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Where can I get decent (real) bread?
(111 Posts)I just joined up after seeing a post written this time last year about where to get edible bread. You know, the stuff that comes in a proper loaf, doesn't sit in your stomach like a lead ball and doesn't destroy your gut with its added gluten. Last year's post recommended Waitrose, but to my dismay they have now stopped doing "real" bread in favour of heavy sourdough and those fancy breads with weird ingredients. I don't want cranberries or cheese in my bread. I can't digest "supermarket" bread.
Delila
I get a decent organic wholemeal seeded bloomer from Waitrose, but their unseeded version unfortunately seems to have been discontinued. Also, good bread is available from a small local bakery which supplies village shops.
Unfortunately the list of ingredientswanders a long way from flour, seeds, yeast and salt.
wholemeal wheat flour, water*, mixed seeds (19%) (sunflower seeds, golden linseed, millet, pumpkin seeds, poppy seeds), wheat gluten, barley malt extract, sunflower oil, yeast*, sea salt*, spirit vinegar, fortified wheat flour (wheat flour, calcium carbonate*, iron*, niacin*, thiamin*), wheat flour, flour treatment agent ascorbic acid*
Unfortunately most, if not all of the nice crusty unwrapped loaves you see on supermarket shelves will be processed and steam cooked to some extent. The loaves, afe finished off in a baking oven to get that nice crustiness.
To get 'real' bread, it has to be from a local artisan baker, or however they might describe themselves.
Looks like I missed a few posts earlier today, including the Peter Cooks suggestion. I'll make sure I do read them all. I have now bookmarked the Peter Cooks webpage for further investigation. It says £15 with no explanation. Is that a weekly, monthly delivery charge?
This thread has encouraged me to look up our nearest artisan venue. Looks/sounds great and would be on our way to the MacMillan centre on Fridays. Thank you! Who knew! 😁
flourandsoulbakery.co.uk/
FriedGreenTomatoes2
This thread has encouraged me to look up our nearest artisan venue. Looks/sounds great and would be on our way to the MacMillan centre on Fridays. Thank you! Who knew! 😁
flourandsoulbakery.co.uk/
I’ve just read their ‘about us’ story FGT. I made me smile.
In a good way Beechnut or is something wrong?
Definitely not where I live unless I make my own.
FriedGreenTomatoes2
In a good way Beechnut or is something wrong?
Nothing wrong. It was when they were saying what their names were. Although I don’t actually know how to pronounce the name I read it as I saw it.
FriedGreenTomatoes2
This thread has encouraged me to look up our nearest artisan venue. Looks/sounds great and would be on our way to the MacMillan centre on Fridays. Thank you! Who knew! 😁
flourandsoulbakery.co.uk/
Unfortunately it’s inspired me to bring up the breadmaker that’s been gathering dust in the cellar for months and buy all the ingredients to make my own delicious artisan bread.
Only to remember when it stopped halfway through exactly why the breadmaker’s been gathering dust. Just off to salvage my dough as best I can and google Panasonic and Lakeland machines.
Beechnut
FriedGreenTomatoes2
In a good way Beechnut or is something wrong?
Nothing wrong. It was when they were saying what their names were. Although I don’t actually know how to pronounce the name I read it as I saw it.
The children's names?
I wondered if they're pseudonyms, or do you think they are real?
I make a whole meal loaf that does nor require needing. It contains only flour, dried yeast, salt and water. It is a wartime recipe.
M0nica
Delila
I get a decent organic wholemeal seeded bloomer from Waitrose, but their unseeded version unfortunately seems to have been discontinued. Also, good bread is available from a small local bakery which supplies village shops.
Unfortunately the list of ingredientswanders a long way from flour, seeds, yeast and salt.
wholemeal wheat flour, water*, mixed seeds (19%) (sunflower seeds, golden linseed, millet, pumpkin seeds, poppy seeds), wheat gluten, barley malt extract, sunflower oil, yeast*, sea salt*, spirit vinegar, fortified wheat flour (wheat flour, calcium carbonate*, iron*, niacin*, thiamin*), wheat flour, flour treatment agent ascorbic acid*
Unfortunately most, if not all of the nice crusty unwrapped loaves you see on supermarket shelves will be processed and steam cooked to some extent. The loaves, afe finished off in a baking oven to get that nice crustiness.
To get 'real' bread, it has to be from a local artisan baker, or however they might describe themselves.
I think that’s the seeded half bloomer Monica, similar ingredients but a very different, wrapped, loaf.
This one is illustrated by an unwrapped loaf
Wholemeal wheat flour, water, wheat flour (wheat flour, calcium carbonate*, iron*, niacin*, thiamin*), mixed seeds (5%) (sunflower seeds, brown linseed), yeast*, sea salt*, wheat gluten, wafer label (potato starch, water, sunflower oil, colour (carbon)), flour treatment agent (ascorbic acid).
Still not brilliant.
Should have added Ascorbic acid is the giveaway as this is the additive used in the Chorley wood process
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chorleywood_bread_process
I think ascorbic acid is vitamin C
I've a book by the Fabulous Baker Boy's. One does meal-type stuff whilst the other is a fabulous Baker.
There are some brilliant recipes in their books for all sorts of bread, including some fab sour dough recipes with hints & tips.
Highly recommended.🙃
Anyway, for people who don’t have an artisan bakery near them I thought I’d recommend this as a decent alternative.
Allira
Beechnut
FriedGreenTomatoes2
In a good way Beechnut or is something wrong?
Nothing wrong. It was when they were saying what their names were. Although I don’t actually know how to pronounce the name I read it as I saw it.
The children's names?
I wondered if they're pseudonyms, or do you think they are real?
Crikey! Real I think. 😮
Poor lad.
Should have added Ascorbic acid is the giveaway as this is the additive used in the Chorley wood process
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chorleywood_bread_process
I find Hovis sliced loaf delicious ( sliced version) wholemeal.
It isn’t bitter and is easy to digest.
Delila
I think ascorbic acid is vitamin C
It is and it is added to bread so that the bread making process is speeded up, see my link above.
We have used a breadmaker (Panasonic) for years now; a few weeks ago I bought bread, and it was so sweet it was inedbile. Bread made in a machine is easy - a few minutes to throw the ingredients in, no stirring, at least half the price of shop bought bread so the machine pays for itself quickly.
Most importantly the ingredients are pure - yeast, bread flour, a tiny amount of salt and sugar, one ounce of butter, and water. No preservatives.
Inedible. I will get the hang of typing - or reading my efforts properly - one day.
I believe the flour used stirring bread up at home has higher protein, is healthier than the flour in store bread,. Store bread is made in machines, not by stirring flour into water with a spoon.
LovesBach
We have used a breadmaker (Panasonic) for years now; a few weeks ago I bought bread, and it was so sweet it was inedbile. Bread made in a machine is easy - a few minutes to throw the ingredients in, no stirring, at least half the price of shop bought bread so the machine pays for itself quickly.
Most importantly the ingredients are pure - yeast, bread flour, a tiny amount of salt and sugar, one ounce of butter, and water. No preservatives.
I had a Panasonic but it started making very odd noises and just stopped working.
It hasn't been replaced yet.
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