Vegan/Plant Based Do you ever wonder about the animals you eat eat.

Lizbethann55

I guess if we all go vegan we won't have to worry about cruelty to animals because, except for animals in the wild, there won't be any.

That's the point

A few years ago I decided not to eat meat. As a result I became very anaemic (have always tended to be anaemic). Iron tablets caused constipation and after eating meat for ninety years missed it.
So I am now enjoying my meat and two veg and iron levels normal.
I don’t eat these trendy things like pizza.

I guess if we all go vegan we won't have to worry about cruelty to animals because, except for animals in the wild, there won't be any.

Each to his own really just live and let live.

I think that’s exactly the point vegans would like to make dogsmother.

Riverwalk I was reading all the posts and it began to annoy me!
I would like to be vegan but would miss cheese and eggs too much.

I listed a few vegan celebs because of all the comments suggesting that somehow a vegan diet is lacking in nutrients and by eating no flesh you wouldn't be able to function. The successful sportspeople suggest otherwise.

Personally I love a lot of vegan and vegetarian food and choose this option when eating out.
However I’m pretty lazy and will eat anything going, so cook everything and anything that’s simple. Which I don’t think vegan/ vegetarian is.
Each to his own really just live and let live.

volver3

Blondiescot

Who's being hostile?

As opposed to passive-aggressive, you mean?

Yawn...

I have tried very hard to not read the replies as I know many people are anti vegan so not prepared to risk reading comments from said people.
I’ve been a vegan for 6 years, mainly for the animals but my health has improved since giving up dairy.
The dairy industry is absolutely shocking,!!
There’s no need to be lacking in certain vitamins etc if you follow a sensible diet and do some research. I have a private blood test every 6 months and thankfully am not lacking in anything.
The way these poor animals are treated just so people can eat them is disgusting.
However I never judge or dictate to people. I used to eat meat, fish and dairy, it took me many years to realise that these animals have just as much right than I have to live a good life.

Blondiescot

Who's being hostile?

As opposed to passive-aggressive, you mean?

And for the meat eaters who don't like people telling them they're vegan/vegetarians (again and again was the phrase used earlier) - believe me I got more people making fun of me being vegetarian, more people telling me I should eat meat as humans are omnivores, telling me if I want plant based meat substitute I should just eat meat etc etc etc - than you will EVER hear someone say the word vegan/vegetarian in your lifetime!

My experience too. I only ever tell anyone I am vegan if they ask

Who's being hostile?

Simple answer ….I don’t eat them.

So much hostility to vegans! Chill out people. One could almost deduce that eating meat increases aggression in humans

I’ve been vegan for four years but have recently added more dairy as a result of concerns about calcium. We began for health and environmental reasons. I agree with the first post in this thread.
I retired at the same time as we went vegan and have been able to cook properly and always with vitamin rich ingredients. The only supplements we take are B12, sea kelp for iodine and flaxseed for omega 3,6 and 9. We rarely get colds and feel we eat a wide range of meals. I rarely cook the same meal twice. There are so many lovely recipes in books and online. I have never missed meat or fish.

a recent book, the meat paradox, is very good in relation to eating meat,it was on radio 4 recently, worth a read.

Yammy

I think if someone has found a cure for cancer by turning Vegan I think we would know about it. They would have had to publish papers and research done into them before they could be released to the General public.

Have you looked?
These papers can be sat on by bodies whose interests lie in
doing so.
There is alot of research showing the benefits of plant based,
unfortunately changing your diet is not a popular idea.

When I was a young girl, there wasn’t a choice of what to eat.
I was glad to get something to eat as stepmother didn’t bother cooking.
I eat meat once a week. A traditional roast dinner which I enjoy.
Too much meat isn’t healthy, I know. But I manage mostly without it.
To be a true vegan, you shouldn’t wear leather shoes, belts etc.

I think if someone has found a cure for cancer by turning Vegan I think we would know about it. They would have had to publish papers and research done into them before they could be released to the General public.

Meryl and *Nan why not just move on to another thread - or is the OP not allowed to say anything you don't like or agree with?

omega1

I long for the day when meat can be produced in factories until then if we kept all the animals alive until they were very old we would still have to slaughter them as they couldn't be kept alive like we do with humans.

Meat is produced mainly by factory farming already if it isn't its called 'Organic'
Meat is now reared mainly on cereal. Cereal is made from
heavily non organic fields of no nutrional value soil and then
chemicaled into feed for animals to eat. Humans then eat
the meat from animals which have been injected with vaccines
galore and anti-biotics. Same goes for eggs and dairy.
The western diet of heavily processed food has led to the
increase in Cancers due to the input of thousands of chemicals
needed to keep processed foods from deteriorating.
I wouldn't bother arguing the Vegetarian versis meat eating because unless you eat organic its all full of chemicals.

Sugar is one of the principal agents of many diseases not just
diabetes. There are many YouTube videos on health eating.

Grammaretto

My first comment on this thread referred to all the successful Olympians and other sportspeople who are vegan.
How can anyone tell me they should be eating flesh!
I despair. You meateaters are just shutting your ears
I am not preaching by the way but I am astonished that you think a meat diet in this overcrowded world can be defended
You don't have to eat meat substitutes either. I seldom do.
Here are a few famous Vegans:
Lewis Hamilton, Benedict Cumberbatch,
Venus Williams, Miley Cyrus, Ariana Grande, Carl Lewis, Novak Djokovic

Just wonderin' why you're so het up, when you are not a vegan yourself!

And you're on a hiding to nothing by listing half a dozen celebrities who claim to be vegan as there will be so many more who are not vegan.

Omnivores are able to eat a wide range of foods and can therefore survive in far more situations than animals that depend on one or two specific things (eg pandas and bamboo, or koalas and eucalyptus). They don't have to eat everything on the menu to be healthy. We're perfectly well adapted to a diet without animal products.

My first comment on this thread referred to all the successful Olympians and other sportspeople who are vegan.
How can anyone tell me they should be eating flesh!
I despair. You meateaters are just shutting your ears
I am not preaching by the way but I am astonished that you think a meat diet in this overcrowded world can be defended
You don't have to eat meat substitutes either. I seldom do.
Here are a few famous Vegans:
Lewis Hamilton, Benedict Cumberbatch,
Venus Williams, Miley Cyrus, Ariana Grande, Carl Lewis, Novak Djokovic

My daughter was a vegan from a young age and then she became a vegetarian for about 20 years. She actually got quite sick because she had a limited diet and didn’t balance what she ate. Now she is a meat eater though she doesn’t eat a lot and mainly sticks to what she calls ‘white’ meat. She has a lot more energy I have to say. I think she didn’t have enough legumes when she was vegan, she got very anaemic.

I’m vegan because of the cruelty inflicted on animals during their lives and of course when they are being slaughtered.
I wear makeup daily so my first act of veganism (I know that’s probably not a word) was when I used to source beauty without cruelty products. I hated the thought of rabbits getting things dripped in their eyes to see the reactions.
I was with my DD in Boots 5 years ago and she was getting impatient with me looking at all the ingredients in the products and she says to me why are you doing this when you eat animals anyway. I realised how hypocritical I was being so I became vegetarian almost overnight.
I was veggie for two years before finding out about the level of cruelty that was also in the dairy industry so then I became vegan. I’ve been vegan for three years now and yes some of what I eat isn’t all that healthy but can non vegans honestly say that ALL they eat is? No of course they can’t.
I take Vitamin b12 and a multivitamin to make sure I’m not missing out.
Incidentally a friend of mine and also a colleague are both deficient in b12 needing injections, both are non vegan. Proving vegans don’t necessarily hold the monopoly on b12 deficiency.
I only tell people I’m vegan when it’s necessary for instance if I’ve been invited somewhere for food.
I obviously told my friends and family when I transitioned but I don’t preach about it. I don’t throw my hands in the air in horror when they discuss what meat they’re having for dinner that night. My lifestyle choice isn’t theirs but obviously they asked lots of questions at first so all that has been dealt with.
I have a pet dog Buddy (rescue) who isn’t vegan but loves vegetables and has to have his little bowl of raw veg when I’m peeling them. Both salad and root veg, he isn’t fussy he devours them both equally.
I still wear my doc martens boots as I can’t afford to get rid. The same for my second hand leather sofas I can’t afford new ones and of course they are dog friendly as when the Budster vomits his favourite place to do it is,yes you’ve guessed it… on my sofa! That’s not going to do a fabric one much good and even if it was protected by a throw you can’t guarantee that it won’t seep through.
I won’t apologise for the long post but I got carried away.