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Should beans be part of an English fry up? Should Yorkshire puddings be served with any roast?

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Sago Thu 28-Sept-23 10:24:11

I don’t think beans should go anywhere near a traditional English breakfast, all that sugary sauce spoils the flavours, and tinned tomatoes should be illegal on a fry up!

Also it seems to be increasingly popular to serve Yorkshire pudding with any roast, when the beef is resting and the magnificent puddings come out of the oven is a glorious moment.
I think they should be preserved for beef only

having said that if someone else prepared them and served them with lamb for instance then I would feel city bound to eat them😉.

Theexwife Thu 28-Sept-23 15:37:21

GloriannyI am sure I will be considered rather boring in my breakfast choice. Since I was a child I have had 2 slices of toast and marmalade every day, the type of bread can vary. I could not stand the smell of cooking in the morning.

I used to eat meat so have had sausages or bacon and obviously had beans, tomatoes etc. but not all together.

Callistemon21 Thu 28-Sept-23 15:36:59

A couple of hotels we stayed in served the baked beans in a ramekin so they didn't get mixed up with the rest of the breakfast.

Sausage and mash with baked beans - comfort food!

Glorianny Thu 28-Sept-23 15:27:19

Cheesy beans on toast was a favourite lunch for my DCs

Have you really never had a cooked breakfast Theexwife? I always think it's one of the best things about staying in a hotel.

M0nica Thu 28-Sept-23 15:24:15

Louella12 What a great idea, I think a Yorkshire pudding would taste really nice with a cooked breakfast.

sharon103 Thu 28-Sept-23 15:01:21

GrannyGravy13

It’s the 21st century, surely we can have beans if we want, as for Yorkshire puddings if I fancy a yorkie with roast pork/chicken/lamb or even Christmas roast turkey I will have one.

One of my favourite Saturday morning breakfasts is baked beans on toast sprinkled with grated cheese yummy.

Oh yes. Me too Granny Gravy.

Theexwife Thu 28-Sept-23 14:46:50

I have never had a cooked breakfast, I could not face cooking it or eating it in the morning.

I am not a meat eater but I really like Yorkshire pudding and have it with veg and gravy, sometimes I will have it after a meal with syrup on.

silverlining48 Thu 28-Sept-23 14:16:18

Cheaper than Aldi?

Louella12 Thu 28-Sept-23 14:08:33

I love Yorkshire Puddings. Home made of course.

However I can eat them with anything. I should try some with a cooked breakfast!

With beans but only m&s beans. Which apart from being the best beans ever they are also the cheapest

SueDonim Thu 28-Sept-23 14:07:13

I found my Dh eating macaroni pudding for breakfast today so I don’t think my opinion on this topic would be valid. grin

Anyway
I’m not a huge fan of a cooked breakfast. I have a Weetabix every morning with two coffees and that’s me. I prefer hotels where you can pay separately for breakfast because I just don’t eat it, though Dh has his fill. Having said which, I once stayed at a country hotel in the Lake District which offered tomatoes on toast for breakfast and that was delicious.

People can eat what they want when they want, as far as I’m concerned, so long as they don’t make other folks share their likes/dislikes!

There is a funny book by Felicity Cloake, the food writer, on British breakfasts. It’s interesting , too, with info on how various areas came to have their own version of things. She’s written an even funnier book about eating croissants in France.

www.theguardian.com/books/2022/jun/15/red-sauce-brown-sauce-by-felicity-cloake-review-great-british-breakfast-regional-hogs-pudding-honey?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

M0nica Thu 28-Sept-23 13:54:35

I can think of absolutely no reason why beans, or tinned spaghetti, prunes or peaches should not be served with a cooked breakfast, if that is what someone wants, A fried breakfast is really just a random collection of food that will cook in a frying pan.

The modern cooked breakfast is just that, a modern recreation of a meal that never existed in its current form. As a child a cooked breakfast meant a fried egg, a rasher of bacon OR a suasage and a small piece of fried bread and no more.

Yes, a Yorkshire pudding customarily went with roast beef in Yorkshire. If you want to be purist, it should not be served outside Yorkshire. Elsewhere all joints were served with a boiled pudding of some kind, or to be precise the pudding (including Yorkshire) was served before the meat.

If you read Charlotte Bronte's novel Shirley the squire in there says to one of his children 'No pudding without broth, no meat without pudding.' meaning you had a bowl of soup and then a slice of pudding to be eaten before you got to the point in the meal where you were served meat. The first two courses blunted your apetite so that a small quantity of meat could give a satisfactory meal to a large family.

Both meals, a modern cooked breakfast or roast beef with a yorkshire pudding are essentially entirely modern adaptions of traditional meals So eat what you like with whatever you like and only follow the so called 'rules' if you want to.

kittylester Thu 28-Sept-23 13:50:54

Bella23

Personally no beans or tinned toms for breakfast and Yorkshire pudding only with Beef. I had a relation who served the pudding first with Beef Gravy and then the roast and Vegetables.
These days I think anything anyone wants goes. Though we only have Yorkshire pudding with Beef.

That was how it was originally served- filling up on Yorkshire pud and there eating less meat. Xx

Oldnproud Thu 28-Sept-23 13:42:02

Kittycat

Yorkshire pudding only with beef? What about Toad in the hole? Where would I put my sausages? ! 😉

😁

Visgir1 Thu 28-Sept-23 13:41:59

Beans for me at Breakfast, but not with Eggs that's a strange combination.
Yorkshire's, only served with Beef when DD and DS are at home with their families, then they are frozen ones. Never made one in my life, always thought they were a odd item to eat.
I have never eaten Toad in the hole either, another strange concoction IMO.

Oldnproud Thu 28-Sept-23 13:39:37

Sago

I don’t think beans should go anywhere near a traditional English breakfast, all that sugary sauce spoils the flavours, and tinned tomatoes should be illegal on a fry up!

Also it seems to be increasingly popular to serve Yorkshire pudding with any roast, when the beef is resting and the magnificent puddings come out of the oven is a glorious moment.
I think they should be preserved for beef only

having said that if someone else prepared them and served them with lamb for instance then I would feel city bound to eat them😉.

I have no strong feelings either way regarding baked beans, but Yorkshire puddings have always been served with any roast in my Yorkshire family for as far back as my mum can remember, so certainly back in her grandparents' time. In fact, they can be served with any meat served with gravy, so also served with things like liver and onions! Why ever not? 😕 😁

dogsmother Thu 28-Sept-23 13:30:34

Each to their own say I !

Kittycat Thu 28-Sept-23 13:23:41

Yorkshire pudding only with beef? What about Toad in the hole? Where would I put my sausages? ! 😉

eazybee Thu 28-Sept-23 13:23:17

I don't like baked beans or tinned tomatoes, (too much juice) so I wouldn't have them with a cooked (grilled not fried) breakfast, and I only serve Yorkshire puddings with roast beef, but it is a matter of choice.

Aveline Thu 28-Sept-23 13:20:23

I hate gravy! Don't like the way it contaminates everything on the plate

Cabbie21 Thu 28-Sept-23 13:14:57

A Full English in a B& B probably” should” not serve baked beans but if they offer them as an option, who’s to say they are wrong? Personally I might add beans, but then I wouldn’t eat mushrooms or fried bread or hash browns. Definitely not tinned tomatoes.

I only make Yorkshire puddings with beef, but if someone else makes them I gladly eat them with any meal, especially if my son has made them. His are incredible!
Should does not come into it.

Mushy peas or baked beans with fish and chips, anyone?

Pammie1 Thu 28-Sept-23 12:30:51

ginny

"Madam, I have been looking for a person who dislikes gravy all my life. Let us swear eternal friendship"

I don’t mind a little gravy but can’t stand it when the meal is swimming in it. I always ask for the gravy to be served in a small jug so I can it it where needed.

I agree. I love gravy, specially made properly with the meat juices from the pan, but I always serve it in a jug so people cam help themselves. I hate my meal swamped in it - it’s really off putting.

Aveline Thu 28-Sept-23 12:30:06

No and no

Pammie1 Thu 28-Sept-23 12:29:34

Foxygloves

I don’t think there is any should about it.
Have beans hash browns, black pudding, square sausage or anything you want.
And given that Yorkshire pudding was originally devised to help fill you up and so “stretch” the meat available - why ever not?
Delicious on its own with gravy!

Left over Yorkshire pud ink our house gets served up with sugar and lemon juice - similar to pancakes.

basicallygrace12 Thu 28-Sept-23 12:26:20

if you go to breakfast at our local Toby carvery they serve Yorkshire puddings with breakfast! Not sure if this is just a Yorkshire thing? But doesn't appeal to me.
Beans, in my opinion, should not be served at all, but love a Yorkshire with a roast. My ex, Sheffield born, always insisted the yorkshire and gravy got served as a first course on Christmas day.

ginny Thu 28-Sept-23 12:24:23

"Madam, I have been looking for a person who dislikes gravy all my life. Let us swear eternal friendship"

I don’t mind a little gravy but can’t stand it when the meal is swimming in it. I always ask for the gravy to be served in a small jug so I can it it where needed.

Witzend Thu 28-Sept-23 12:17:24

A student landlady of mine (in Yorkshire) used to serve the Yorkshire pud - with sultanas in! - as a first course, with gravy.

I found it very odd at first, but it was very nice.

I don’t see anything wrong with YPs with any roast, if that’s what people like. How people manage them for Christmas dinner, though, with all the sundry veg and sides to think of, I don’t know. (That’s home made of course, not Bessie’s).