
A cronut 76.80% . . . . . . . . . 23.2%
Wheatgrass 76.40% . . . . . . . . 23.6%
Chia seeds 73.60% . . . . . . . . 26.4%
Goji berries 67.10% . . . . . . . 32.9%
Flax seeds 62.90% . . . . . . . . 37.1%
Octopus 54.20% . . . . . . . . . 45.8%
Quinoa 52.80% . . . . . . . . . 47.2%
Avocado on toast 52.30% . . . . . 47.7%
Dairy-free milk like oat or almond milk 46.60% . 53.4%
Sauerkraut 39.10% . . . . . . , , . 61.9%
A vegan burger/sausage 38.50% . . . 61.5%
Celeriac 36.00% . . . . . . . . . . 64%
Papaya 34.60% . . . . . . . . . . . 65.4%
Parsnip crisps 34.10% . . . . . . . . 65.9%
Coconut oil 32.50% . . . . . . . . , 67.5%
Sourdough bread 29.80% . . . . . . 70.2
Houmous 28.20% . . . . . . . . . . 71.8
Granola 26.30% . . . . . . . . . . . 73.7%
Green tea 25.30% . . . . . . . . . . 74.7%
Tacos 22.60% . . . . . . . . . . . . 77.4%
Any avocado 22.50% . . . . . . . . . 77.5%
Couscous 21.60% . . . . . . . . . . . 78.4
Kale 18.00% . . . . . . . . . . . . 72%
Smoothies 15.30% . . . . . . . . . . 84.7%
Aubergine 15.20% . . . . . . . . . . 84.8%
Olives 14.40% . . . . . . . . . . . . 85.6%
Duck 13.70% . . . . . . . . . . . . . 86.3%
A latte coffee 13.10% . . . . . . . . . 86.9%
Passion fruit 11.70% . . . . . . . . . . 88.3%
Asparagus 10.70% . . . . . . . . . . . 89.3%
Pomegranate 8.90% . . . . . . . . . . 91.1%
Lentils 8.80% . . . . . . . . . . . . 91.2%
Courgette 8.20% . . . . . . . . . . . 91.8%
Mango 7.30% . . . . . . . . .92.7%
Coriander 6.50% . . . . . . 93.7%
Kidney beans 5.70% . . . . .94.3%
Spinach 5.60% . . . . . . . 94.4%
Kiwi fruit 5.30% . . . . . . .94.7%
Blueberries 4.70% . . . . . . 95.3%
Curry 4.70% . . . . . . . . 95.3%
Salmon 4.00% . . . . . . . 96%
Garlic 3.80% . . . . . . . . 96.2%
Walnuts 2.30% . . . . . . . .97.7%
Almonds 2.10% . . . . . . . . 97.9%
Croissant 2.00% . . . . . . . 98%
Broccoli 1.80% . . . . . . . . 98.2%
Beetroot 1.50% . . . . . . . . 98.5%
Porridge 1.30% . . . . . . . 98.7%

GrandmaMoira Tue 27-Feb-18 13:27:41

Apart from those top few odd items, the rest of the food is just part of a normal diet surely. In my family it's still usually me introducing anything new to the family meals. My sons are no more adventurous than I am. I did come across different things when I was working but that was more due to working with people from around the world.
Is this another dig at older people.

winterwhite Tue 27-Feb-18 13:31:29

Am I the only one to have read fairly recently that these new seed crazes are doing more harm than good by increasing prices in the places where they’re grown, where they’re staple food stuffs, all for the sake of creating and then satisfying first world fads. Quinoa was specified, also I think chia seeds.

blueberry1 Tue 27-Feb-18 13:34:42

Saw a TV programme where they tested "superfoods" and most of them were no better for you than cheaper substitutes.E.g.,pearl barley was just as good as quinoa and I've always used pearl barley in my stews/casseroles.My mom and gran loved salmon,I can't eat fish due to allergy.I love blueberries-my gran used to gather and eat them as a child in South Wales.Porridge was always our winter breakfast.
I think food is like sex-each new generation thinks they discovered it!

OldMeg Tue 27-Feb-18 13:47:06

Yes, only two on that list I haven’t ‘tried’ but lots of unusual foods I have eaten which don’t appear on the list at all.

Stella14 Tue 27-Feb-18 13:53:40

Hubby and I have Spirulina. It’s ideal for those of us getting older. There is good evidence that it reinforces the immune system, some evidence that it helps fight cancer. It is high in Iron and the vitamin K group.

Stella14 Tue 27-Feb-18 13:55:13

Oh yes, and we eat salmon once or twice a week (we don’t eat meat).

grandMattie Tue 27-Feb-18 14:14:33

Eaten nearly all regularly. Except avocado on toast - why spoil a good avocado???
Matcha, chia and spirulina smack of "trendy", and quite frankly, I can't be bothered with them - as for cronuts, i like neither doughnut nor croissant particularly. I can't see myself enjoying the mixture!What about Wheatgrass which was the food of the year recently?
Salmon? Wasn't tinned salmon a staple after the war? Fresh salmon is recent.
Yes, I do have a good diet, yes we eat at least "8-a-day", yes, I cook almost everything from scratch. Why do they assume that us oldies [and wiser IMHO] are stuck-in-the-mud just because we don't live in London and are over 13?

Carolpaint Tue 27-Feb-18 14:37:56

Most of the list we have all eaten. Some on the list are not pleasant to taste, some people like green tea however some of us find it horrid, would prefer pearl barley to couscous or quinoa, barley is more versatile even as a delicious pudding with cardamom to flavour. In Africa when you had your avocado tree you even could make a dessert from it. I think certain researchers must chose the most vacant people they can find. Does anyone else remember the researchers offering slices of fresh pineapple to people who denied eating or even knowing what it was. A few weeks ago The Metro had some research that said children did not know the difference between an apple and a mango, tried the same list out in two grandchildren, yes they did know them all. What a load of tosh. Being adventurous does not just apply to cars, holidays, clothes or often age, something to do with inclination too.

M0nica Tue 27-Feb-18 14:52:09

I doubt if many younger people have tasted all these items, still less eaten them. Trendy young media types working for the newspaper, who drew up this list may have, but there is a significant proportion of that age group who live on fast food, remember all that fuss last week when a lot of KFC.s closed down for a few days. Will this group in the population really be familiar with wheatgrass, chia seeds and matcha?

I admit the top 5 are not on my supermarket shopping list, but looking at the other 50. 16 of the items I remember from childhood and I have tasted them all more than once. Another 12 I have been buying since the 1970s and there are 2 I will never ever taste, and it is nothing to do with age. I loathe milk and anything milk like, so I will never ever order or drink a latte, Americano every time for me, nor will I ever want to try a milk alternative. I would rather live without it.

suzied Tue 27-Feb-18 14:57:18

This is non story , must be short on news to put in the paper. There are a greater variety of foods available now than when we were growing up, so my GC love stuff like sushi and hummus which were unheard of when I was a child. I have eaten most of the foods on that list btw.

patriciageegee Tue 27-Feb-18 14:59:32

It's just obnoxious, London centric, lazy, so called 'journalists' having a cynical little smirk at the ignorant oi polloi i.e. us and trying to show clever and on it they are. If you're at all into food all the items on the list will be familiar. Whether they are pleasant (matcha tea...hmm) is a different thing but a matter of choice not ignorance.

inishowen Tue 27-Feb-18 15:00:34

My dad grew up in the country. When humans began eating sweetcorn he was horrified. He said it was chicken food!

MargaretX Tue 27-Feb-18 15:29:21

Do the people who eat quinoa and cous cous know that it is basically wheat. Porridge is oats and then there is rice and potatoes. There you have the main staples that humans live on nowadays.
A lot of obesity is caused by eating wheat especially combined with yeast and their health would improve if they gave it up for a while and tried rye or buckwheat.

We over 60s are obviously a mystery to the under 60s. Can they do maths? Don't they know there was a war and a rationing after the war. How on earth did they think we managed without porridge. Since then we got to know Italian and Indian food and different ways of cooking and produced meals for a family out of almost nothing.

Don’t they know that what they think of are super foods are super for the bank balances of the firms that produce them and that carrots would be healthier.

Elegran Tue 27-Feb-18 15:29:46

Farming people regard the big orange swedes as animal food. Early English visitors to Scotland were amazed at the Scots eating, oats and barley for the same reason.

Further afield, various peculiar bits of animal carcasses are seen in some cultures as delicacies, but foodies here would be horrified to find them on their plate.

grannyactivist Tue 27-Feb-18 15:31:01

Only the top four items on the list remain untried by me, but as for the rest - they're all regulars in my fridge or store cupboard. To be honest I'm more than a little sceptical about this list - my grandmother used to eat many of these foods!

SueDonim Tue 27-Feb-18 15:36:59

The Chilean Blueberry Committee? confused

That really is a horribly patronising article. I wonder how many millennials have eaten tripe, pigs trotters, brawn, turnips, tapioca etc. They were things my grandfather ate regularly!

Elegran Tue 27-Feb-18 15:37:39

I smile at the statement that the list is of "Top 50 'unusual' foods over-60s haven't tried - and some of them are staples for millennials"

Most of them are not in fact unusual. Then there is the definition of what is a "staple". Usually defined as one of the main ingredients in a diet - so is it OK to have as a main ingredient a food which is either :-

1) absolutely essential to the nutrition of the population where it is produced (so you could be driving up the price, or depriving them of it completely)

or 2) very expensive (so to eat a lot of it you must one of the country's top earners.

Nice work if you can get it, but not essential to the sustenance of first-world life.