Vegan/Plant Based Do you ever wonder about the animals you eat eat.

Yammy

I think if someone has found a cure for cancer by turning Vegan I think we would know about it. They would have had to publish papers and research done into them before they could be released to the General public.

Have you looked?
These papers can be sat on by bodies whose interests lie in
doing so.
There is alot of research showing the benefits of plant based,
unfortunately changing your diet is not a popular idea.

a recent book, the meat paradox, is very good in relation to eating meat,it was on radio 4 recently, worth a read.

I’ve been vegan for four years but have recently added more dairy as a result of concerns about calcium. We began for health and environmental reasons. I agree with the first post in this thread.
I retired at the same time as we went vegan and have been able to cook properly and always with vitamin rich ingredients. The only supplements we take are B12, sea kelp for iodine and flaxseed for omega 3,6 and 9. We rarely get colds and feel we eat a wide range of meals. I rarely cook the same meal twice. There are so many lovely recipes in books and online. I have never missed meat or fish.

So much hostility to vegans! Chill out people. One could almost deduce that eating meat increases aggression in humans

Simple answer ….I don’t eat them.

Who's being hostile?

And for the meat eaters who don't like people telling them they're vegan/vegetarians (again and again was the phrase used earlier) - believe me I got more people making fun of me being vegetarian, more people telling me I should eat meat as humans are omnivores, telling me if I want plant based meat substitute I should just eat meat etc etc etc - than you will EVER hear someone say the word vegan/vegetarian in your lifetime!

My experience too. I only ever tell anyone I am vegan if they ask

Blondiescot

Who's being hostile?

As opposed to passive-aggressive, you mean?

I have tried very hard to not read the replies as I know many people are anti vegan so not prepared to risk reading comments from said people.
I’ve been a vegan for 6 years, mainly for the animals but my health has improved since giving up dairy.
The dairy industry is absolutely shocking,!!
There’s no need to be lacking in certain vitamins etc if you follow a sensible diet and do some research. I have a private blood test every 6 months and thankfully am not lacking in anything.
The way these poor animals are treated just so people can eat them is disgusting.
However I never judge or dictate to people. I used to eat meat, fish and dairy, it took me many years to realise that these animals have just as much right than I have to live a good life.

volver3

Blondiescot

Who's being hostile?

As opposed to passive-aggressive, you mean?

Yawn...

Personally I love a lot of vegan and vegetarian food and choose this option when eating out.
However I’m pretty lazy and will eat anything going, so cook everything and anything that’s simple. Which I don’t think vegan/ vegetarian is.
Each to his own really just live and let live.

Riverwalk I was reading all the posts and it began to annoy me!
I would like to be vegan but would miss cheese and eggs too much.

I listed a few vegan celebs because of all the comments suggesting that somehow a vegan diet is lacking in nutrients and by eating no flesh you wouldn't be able to function. The successful sportspeople suggest otherwise.

Each to his own really just live and let live.

I think that’s exactly the point vegans would like to make dogsmother.

I guess if we all go vegan we won't have to worry about cruelty to animals because, except for animals in the wild, there won't be any.

A few years ago I decided not to eat meat. As a result I became very anaemic (have always tended to be anaemic). Iron tablets caused constipation and after eating meat for ninety years missed it.
So I am now enjoying my meat and two veg and iron levels normal.
I don’t eat these trendy things like pizza.

Lizbethann55

I guess if we all go vegan we won't have to worry about cruelty to animals because, except for animals in the wild, there won't be any.

That's the point

How do you know that plants don't have a different nervous system to animals and can't feel.itvwhen they are pulled from their roots. Science is discovering new things every day. Its nature for species to eat other species. If anyone esnt to be a vegetarian or vegan it's their choice but don't try and put the guilt on others.

They don't have brains.

Next?

The plants, obviously. Not the vegans!

Become a Jain. Been around for significantly longer than Christianity.

Jains don’t eat root vegetables such as potatoes, onions, roots and tubers, because tiny life forms are injured when the plant is pulled up and because the bulb is seen as a living being, as it is able to sprout. Also, consumption of most root vegetables involves uprooting & killing the entire plant.

Jain adherents walk with a broom to sweep clear the ground before they tread on it. This is done to avoid treading on insects and other small organisms, as this is seen as "treading on souls". Also wear a mask to inadvertently inhaling small creatures.

DO NO HARM.

Nan99 It is the animals and the suffering they go through on Factory Farms.

There is an easy solution to that problem eat meat that isn't factory farmed. You can eat organic or Pasture for Life meat. Both come from systems that respect the animal and its natural habits, feed them only their natural foods and ensure that death comes as quickly and easily as possible.

^ When you think of the billions of animals on this planet that are raised and killed for food each year, you may scratch your head and wonder why we have this inefficient system of producing food.^

There is a very simple explanation. Over a third of the land surface in the UK is unsuitable for growing crops, itis too wet, too dry, too steep, too infertile. A host of reasons - and ths applies world wide. However almost all this land will grow grass and animal rearing is actually the best and most efficient way out of turning grass into food edible by humans.

I'm neither vegan nor vegetarian although I do eat meat free meals on a regular basis as I like the taste - the same reason I eat meat. As a former farmer, I find the sweeping generalisations of the "disgusting" way farm animals are treated quite abhorrent , as I'm sure any caring member of the agricultural industry would. We are not all meat/milk barons with thousands of animals, there are still plenty who lovingly tend their animals from birth to death, giving them names and caring for them as well as they possibly can. I realise it's cool & trendy to be vegan and the industry is doing its best to promote the lifestyle - of course it is, it's in its own interests. It does make me laugh to see vegan food pretending to be meat though - why?? If it6s that good, it shouldn't need to pretend to be something it's not. I'm afraid I can appreciate a lamb in the field or on the plate, I love milk and there's nothing to beat a good steak.

Its great that you looked after your animals in a moral way.

How do we make sure all farming is done that way so that all 8 billion people on earth get to have animal-based food raised under good farming practices?

So I’m neither vegan nor veggie and I respect those who are for their choices. I try to always purchase meat and animal products ethically, use local butchers and have cut back on red meat.

No I wouldn’t eat my dog or cat ! And yes I feed them raw meat products.

I wish (some) vegans and veggies would respect my choices and I’ve been called a murdered more than once for my stance on eating and using animal products (I wear leather, wouldn’t dream of wearing real fur)

I genuinely believe that all things in moderation and actually have female veggie friends who’ve started eating small amounts of meat as they were missing out on some essential nutrients however my hospital consultant cousin, his wife and their two children are all vegans and all extremely fit and healthy as gave taken care to eat a very controlled , balanced well thought out diet, cycle everywhere and drink litres of water.

GOING vegetarian is good for the planet and does wonders for your sense of self-righteousness. Here’s what you’ll receive when you make the switch.

Abuse from meat eaters

Your new lifestyle will be taken personally by people who still graze on cows and pigs, so be prepared for some light-hearted jibes to come your way. Instead of letting their words roll off your ethically superior back, fight fire with fire and call them murderers. This will definitely make them change their cruel opinions.

A thank-you note from the animal kingdom

Once the last chunk of meat vacates your body, a note of thanks from the animal kingdom will drop through your letterbox. It’ll be indecipherable of course because they can’t hold a pencil and don’t know how to write, but it’s the thought that counts.

Permission to live however you want

Ditching meat is the best way a person can reduce their carbon footprint, meaning you can do whatever the f**k you want now, completely guilt-free. Nine long-haul flights a year? Knock yourself out. Don’t want to rinse plates before you put them in the dishwasher? You’ve earned that privilege. Greta Thunberg probably has a poster of you on her wall.

Chronic flatulence

Your new diet of beans and more beans will leave you bent double with trapped gas. Before long you’ll be letting rip constantly and creating a horrendous stink, which will take the shine off your high and mighty attitude somewhat. Much to the relief of everyone you know.

A packet of bacon rashers

Everyone says bacon is the food that will make you fall off the veggie wagon, so keep some in the fridge to build up your self-discipline. You could even try frying some in a pan to test your endurance, and maybe take a little nibble just to check that you definitely don’t miss it. How else are you supposed to know?