Chicken breast with a huge carbon footprint..

Dandylion

Of course! Now that we’ve left the EU we don’t have first world food standards any more …. Bad for us not knowing what we’re eating ~ but much worse for the animals whose horrible living conditions we are encouraging with our trade. Well done UK!

Evidently you’re not aware of Denmark’s huge-scale factory farming, especially of pigs. Presumably the EU dare not legislate against it - it wouldn’t just be Denmark up in arms. I dare say other EU countries are similar - I see plenty of relatively cheap pork, ham and gammon from Germany and the Netherlands, too.

We don’t eat it very often, but I have to go to Waitrose or M&S for higher-welfare U.K. reared pork.

Gundy

Really, when it comes to standards… not for EU… reading the label… would you EVER buy chicken coming from Thailand??

Standards have a lot to do with food safety. Locally/regionally sourced food products seem safer to me as you can follow and read up on those companies.

Food prices across the board are obscenely high. Corporate price gouging. Doesn’t seem like they want to change their practices and keep sticking it to the people. Grrr

No, food prices are not obscenely high, at least in the UK. On the contrary food is far too cheap, this is why the quality of our food is getting worse and worse, cjhickens from Thailand, more and more UPF based food, because it is cheaper to make from poorer quality igredients.

In 1950 30% of household incomes were spent on food. In 2022 it was 12%. People complain about the NHS and how poor its service is, but most of the illnesses it is treating are the result of people wanting the food they eat to be as cheap as possible, regardless of quality and feels no responsibility to look after their own health by eating a healthy good quality diet.

{Disclaimer: I am aware that for those on the smallest incomes poverty limits their food choices, but for the majority of households money is not the issue, decisions on how money is spent are within the remit of the household, less on clothes, for example, and more on food.

This is very expensive, but I’m thinking of buying it cooking it and then cutting it up into portions to have with jacket potatoes..
I do trust M&S food, whereas Tesco’s obviously not, not anymore..
And if I think of what I would pay for a meal out even in Wetherspoon,I think this could work out to be not such such a bad deal as I could get several portions of chicken, which would equate to probably at least four meals..🤷‍♀️

I would nevdr buy meat, chicken ot dairy from Tesco. That picture shows you they are not bothered.

twiglet77

Chicken from Thailand? No thanks. British, organic and ideally from the butcher at one of our super local farm shops. Of course it’s so expensive it’s then a rare purchase, but I’d really rather go without than eat poultry reared in Asia.

I agree twiglet

Chicken from Thailand? No thanks. British, organic and ideally from the butcher at one of our super local farm shops. Of course it’s so expensive it’s then a rare purchase, but I’d really rather go without than eat poultry reared in Asia.

Wyllow3

Wheniwasyourage

Romola

My understanding is that animal welfare standards in the UK are actually higher than those in most of the EU.

I understand that Denmark is particularly bad for standards of welfare for pigs.

I found it really very difficult to get up to date information on relative animal food standards in EU and UK, could you give me your references please? (they seem to be changing rules 23/24 as part of us leaving)

Sorry, Wyllow3, I'm guilty of passing on hearsay and can't give you any references. I have heard this about Denmark for some time though, and I believe, but am prepared to be corrected, that they have more pigs reared inside and fewer outdoor pigs than we have.

Really, when it comes to standards… not for EU… reading the label… would you EVER buy chicken coming from Thailand??

Standards have a lot to do with food safety. Locally/regionally sourced food products seem safer to me as you can follow and read up on those companies.

Food prices across the board are obscenely high. Corporate price gouging. Doesn’t seem like they want to change their practices and keep sticking it to the people. Grrr

People don’t want to pay the price. When I think back to the 60s the food bill took a big chunk of my wages, no money to eat out, now cheap food is imported. I am surprised when I come to visit in England, how cheap food is. That being said I don’t look at supermarket meat here, so I don’t know the price, as I always buy at the market

What can't understand is that if UK production standards are high, how come we can import and sell substandard stuff? (Dont mean organic or specialty, but ordinary sales)

Romola

My understanding is that animal welfare standards in the UK are actually higher than those in most of the EU.

Brexit laws, this packet of meat was packed in the GB and meant to be sold in the UK and NI, not for EU export.

EU doesn’t want the US bleached chicken nor beef hormone.

Wheniwasyourage I remember learning about the factory farming of pigs in Denmark in the early 60s. We were taught that it was the modern way of farming.

Wheniwasyourage

Romola

My understanding is that animal welfare standards in the UK are actually higher than those in most of the EU.

I understand that Denmark is particularly bad for standards of welfare for pigs.

I found it really very difficult to get up to date information on relative animal food standards in EU and UK, could you give me your references please? (they seem to be changing rules 23/24 as part of us leaving)

Romola

My understanding is that animal welfare standards in the UK are actually higher than those in most of the EU.

I understand that Denmark is particularly bad for standards of welfare for pigs.

Tesco have been selling chicken wraps and ready meals made with chicken from Thailand for years. I have complained before (and mentioned it on GN, come to that) and been fobbed off. We don’t buy meat from Tesco or any supermarket, but then we do have 2 good butchers in our small town.

Skydancer

M0nica

But organic chickn is very expensive and the cost of 2 per person, is eye watering.

Organic meat seems expensive but it isn’t pumped full of water or anything else so doesn’t shrink when cooked.

I buy it, but the cost of serving DH 3 chicken thighs would be so expensive, we limit ourselves to one chicken thigh each. As you so rightly say, Skydancer organic meat does not shrink the way industrial produced meat, of all kinds does.

Pigloos - love it! 😂

My understanding is that animal welfare standards in the UK are actually higher than those in most of the EU.

M0nica

But organic chickn is very expensive and the cost of 2 per person, is eye watering.

Organic meat seems expensive but it isn’t pumped full of water or anything else so doesn’t shrink when cooked.

No we should all eat less chicken I’m afraid, and in fact all meat.

Farzanah

We get what we pay for I’m afraid. Whilst whole chickens are available in most supermarkets for £3 to £4 animal welfare will never be prioritised.

When I was a child chickens were a rare treat, not eaten every week.

I know, and those awful people who can’t afford the more expensive ones should obviously do without, do you think?

We get what we pay for I’m afraid. Whilst whole chickens are available in most supermarkets for £3 to £4 animal welfare will never be prioritised.

When I was a child chickens were a rare treat, not eaten every week.

We are eating less meat and so I buy free range chicken which is often more than twice the price of the cheapest chicken. A friend, whose income is much larger than mine, still buys the cheapest chicken despite getting upset over a programme about factory farming.

When we lived in England I worked for about a year for a company that produced pork. The pigs were reared by farmers - some had sows and piglets which were then moved to other rearers to bring them on. The company employed 3 vets who came up with ways of preventing them from becoming bored (toys). Many were reared outdoors and pigloos were a common sight, often sows with their babies.

Although we see many cows and calves reared outdoors where I now live, sadly we don't see any out door pigs.

We only buy whole British chickens and roast them. We use any left over meat after the roast dinner in curries, risotto, chicken pies, sandwiches etc.

petra

It has nothing to do with standards. My milk has it on the carton.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62rnmr1lr8o#:~:text=The%20%22Not%20for%20EU%22%20labels,stop%20supplying%20products%20to%20NI.

Worthwhile reading this explanation.