What’s left?

Thanks for all your replies.
Vegetarian = no meat or fish.
Healthy diet = as few Ultra Processed Foods as possible, so no Quorn.

I agree vegetarians eat no meat and no fish.

True Gilly!
I suppose more people understand these days than they did in the 1970s though!

There is no confusion, it’s as plain as day. Vegetarian = no meat or fish. Going vegan won’t solve the problem either, the questions are even more ludicrous

Kamj

Vegetarians do not eat fish.. This really grates me when people say they're vegetarians but eat fish,
Though when I say I'm a vegetarian and asked if I eat fish grates me too...

I am vegetarian and in the past (not recently) have been asked if I eat chicken - i.e. fowl.

Sorry to disagree yet again. That may be your view but it is not my experience. If it grates, tough - it’s not an unreasonable question. Perhaps you should become a vegan to avoid confusion.

Vegetarians do not eat fish.. This really grates me when people say they're vegetarians but eat fish,
Though when I say I'm a vegetarian and asked if I eat fish grates me too...

OP, I agree with PPs that you don’t need to worry about fats, as long as you are eating healthy fats and not to excess.

I eat low carb all the time (on medical advice), and I did lose weight when I started the diet, without trying and without feeling hungry. I don’t restrict fats. Fat fills you up and stops you feeling hungry. I wonder if not enough fat is one reason that you feel that your diet is not satisfying. Nuts are fine on a low carb diet, in small amounts, and very healthy.

I also agree with PPs that Tim Spector is great. I think his videos and podcasts are very helpful.

Personally I wouldn’t eat Quorn or protein shakes, because they are ultra processed foods which are likely to damage your microbiome.

Have you tried yogurt or kefir made with soya milk? These contain protein from the live bacteria in them as well as from the soya.

I can recommend 100% cocoa chocolate if you haven’t tried it. It’s quite satisfying and really good for the microbiome (it contains polyphenols that beneficial microorganisms feed on).

Have you thought about intermittent fasting? I haven’t tried this but some people seem to have good results with it. There is information about it on Tim Spector’s Zoe YouTube channel.

Avocados and eggs are good for you and filling.

She doesn’t like the texture of meat - never has. It’s only recently that she has been able to eat some fish. That is why I say she’s vegetarian - I can’t serve her a meat dish but she
will eat some kinds of fish (not shellfish because of the texture). So she’s not a pescatarian.

She’s a pescatarian.

I fear she doesn’t know the definition of the word, GSM.

Germanshepherdsmum

So is my daughter in law, but like many vegetarians she eats fish.

So she's not a vegetarian!!

My vegetarian daughter in law eats fish!

Gillycats

If someone is vegetarian then they do not ever eat fish or poultry, but do eat dairy.

Yes, that’s the Vegetarian Society definition (and they’ve been using the word since 1847!)

Vegetarians eat eggs and dairy products but not fish or poultry.

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Sorry, I thought I'd written the above as a new subject - but obviously not!!

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I read an article in The Times about a three weeks ago regarding Apple Cider Vinegar as a supplement and diet add.

Looked up reviews on Amazon, which were good so bought the capsule version (with 'Mother') @ £11:99 for 90 x 3660mg tablets. Buyers didn't recommend the liquid as not good for your teeth.

I take two tablets a day with food and a pint of water and have just had to go to M&S to buy new knickers as my present ones are now in danger of falling down!! (I never weigh).

I'm going to keep going but I'm wondering if anyone else here has tried Apple Cider Vinegar as a dieting aid and, if do, what their experience regarding results have been.

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Gillycats - yes you are correct. Someone who eats fish but not meat is a pescaterian, not a vegetarian.

If someone is vegetarian then they do not ever eat fish or poultry, but do eat dairy.

Resistant starch feed the good bacteria in your gut

No, cc I don't think that's it - just copied this from my link above:

when starchy foods are cooled their structure is reorganised again and the digestive enzymes in your gut can’t break them down as easily. The food now contains more ‘resistant starch’, which is not broken down and essentially becomes fibre.

(I was a guinea pig for a Phd student in the early 2000's who was investigating the Glycemic Index. I'd be given a simple lunch to eat and had to tell them which meals kept me full for longer. They did blood tests throughout he process to assess my blood sugar).

NotSpaghetti

All carbohydrates are easier/lighter if chilled or frozen first.

Pre-cook potatoes, pasta etc. and reheat.
There is science behind it but can't remember it. To do with chilling - you "use" less carbs.

I always understood that your system could only digest the "resistant" carbohydrates more slowly.

Instead of wholewheat pasta pasta made with pulses or beans are better, and available from even the budget supermarkets
I'd suggest looking at the free resources from the Fresh well GPs surgery, all available as downloads, including vegan and budget options, they also have an app you can download
While you don't want to go mad with oils and fats, it is suggested that you avoid low fat items, instead go for full fat milk and yoghurt, fats and proteins fill you up.
lowcarbfreshwell.com/

Chick peas. I don't like them, lol, but put them in my daily salad and roast them with paprika shaken on for snacking