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I have another beef - this time about milk!

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Aely Sun 09-Feb-25 19:00:09

Homogenised milk is absolutely useless for a really good, thick, creamy rice pudding - which I love as a winter pud! It just doesn't thicken properly with homogenised whole milk. And what can I put on my porridge? Homogenised whole milk is ok in coffee and I use semi-skimmed in tea.

Have you noticed how rare it is to see non-homogonised milk on the Supermarket shelf now? A couple of years ago I had to stop having milk delivered as the dairy had gone online only and my computer was on its last legs. A darned nuisance as the nearest shop was at that time a bus ride away, but not so bad since an Aldi opened just up the road in a little mall that had previously only allowed clothes, furniture, electrical goods and similar shops. If I wanted whole milk with the cream on top I could still pop into town, to the supermarkets there when I had other reasons to go that way.

Problem is, quite recently the unhomogenised whole milk seems to have disappeared from the supermarkets. Even the more expensive brands, which weren't, have gone homogenised. Only Waitrose seems to stock any now and they only get one delivery a week, a few bottles which are gone in no time. Also, I have to go to the next town for Waitrose - and it isn't worth the journey now they don't sell real bread.

I have a new laptop, so I have looked at resuming milk deliveries. We have two providers now, one of which only sells homogenised. The other sells both - but the price! It was about 85p/pint when I stopped. Now it is £1.25. I don't mind paying extra for delivery, but that is ridiculous. Going online only was supposed to be to keep the price down.

What do you think? Will I have to make my famous rice puds with cornflour added to thicken them? I've tried adding a little butter but it doesn't seem to help and I don't want to buy cream to add as most of it would be wasted. What happened to buyer's choice? I know why it is all homogenised - shop shelf life is longer.

nanna8 Tue 11-Feb-25 07:53:30

Chocolatelovinggran

Rice pudding is the work of the devil- just saying....

You gave me a laugh. A couple of my kids would agree with you! I make bread and butter puds sometimes and those same 2 can’t stand them. The others love them.

wibblywobblywobblebottom Tue 11-Feb-25 14:20:00

I get my rice pud from Waitrose. It's lovely.

Indigo8 Tue 11-Feb-25 14:32:37

ayse That was unless the blue tits had had it all.
We used to have to leave old tea cups out for milkie to put on the milk bottles.

One morning we heard a terrific crash and when we went out, a large hedgehog had knocked over a bottle and was lapping up the spilt milk.

I haven't seen a blue tit or a hedgehog for years.sad

missdeke Tue 11-Feb-25 15:02:22

My mum's rice pudding was always made with sterilised milk as was her custard, always deliciously greamy. And she always made it on the top of the stove in a saucepan with frequent stirring. All this to stop a skin forming as my dad and sister didn't like it.

Nanny27 Tue 11-Feb-25 15:45:31

Norah
Love the sound of rice pudding made with coconut milk.
Do you make it the same way?

Granra2 Tue 11-Feb-25 15:57:33

I’ve never come across Graham’s Gold milk, probably something else not available in Northern Ireland along with Waitrose, Ocado, Aldi…

HiMay Tue 11-Feb-25 17:12:27

Buttermilk?

SuperTinny Tue 11-Feb-25 17:35:03

I use a small tin of evaporated milk and top it up to the required amount with powdered milk (made up).
I've done this for years and wouldn't do it any other way now!
Delicious............

Paperbackwriter Tue 11-Feb-25 17:47:28

dogsmother

Thankful to live in the channel isles and have the milk we do. The youngsters go off to uni and come home craving the same. Those that don’t leave don’t really know how lucky we are.

You can get it on the mainland in any Waitrose!

win Tue 11-Feb-25 18:04:17

I have absolutely no problem making a lovely fluffy rice pudding, do you cook it in the oven, perhaps you use too much milk, I use semi skimmed and it is perfect. Do you use pudding rice? probably obvious questions, so so many people do not

AuntieE Tue 11-Feb-25 18:46:19

If you cannot buy unhomogenised milk, use cream diluted either with skimmed milk, water or homogenised milk.
Aftee a few attempts you should get the mixture right for creamy rice pudding.

win Tue 11-Feb-25 21:25:58

I have even used some diluted left over clotted cream in the past but not too much as it separates.

Moth62 Wed 12-Feb-25 00:26:13

I have a recipe that uses condensed milk, yummy

Camry1952 Wed 12-Feb-25 00:50:52

You all made me hungry for rice pudding! Would anyone share your recipe for very creamy pudding? My recipe isn't as creamy and rich as I would like.

treatrecover Wed 12-Feb-25 02:31:27

Finding non-homogenized organic milk can be tricky these days, as most brands homogenize it. While Yeo Valley may have offered it in the past, I now prefer Berkeley Farm Organic for this. hill climb racing

Jane43 Wed 12-Feb-25 03:46:08

nanna8

My mil used to make lovely rice puds with evaporated milk from tins. I don’t make them myself so I can’t comment from experience but hers were really nice and creamy
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I have always used evaporated milk to make rice pudding or custard, I add an equal amount of full fat milk or sterilized milk to the evaporated milk and get a lovely, creamy rice pudding or custard.

Grammaretto Wed 12-Feb-25 05:29:27

We are lucky and can buy non homogenised milk from the Isle of Gigha. Highly recommended.

weeisledairy.co.uk/

LilyFloori Wed 12-Feb-25 05:49:42

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JackyB Wed 12-Feb-25 10:14:23

Here in Germany, the milk culture is very different and took a lot of getting g used to.

Since I moved here in the mid-70s, I have never seen any milk that is not homogenised. Gold or silver top was just not a thing. Recently an organic milk which has cream separate has become available in supermarkets but it is very expensive.

Milk was rarely served back in those days. People ate rolls or bread for breakfast. Cereal was unknown. They would put evaporated milk in coffee or if they were posh they might use a special kind of "coffee cream" which was similar to single cream. this was sold in tiny packets or, in cafes, in little individual portion packs (I needed at least three to get the coffee to a bearable colour).

Tea - which first and foremost meant a herbal infusion - and milk just didn't go together.

Even only a few years ago I had to search for any milk in some breakfast buffets in B&Bs or hotels. And when I did find it, it was an opened packet of long life milk which had gone off. (This happened more than once in the very North of Germany - home of the Fresian cows!)

And don't start me on cream. I have the richest cream I could find in my fridge at the moment as it was DH's 75th last week and I needed something special. 32% fat

I looked it up: Normal double cream in the UK starts at 40%.

Normal "Schlagsahne" ( " whipping cream") here has 30% fat. No wonder they sell little sachets of a powder (Sahnesteif) to help the cream stiffen ( contains starch and a few other ingredients).

I admit I am a milk addict: I get through 3-4 litres of milk per week just on my own, full fat. - DH uses oat milk.

NotSpaghetti Wed 12-Feb-25 12:05:01

How interesting JackyB
Every day's a school day on Gransnet!

I had no idea Germany didn't use much milk. Germany makes me think of pasture land!

Grammaretto Wed 12-Feb-25 17:02:44

I'm surprised about the Germans. My friend who is German but has lives here in Scotland for 40years loves coffee made with hot milk!
I based all my knowledge of Grrman coffee habits on her until reading your post JackyB 🤣😂

watermeadow Wed 12-Feb-25 18:18:33

I use oat milk for all purposes. It doesn’t involve extreme cruelty to cows and their calves.

AreWeThereYet Wed 12-Feb-25 20:12:24

shysal

Most supermarkets sell Graham's Gold milk, either in smooth or gold top. It makes delicious rice pudding!

That's what I use to make yoghurt.

NonGrannyMoll Wed 12-Feb-25 20:26:56

I use whole pasteurised milk for everything (except when I'm catering for a vegan, in which case I ask them which plant milk they prefer and buy some in). In 60 years of cooking, I've never had a problem with making creamy custard, rice pudding, scrambled eggs, white sauce, etc. Add cream (or soya cream) if you want it extra creamy. Or pour cream on top.

mabon1 Sat 15-Feb-25 15:57:45

The cream is still in the homogenised milk but it can't be seen at the top as in days gone by. I make rice pudding regularly and it's lovely and creamy.