Scarcities

GillT57 my post was tongue in cheek - however, it is amazing that students on gap years are prepared to pick and pack fruit and vegetables in Australia etc but it is seemingly beneath them to pick cauliflowers in this country!

Good point Jalima .
We were still 'digging for gold' last autumn, and hope to grow more veg. in the small garden of our new house. On a smaller scale.

It's possible to grow fruit and veg on windowsills and indoors.

and there are no snakes or venomous spiders lurking amongst the cauliflowers, which can be found when picking hands of bananas

Are you seriously suggesting Belgravian that you could become self sufficient in fruit and veg by planting in window boxes or indoors? If so you must eat a lot less than we do!

Whilst I don't think anyone is suggesting total self sufficiency on a window ledge or similar it would be a good idea Varian to check out verticalveg.org.UK and similar blogs. You would be absolutely amazed at what can be achieved as I said in an earlier post on this thread.

From all that is written it would appear to be more likely that the world debt culture and the subsequent world financial collapse will eventually be what has the negative impact on the ability of people to feed themselves rather than any of the spurious suggestions on here. We may not be able to eat as once we could but people will eat what is available - just like we used to do in times past and as they do in so many other countries in this world. Always a good idea to learn how to look after yourself anyway.

As for the unwillingness of people to do manual work it is amazing what people can do when necessary, they just need the motivation. "Needs must when the devil drives" OR "sometimes events compel you to do what you would rather not". Handwringers starve!

As for the unwillingness of people to do manual work it is amazing what people can do when necessary, they just need the motivation.
I must say that my DC were never too proud to do jobs that others may have turned their noses up at when they were students or if they needed money for something.

Ditto Jalima

Same here, Jalima.

Are our offspring typical of all UK workers? I doubt it.

I don't know, certainly most of their friends are the same.

I saw asparagus in Lidl yesterday but it was from Spain so I decided to look for the local asparagus
(and definitely not tinned )

Might the tinned asparagus be deleted from my record

Just eat it and recycle the tin!