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Is anyone else using lard now that butter is so expensive?

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Romola Fri 01-Jul-22 21:37:27

I now make pastry with half butter, half lard (37p for 250 grams) like my mother used to in the 40s and 50s. Results are fine.
Has anyone else gone back to lard? I gether that it is no longer considered unhealthy compared with vegetable fat.

Callistemon21 Sat 02-Jul-22 10:31:10

I really fancy a blackberry and apple pie with custard.

Unfortunately, being rather immobile at the moment, I am beginning to look like a lump of lard myself.

MissAdventure Sat 02-Jul-22 10:33:47

Are you still having problems?
It's been a long while, now.

gulligranny Sat 02-Jul-22 10:34:12

I've always used half Stork margarine and half Trex for pastry and it's fine - using butter for pastry seems too ... indulgent? Maybe it's my post-war upbringing when butter just wasn't available much but I prefer to save it for my toast.

Hellogirl1 Sat 02-Jul-22 10:35:41

I`ve always used just lard for making pastry, still do. Also in the chip pan.

DaisyAnne Sat 02-Jul-22 10:36:52

MissAdventure

A lot of what people think is not based on actual fact.
The healthiest way, probably, is not to cover good, nutritious food with pastry, because it isn't necessary.
I love a good pie, though.

I'm sure the cockroaches are okay. However, those in the know are becoming concerned about ultra-high processed food, of which margerine is one. The British eat a lot of UHPFs - more than most countries.

If you look at the ingredients on anything and there is more than one, you are getting things you may not be aware of. I have just looked on the side of a tin of tomatoes - even that has four ingredients. The combinations on the ultra-high processed foods may (not will) make you ill or fat.

MissAdventure Sat 02-Jul-22 10:46:15

Well, short of living on a farm and being totally self sufficient, we are probably all at risk, somewhere along the line.
Even some kefir is highly processed, apparently.

Witzend Sat 02-Jul-22 11:16:26

Callistemon21

I really fancy a blackberry and apple pie with custard.

Unfortunately, being rather immobile at the moment, I am beginning to look like a lump of lard myself.

Oh dear, Callistemon21, I hope you’ll recover soon.

Callistemon21 Sat 02-Jul-22 11:17:47

Thank you Witzend
In the meantime, there's Wimbledon and I have taken up knitting again ?

maddyone Sat 02-Jul-22 11:19:32

I never use lard. Always butter or margarine for all baking.

TillyTrotter Sat 02-Jul-22 11:20:59

I used to have Lard all the time, as my mother did before me.
Now I have moved to oils and butter. A little of each does us no harm does it?

maddyone Sat 02-Jul-22 11:21:01

What’s happened Callistemon? Whatever it is , get well soon.

I’m about to make a coffee victoria sandwich, ready for our barbecue tomorrow.

TillyTrotter Sat 02-Jul-22 11:22:29

I too did not realise you were laid up Callistemon.
Get mobile soon ?

CleoPanda Sat 02-Jul-22 11:28:44

Lard! Gross animal fat.
Lard is made from 100 percent animal fat (usually pork) that has been separated from the meat. Most lard is made through a process called rendering, whereby the fatty parts of the pig (such as the belly, butt, and shoulder) are cooked slowly until the fat is melted. This fat is then separated from the meat. Once chilled, lard will solidify into a smooth, opaque substance that may or may not have a lingering pork taste, depending on how it's processed.
Oh yuk!

Callistemon21 Sat 02-Jul-22 11:30:00

Thank you all!

I am scooting around on an office chair, damaging the paintwork, spending too much time on GN ?

Glorianny Sat 02-Jul-22 11:30:58

Always use Trex (that's once a year for mince pies!)

maddyone Sat 02-Jul-22 11:32:51

CleoPanda, you have expressed my feelings about lard exactly. Disgusting stuff that will clog up your arteries.

nanna8 Sat 02-Jul-22 11:34:21

Get well soon Callistemon

Yammy Sat 02-Jul-22 11:36:51

GrandmaSeaDragon

At Secondary school in the 60s, I remember the short crust pastry recipe was for half butter, half lard. Later on, I remember using half butter, half Trex. Nowadays, it’s ready made - good enough for Mary Berry, good enough for me!

I'm with you on that one except for mincepies then I use Mary Berry's all butter and icing sugar.
My parents made chips with beef dripping now you pay premium for triple cooked Dripping chips!hmm

MissAdventure Sat 02-Jul-22 11:57:58

I don't think there is any evidence that lard actually does clog arteries, any more than any other form of fat.

H1954 Sat 02-Jul-22 12:01:38

The only time I ever buy lard is in the winter months when I make bird seed cakes for the bird table.

MissAdventure Sat 02-Jul-22 12:02:39

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maddyone Sat 02-Jul-22 12:08:11

That’s interesting MA I’m obviously behind the times in my thinking. I wonder why drs give give us statins? I have read they’re not beneficial to most people but drs keep prescribing them. I’ve also read the big culprit for blocked up arteries is sugar.
I’m still not going back to lard though, but I do love butter.

MissAdventure Sat 02-Jul-22 12:12:51

I don't understand it all myself, maddy.
Perhaps it's a "catch all" way of telling people not to sit stuffing their faces with food thats not good for them, in a way they understand?

It's all a mystery to me, really.

It is worth checking out how thinking changes, though, over the years.

MerylStreep Sat 02-Jul-22 12:28:48

MissAdventure
I can attest to that evidence. Many years ago when my cholesterol was ( probably still is) 9.6) my Dr suggested statins.
We had a long talk about them as I’m against them.
I promised him that I would stick to the no more than 20gm of saturated fat per day. I did this for 3 months. It came down 2 points.
Then he told me he doesn’t believe in statins neither does my dietitian friend.

MissAdventure Sat 02-Jul-22 12:46:12

That bears out advice to eat healthily - plenty of fruit, veg, with a limit on processed items.
Not too much fat (of any kind) or sugar, and little alcohol.
I suppose some people need it spelled out more bluntly. me, for one smile