Recipe for Vegan curry

It is very strange how much antagonism is directed towards vegans.

All they do is live on a plant based diet, which does not affect anyone else.

It would be more understandable if all the world were vegan and suddenly some people started to eat dead animals.

Is this anti-vegan thing part of what's called "culture wars"?

All they do is live on a plant based diet, which does not affect anyone else.

That is not why I don't understand why vegans want to eat food that looks, sounds and tastes like meat.

I didn't say anything against vegans I just complained about the way they seem to have colonised any recipe that happens not to contain animal products by stamping their name on it.

I hate the way DH never closes a drawer or cupboard door, it really p****s me off, but it doesn't mean I hate him, just those specific actions. Exactly the same applies to Vegans. I fully respect their food choices and reasons for making them, but I wish they wouldn't take over and claim to themselves food that everybody else eats and has often done so for hundreds of years.

callistemon Not all vegans want to eat food that looks/ tastes like meat . I don’t for one. Fake meat is really being made by food companies aimed at meat eaters who want to cut down on meat and those who can’t believe a meal is complete without a meat substitute. I stopped eating meat because I didn’t like the idea of eating dead animals so anything resembling flesh is off putting, plus I don’t like too much processed food.
MOnica your belief that vegans are conspiring to colonise recipes and going round “stamping their name on it” is hostile and based on no evidence. Names on recipes are created by food writer and cooks to describe their dishes, very few of them are vegans.

I stopped eating meat because I didn’t like the idea of eating dead animals so anything resembling flesh is off putting, plus I don’t like too much processed food
I understand that and respect your decision, vegansrock.

What I don't understand is people who want to become vegan but still want their food to look like meat, sound like meat and taste like meat.
Those products I describe sound very processed to me, more so than anything I eat.

I think it’s a ploy by food manufacturers looking for new markets and to make a tidy profit callistemon.

Probably, vegansrock but every time the advert comes on we say 'Rubbish! No such thing, that's a contradiction in terms'.

I wouldn't be tempted to buy any, I'd rather use chick peas or lentils to make a curry or dahl.

I think the food producers have identified a market for quick, easy 'meat replacement' items, useful for families where somebody is vegan and others are not. I don't buy these things, having a selection of pre-cooked stuff in the freezer and a few memorised simple recipes.

I found the vegan label very useful for choosing things that a granddaughter with milk protein allergy could have. For instance, biscuits - so many have dried milk in them (as it's a cheap filler) but I knew that fruit shortcakes, Fox's dark chocolate chunky cookies and Hobnobs were ok.

M&S have vegan choc chip cookies, probably other ones too.

We're not vegan but DH bought some when we had visitors. They ate one each and we polished off the rest (only one a day each).
Perhaps two as they're very nice.

I put desert apple in my vegan curry, and so it needs no sugar.

How could anyone read this thread, I could never condone cannibalism against anyone, let alone vegans,

I wonder what the OP thinks of Vegan Magnums, Vegan Kitkats, Vegan Galaxy, Vegan Cornettos ( all available in the shops) - I expect it was those pesky vegans taking over food production and slapping their name on it - no, it’s the food manufacturers trying to get a lucrative share of the market of people who want to cut down on animal products.

But they are different versions of products that already exist under the same name. Magnums, KitKats, Galaxys etc and have been specifically formulated to be different from the original so that vegans can eat it. I have absolutely no problems with that.

I keep saying that my irritation is strictly limited to the situation where existing recipes suddenly have vegan added to their title. I have absolutely no problem with recipes/dishes that have been specially formulated for vegans being called vegan, anymore than when specially formulated bread products are called Gluten free bread.

My objection is when a recipe or dish that has been around for ages and is exactly the same no matter who eats it, suddenly has Vegan added to its name because vegans eat it. One day a product is vegetable curry, the next day it is Vegan curry, even though it is the same recipe with the same ingredients. Why not call it omnivore curry, it would be much more accurate?

Too many people are reading into my OP things I did not say and do not espouse, from hating vegans to objecting to food products specially formulated for vegans having the word attacched to them.

I have made it so clear so often that that my irritation is limited to this one very narrow concept - describing a perfectly ordinary vegetable curry as a vegan curry, when people have been making and eating vegetable curries for hundreds of years befor this term and its exact meaning was even thought of.

But MOnica it’s not vegans that are doing this as you seem to think. Ok we understand you’d rather it was called vegetable curry but at the end of the day it’s a recipe not a sacred text.

How do you know it is not vegans doing this? It is just an irritant, no more.

Oh! these first world problems.

I expect millions in the world would like anything to eat never mind showing irritation as to how it is presented.

I have absolutely no problem with recipes/dishes that have been specially formulated for vegans being called vegan
This comment does sound like vegans are a breed apart. Vegans just don't eat all that others eat.
Though not a vegan, I'm delighted at all this vegan-labelled food in the shop. A vegan curry contains no meat/fish (like a vegetable curry obviously), but also no animal/fish-based additives which can be slipped into what appears to be vegetarian food, but in fact isn't (eg M&S sauces can contain fish additives).
I don't understand why food that definitely doesn't contain something, and is clearly labelled as such, should be objected to.
And remember it's the marketing people who make these decisions, in order to make money.

My favourite vegan dish might be ‘no-chicken Kiev’, except I by eating it I discovered I can’t eat tofu without it upsetting my stomach, so presumably I’m allergic to Soya.

Oh for heavens sake WWM1, stop being such a Virtue signalling pseud. To quote Shakespeare, 'Dost thou think that because thou art virtuous, there shall be no more cakes and ale?" Sir Toby Belch, Twelth Night Act 2, Scene 3.

There no difficulty in making vegan curry, many curries have meat in, just omit the meat , potato cauliflower broccoli peppers peas beans raisins the list is endless use whatever spices you want for flavor.
I would never use a bought sauce it’s so easy to DIY, I bet I could make a vegan curry and the OH would not know the difference.
I do have a vegan niece, the problem is that she will not tolerate anyone else eating meat at the same table, so socializing is difficult, that’s just one of the problems that makes life difficult for her.

Katie59, That's a nuisance, does she have her own little table outside? The vegans here are quite happy watching others chomp away on meat, dairy, honey etc. I just have to be very careful to cater for everyone and watch out for hidden egg, milk or butter in the strangest things - and buy the right wine!

We are vegetarian, and never go for meat substitutes that taste like meat: can't stand them. But we accept that some people do, and good luck to them.
Can't we try and be more tolerant?

Hetty58

Katie59, That's a nuisance, does she have her own little table outside? The vegans here are quite happy watching others chomp away on meat, dairy, honey etc. I just have to be very careful to cater for everyone and watch out for hidden egg, milk or butter in the strangest things - and buy the right wine!

She’s my brothers problem not mine and has hang up about hang ups, at least the kids are healthy, their father makes sure of that. He doesn’t live in but is closeby and contributing.

There is nothing "virtue signalling" about being vegan.

It is true that vegans do less harm to the planet than omnivores but that is not usually the only reason for their decision to follow a plant based diet.

Whatever the motivation of vegans, it is nothing to do with deliberately irritating anyone.

Varian I do wish you would read what I write before jumping to conclusions. My OP is only, note only about the word vegan be attached to recipes that are perfectly ordinary recipes eaten by everyone and have existed for centuries before veganism became a movement. In this case an ordinary vegtable curry being described as a vegan curry.

Since then you (and others) have decided that this means that I hate vegans, I don't, object to the word vegan being attached to food substitutes developed especially for vegans, again I do not and now you have decided that I have described veganism as virue signalling. I haven't, I used that phrase to describe another poster going all holier than thou and muttering the incantation of all virtue signallers 'first world problems'. Well, so what, I am sure even those in 25th worlds, or what the lowest (highest?) worlds are as well as truly terrible problems, also have some little trivial problems, that really irritate.

Finallly you have started waffling on about the motivations of vegans, again a subject I haven't touched.

Let me repeat (yet again) my complaint was about the word vegan being attached to animal product free dishes that people with all sorts of eating regimes have been enjoying for aeons. It is a form of cultural appropriation.