FOOD Shortages England

JaneJudge

There have been lots of threads where people have posted there are shortages of food/drink and there is a group of people who deny these shortages because where they live is ok, or when they go shopping it is fine and they can get what they want. Someone else will post in a minute and say people are too fussy.

Quite a few posters have posted about people on budgets who have to meal plan finding certain items out of stock and unavailable becoming a financial problem.

People have posted regarding certain health conditions and behaviour disorders that might find shortages of certain foods difficult.

Some people who post don't want to acknowledge there are problems for other people.

A lot of people mention the war.

Some people wonder what is going on.

I live rural and luckily have the income to pay for online deliveries and can pay for substitutes and whatever I like I don't think everyone is the same as me. Lots of people who live rural are forced to shop with what is available within their area and what funds they have available. So even if I am childish, I hope it is with the right intentions.

I have consistently acknowledged that there are areas with problems, I cannot however pretend I have seen/noticed shortages when I haven’t.

I have never mentioned the war.

I have posted that stockpiling affects those on a lower budget who live hand to mouth and cannot afford to fill their larders/freezers on a whim

Not sure why you seem to be picking on my posts in particular?

I'm not picking you. I'm sorry you thought that was the case.

The pandemic did indeed bring out the best in many people GG. Lots of people helping others with shopping etc. But I don’t think ‘most’ do what they can outside that unique situation. If they did our local food banks here wouldn’t have to beg for supplies. Which they do. I wish it were otherwise.

JaneJudge

I'm not picking you. I'm sorry you thought that was the case.

OK truce (it’s been a stressful day, I had managed to erase years of school uniform/shoe shopping for our five from my mind for a reason, it’s horrendous on every level, just as bad years later for GC with a grumpy DH on tow )

Shelves aren't empty in our local shops but fronting up so they look fuller than they are is very noticeable. Cat food is still very problematic, Aldi seems to be short of tinned tomatoes at the moment and yesterday they were selling British green beans which were spotted and very unappetising to look at presumably a combination of transport problems and no one to pick them at the right time.

I've bought mould spray for our food bank as so many people use use the food bank have mould problems in their rented homes



Astonish do bottles of it for £1 fwiw, as I'm sure this isn't a unique problem to the food bank I support. Obviously it is more plastic though

GrannyGravy13

JaneJudge

oh well, I'm sure you'll get over it

How childish, is that your idea of an adult online discussion
?

about as adult as saying all is well in Thorpe Bay.

GillT57 I merely pointed out that the shops I have been in recently (Waitrose, Aldi, Sainsbury’s & M & S Food) had hardly any empty shelves and added the locations I had shopped in.

If or when I find shortages I will post them, but until then I shall continue to post on the situation in the shops that I use.

If you had actually read my previous posts on this thread I have acknowledged that there are shortages in some areas, but I will not post falsehoods to suit others agendas.

Eloquent post JaneJudge, well put. I think that many of us do not appreciate the difference being able to buy a tin of 'smart price' tinned tomatoes at 29p compared to Italian premium ones at well over £1 a tin makes to the budget of someone on a very tight shopping basket. I can buy the expensive ones, many cannot.

Some shortages will never bother me, as long as I have the basics. I suppose Soviet Russia would have suited me fine as I don’t want too much variety or choice and that’s what the supermarkets give us. There is so much on the shelves it confuses me and I stay away from the big supermarkets.

I would never suggest your print falsehoods GG13, but you do keep suggesting that a lot of the shortages are down to people stockpiling, without any evidence that this is happening. I do sympathise with you over shoe shopping with a child, I remember well the delicate balancing act between buying new school shoes at the beginning of the holidays with quieter shop and more choice and availability, but serious risk of a growth spurt rendering said unworn shoes redundant, and leaving it to the end, with crowded shoe shop full of fractious children and parents, and having to take what is available.....

GillT57

I would never suggest your print falsehoods GG13, but you do keep suggesting that a lot of the shortages are down to people stockpiling, without any evidence that this is happening. I do sympathise with you over shoe shopping with a child, I remember well the delicate balancing act between buying new school shoes at the beginning of the holidays with quieter shop and more choice and availability, but serious risk of a growth spurt rendering said unworn shoes redundant, and leaving it to the end, with crowded shoe shop full of fractious children and parents, and having to take what is available.....

I still remember going into Aldi and seeing trolleys piled high, GN members telling of their stocked freezers and brexit store.

If we all shopped for what we needed as opposed to what we wanted, maybe, just maybe it would benefit us and the rest of the U.K.

So, its the Sun I'm afraid, but there are shortages: www.thesun.co.uk/money/15970057/what-causing-food-supply-shortages/

So its great news that some people aren't affected by it and can show us pictures of their overflowing supermarkets, but there are shortages. Nothing to do with stockpiling or panic buying.

Shall I say that again?

There are shortages.

Alegrias1

So, its the Sun I'm afraid, but there are shortages: www.thesun.co.uk/money/15970057/what-causing-food-supply-shortages/

So its great news that some people aren't affected by it and can show us pictures of their overflowing supermarkets, but there are shortages. Nothing to do with stockpiling or panic buying.

Shall I say that again?

^There are shortages.^

I for one have never disagreed with there are shortages I have just said that there appears to be regional differences

Well I don't think the empty shelves in Wilco have anything to do with stockpiling - can't think why anyone would want to stockpile placemats and crockery!

If we all shopped for what we needed as opposed to what we wanted, maybe, just maybe it would benefit us and the rest of the U.K

Oh, please - not this again. In the first lockdown there were people who were determined to impose their way of doing things onto everyone else, and it was very unedifying.

Some people shop as they run out of things, and others buy in bulk less often. Neither way is wrong, and neither shopper is selfish. Telling people that they should only shop once a week when they usually go every day is no more reasonable than telling someone else that she shouldn't fill her trolley on her monthly trip to Sainsburys.

As yet, this is still a free country, and we are at liberty to shop where and when we wish. Let's keep it that way for as long as we can?

Providing we use up everything we buy and do not end up throwing it away unused, it doesn't really matter what our shopping patterns are, or if we buy a few extra tins, or an extra pound or so of rice if we see straitened times ahead, whatever the cause.

It is what prudent shoppers/hunter/gatherers/subsidence farmers have done since the beginning of time.

I don't think we'll starve because of food shortages and it wouldn't hurt a lot of people to make do but medicine shortages need the Government to act.

This just gets on my wick.

No, probably most of us won't starve. But some of us will have our lives inconvenienced by the shortages. Some of us will be unable to source groceries we need, and that will cause stress. Some of us won't be skipping into Tesco's saying "oh, just like the war, eh?"

It wouldn't hurt a lot of people to make do? There we were, getting used to our lives not being a problem, that'll teach us.

It wouldn't hurt a lot of people to admit that Brexit is a s***show, just like we said it would be. But I don't suppose that'll happen either.

I was in Thorpe Bay Broadway today to buy some cards.
I can vouch that all was good.

M0nica

Providing we use up everything we buy and do not end up throwing it away unused, it doesn't really matter what our shopping patterns are, or if we buy a few extra tins, or an extra pound or so of rice if we see straitened times ahead, whatever the cause.

It is what prudent shoppers/hunter/gatherers/subsidence farmers have done since the beginning of time.

But it didn't have to be like this.

PS. I don't eat rice.

Oh, please - not this again. In the first lockdown there were people who were determined to impose their way of doing things onto everyone else, and it was very unedifying.

I'm afraid some people just don't seem to be able to help themselves from telling people that they should run their lives like they do themselves.

By the way, I don't think anybody actually starved in the former Communist bloc, although I don't think they were too keen on queuing for basic foodstuffs. Who would have thought that some people think that's a good way to live?

No, and it's one thing keeping your chin up and putting on a brave face etc etc when there's a war on and lives depend on it, but quite another to have been opted into adversity unnecessarily.

Yes Alegias1 Brexit sucks, as it was foretold by those who chose to listen, but it’s not about to be reversed right now, so we are where we are.
So, as the OP said, a perfect storm. I have no easy answers out of what are undoubtably some food shortages in some areas of the UK. There are other shortages I find very concerning, which I could start another thread on, no answers there either because it comes back to the same issues.

I thought perhaps I was bring picky in wanting things to be quite a lot better than they were during wartime. I have always been a bit demanding.