unfortunately sugar is cheaper than fresh fruit and vegetables. 3 years ago i paid over £1 for 2 apples yet I could have bought 4 chocolate bars for £1 .
Madness
and before anybody tells me my reply is on the wrong thread - please remember that many children go without breakfast and have to buy crisps or chocolate bars
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Porridge and crumpets are junk food
(142 Posts)According to the latest government paper governing when foodstuffs can be advertised on tv www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgrwzx8er9o
Considering many children walk down streets where junk food shops and take aways are ubiquitous and for many are where their parents buy food. Not to mention that children go into supermarkets of all kinds with their parents, who buy most of the food they eat, is banning food adverts from television really going to have any effect on children's eating habits.
I am reminded of the sugar tax. It was intended to reduce the sugar conten tof drinks so that they would be less sweet and peole would gradually begin to prefer foods with less sugar.
What actually happened is that manufacturers replaced the sugar with artificial sweeteners, making the drinks sweeter than ever.
All that will happen this time is that manufacturers will remove fat and sugar rom products, replace them with sweeteners and other ultra processed chemicals that give food a fat feel, and we will e in the ame situation as we are with sugar reduced drinks, foods full of more and more chemical food substitutes, that are also contributors to weight gain.
For more information read any thing written by Chris Tulleken and Tim Spector on UPFs
AuntieE
And all of Scotland is sitting right now wondering what on earth SUGAR is doing in porridge?
Perfectly good porridge is made of oats, water, or milk and a little salt. And EATEN like that in many households, although some do eat a small spoonful of jam on their porridge.
Not just Scotland - I'd always make porridge with a pinch of salt.
Then spoil it all with a drizzle of honey on top.
There is my porridge and there is DSiL’s porridge. Mine is made of oats whereas his, although oats, is like highly sweetened baby powder food. It is mushy.
I have looked up it SiLs contents on the web they say there is no sugar as such just a touch of naturally sourced sweetener
See attached photos and make your mind up.
Mine has the French labeling system and has been give an A.☺️
AuntieE
And all of Scotland is sitting right now wondering what on earth SUGAR is doing in porridge?
Perfectly good porridge is made of oats, water, or milk and a little salt. And EATEN like that in many households, although some do eat a small spoonful of jam on their porridge.
I remember a friend got lost in the mountains in Scotland and had to take refuge in someone's croft overnight.. In the morning the crofter opened a drawer and cut him a slab of cold, salted porridge for breakfast..
And all of Scotland is sitting right now wondering what on earth SUGAR is doing in porridge?
Perfectly good porridge is made of oats, water, or milk and a little salt. And EATEN like that in many households, although some do eat a small spoonful of jam on their porridge.
It makes me chuckle, I am currently under a dietician for an esophagus problem and my main nutrition every day is made up of drinks in a little plastic bottle. 3 drinks contain 900 calories, and a massive 90g of sugar. horrifying but essential. I then add dairy free ice cream, yoghurt and milk, so more sugar. Never had a sweet tooth and always preferred savoury stuff before this.
On the plus side when I make a veggie soup now I no longer add salt, before this I was a salt fiend.
Plenty of dead badgers around here - we frequently see them lying at the side of the road, poor things.
Jaxjacky
I’ve never seen whole meal crumpets?
I think it's a bit of a thing like a giant Yorkshire pudding. It's just a massive, huge horrible chewy crumpet that tastes a bit like ummmm.... dead badger. 🥴
Maybe all food advertising get banned eventually. We are all perfectly capable of making decisions on what we want to eat without a 30 second commercial.
I know, I'm a suckered for a 'new' usually processed food.
I suppose golden suet dumplings on my beef casserole would banned too! 😉
I had an email from the dairy that delivers our milk saying that they will never buy milk from farmers using Bovea, even their non organic milk. My order is always organic milk as I’m very dubious about what dairy cows, poor things, are fed. Also only buy organic oats. I’m very aware that not everyone can afford to buy organic food which tends to be quite a lot more expensive.
I love a crumpet, an occasional treat, but only buy the skinny ones which I probably talk myself into thinking are less calorific even though I probably put just as much (organic) butter on them.
I agree that good adverts should be removed. Apart from children’s health adults are also affected. Studies have shown that when we see food we come hungry and overeat.
Here here MissInterpreted, totally agree, far worse to go hungry.
Here’s the Warburtons crumpet advert - definitely aimed at children.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=UNZ0L05klBQ&pp=ygUSI2Jpc2N1aXRhbmRjcnVtcGV0
I don’t remember ever seeing crumpets advertised on the TV.
I'm sure it'd be better for a child to have a crumpet for breakfast than go hungry...
Porridge is an excellent healthy start to the day - especially with blueberries and a tiny spoonful of local honey.Toasted crumpets are comforting ,and are fine if you don’t have more than two.They are certainly better than sugary cereals which are loade with calories and additives.
I was looking for medium oatmeal in the supermarkets recently to make skirlie for Christmas lunch. I was amazed at the huge selection of porridges on the shelves. Many were flavoured, and no doubt sweetened. In one supermarket, I saw fine oatmeal, which isn’t suitable for my purpose. I have been able to find it in the past, but not this year, so ended up buying it from Amazon.
I’ve never seen whole meal crumpets?
Unless oats are organic they are highly processed - mot traditional Porridge oats have no additives whatsoever but most of those on the supermarket shelves are not organic which means they have been subject to heavy use of pesticides. Heavy use of pesticides is correlated with dementia and Alzheimer's . If you add milk to that porridge and it's not from regenerative organic farming, then pretty soon it's likely to have come from cows fed with Bovea to reduce the methane in their cow farts and Bovea is demonstrated to contain several carcinogenic ingredients. So whilst it might make sense to say, oh it's only a little bit of insecticide coated porridge, it's only a little drop of carcinogenic milk maybe if people also thought that it's only a little bit of this, that and the other that's full of chemicals to preserve food or to give a nice foaming toothpaste, they might realise that actually they're subjecting themselves to a huge chemical load on a regular daily basis. And that's not just about sugar. As for the synthetic sweeteners - more chemicals.
Crumpets? Well, I love them and have just had two but the ingredients list is very worrying.
Try organic oats from your local health food shop. The taste is completely different to the boxed stuff and is delicious.
We are bombarded with information about healthy eating and most of it is obvious anyway. So if people decide to have takeaways and eat ultra-processed food it is because they themselves decide to do so. We don't need the government telling us what to eat. And I don't agree with those who say some people can't afford fruit & veg because it is often given away at foodbanks.
I was reading somewhere that the porridge refers to the ones that have stuff added to them to make them sweet etc. Not the proper unflavoured porridge oats. I can understand why crumpets are on there, white carbs that 90% of people slather an obscene amount of butter on and is a staple breakfast for many. Look at the bigger picture. They are trying not to promote high fat high sugar foods at peak times that's all 🙄
Nowt wrong with porridge, I've been having it for breakfast nearly all my life 83 years Left to soak in water overnight, small amount of milk added in the morning cooked and fresh fruit added it hasn't done me any harm - yet.
I have porridge oats everyday - as porridge in the winter and with yogurt when it’s warmer. I do go for the organic oats after listening to Tim Spectre about the amount of pesticides that oats absorb if not organic (strawberries are a similar issue) but absolutely the Zoe team and Tim’s work with peer reviewed scientists inputs on the podcast (which are free to listen too - you don’t have to be a member) has certainly changed my eating habits for the better. Ultra processed foods and artificial sweeteners are absolutely the work of the devil! The government really need to understand the latest research not the really outdated view of reducing fat and sugar being the primary objective.
I expect crumpets are in because they have a high salt content. I've just looked a t a packet and 2 crumpets contain 1.6 gms of salt. 5 or 6 gms is the recommended maximum daily intake. So crumpets, spread with salted butter 'could' contribute to a too high salt intake.
It's all a question of eating a balanced diet, really.
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