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What will you never grow again?

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karmalady Sat 03-Sept-22 08:23:34

I have gone from allotment to a new house with a small garden and I grow fruit, flowers and veg

I am giving up on brassicas, I only planted one sprout and one purple sprouting this year, under net. They have grown beautifully strong but the cabbage white got in and the slugs and snails attacked. Now the area stinks of cabbage and the plants are full of holes and covered top to bottom with slug, snail and caterpillar poo and I cannot walk past without a swarm of shiny blue flies rising up

Definitely not worth my while any more, I am giving up on brassicas

Callistemon21 Sun 04-Sept-22 23:12:08

Thanks. I should be grateful because he's a lovely old fellow but I thought oh no, last time it took me ages to get rid of it.

It's not going in the rockery though.

muse Sun 04-Sept-22 23:23:11

Sweetcorn. Second year of trying. The plant itself looks fantastic but it's all show and no substance. A total waste of space.

First year of growing squash (two varieties) and loving what's being produced?.

MayBee70 Sun 04-Sept-22 23:35:43

Passion flower. Had one in a pot and it did nothing. Planted it in the garden and it still did nothing for years. Then, a couple of years ago I went away for a few weeks and when I returned it had taken over half of the garden, including the washing line. It was a nightmare to eradicate as well as it had tendril like things growing under the soil. I honestly think that, if I hadn’t killed it it would have strangled me in my sleep.

Callistemon21 Sun 04-Sept-22 23:39:33

muse I grew sweetcorn a few years ago and the results were good although not as large as those you can buy in a shop. They need to be planted in a square, not a row.

However, it perhaps hasn't been a good year for them, far too dry.

Callistemon21 Sun 04-Sept-22 23:42:01

MayBee ?

We planted passionflower and honeysuckle against a wall but it grew and strangled our neighbours' plants.

We got rid of it and I planted variegated ivies instead. Mistake! It did the same thing.

Now we have a bare wall.

Teacheranne Sun 04-Sept-22 23:52:20

Wild garlic! Not planted by me but it flourishes in one bed under the bushes and is appearing in the lawn now! I don’t like the smell when I try to dig them out and due to my mobility problems I can’t reach the back of the bed so just have to try to keep the front part free of them.

Teacheranne Sun 04-Sept-22 23:56:19

I’m also going to try to get rid of a huge fern as it looks a mess for most of the year and is too big for the area it is in. I bought a couple of unusual flowering grasses at RHS Bridgewater which I want to plant instead.

I’ve no idea how I’m going to get the roots out though, once the leaves die back there is a huge dried up brown stump left!

muse Mon 05-Sept-22 00:18:40

Callistemon21

muse I grew sweetcorn a few years ago and the results were good although not as large as those you can buy in a shop. They need to be planted in a square, not a row.

However, it perhaps hasn't been a good year for them, far too dry.

Thank you so much Callistemon21 and I wish that was the answer but I did it in square 3 x 3 both years. First year in the polytunnel with irrigation sprinklers every day. This year I tried them outside in a new raised bed. Apart from when our stream (water supply) dried up for 4 days and I had to half the amount of water, they got loads each day. They have formed but loads of kernels missing.

MaizieD Mon 05-Sept-22 00:27:54

Teacheranne

Wild garlic! Not planted by me but it flourishes in one bed under the bushes and is appearing in the lawn now! I don’t like the smell when I try to dig them out and due to my mobility problems I can’t reach the back of the bed so just have to try to keep the front part free of them.

Perhaps you could sell it to a local restaurant. It's terribly fashionable now apparently. ?. Sell it as a 'pick your own' ...

welbeck Mon 05-Sept-22 00:32:20

brown hair.

Teacheranne Mon 05-Sept-22 01:45:33

MaizieD

Teacheranne

Wild garlic! Not planted by me but it flourishes in one bed under the bushes and is appearing in the lawn now! I don’t like the smell when I try to dig them out and due to my mobility problems I can’t reach the back of the bed so just have to try to keep the front part free of them.

Perhaps you could sell it to a local restaurant. It's terribly fashionable now apparently. ?. Sell it as a 'pick your own' ...

I did not know that! I might consider selling it to friends who like cooking. Which part do you eat, the leaves or the little bulb or both?

Rubeee Mon 05-Sept-22 02:46:43

Sunflowers. Mine just didn’t last long

CanadianGran Mon 05-Sept-22 03:58:09

Dahlias; every one I have tried in my garden has been eaten right down to a skeleton of stems. In pots they are ok, but not outstanding.

Roses; I have one variety, most likely a rugosa that is so prickly and invasive. The white flowers do give nice scent but wilt after one or two days in our damp climate. We would dig it up, but our late dog and cat's ashes were planted at the same time as the bush, so it stays.

I have a few other varieties of small shrub roses that are constantly a battle of the bugs, and the buds tend to rot before they bloom. I think I just need to realize we live in an area too wet for roses.

BlueBelle Mon 05-Sept-22 06:53:50

fleurpepper I m totally the opposite my strawberry bed is fantastic but the raspberries are just taking up a lot of space with a small amount of raspberries so I m halving the raspberry bed ( if you want any canes ????)

BlueBelle Mon 05-Sept-22 06:56:01

I gave so much wild garlic away last year expecting it to still be plentiful but not a sausage this year so got to get some off a friend
Too much honesty if anyone wants any seeds ?

karmalady Thu 08-Sept-22 09:54:48

I have re-visited my brassicas, only 2 plants but both are strong and tall in only a 1 x 1m bed. I took the net and cage off, took the fallen and yellowing leaves out and suddenly there is air

Not wanting to waste my organic plants, which are growing alot of veg between them. I have cleaned them up, only found one caterpillar and lots of damage from slugs and whatever has caused the black poo all over

I made a litre at a time of neem/soft soap spray, 5ml neem and 10ml horticultural soap in every litre and I used 5 litres. Blasted as many leaves and as much of the stems as I could. I use a 1 litre birchmeier pressure sprayer. The leaves underneath as much as possible and the white flies dropped in a milky liquid. Now the plants look great and I can keep a better eye on yellow butterfly eggs, to squish but I hope there are no more, depends on the weather

Out of the two plants, the purple sprouting had much less damage and is the one which provides a lot of reward for space, if I do have one plant then it will be that one but the jury is out until harvest

Btw, a have never had a problem with any tight leaved cabbage such as red drummond and minicole, there are many others

karmalady Thu 08-Sept-22 10:15:16

I have to recommend basket strawberries in self watering troughs on a stepped stand, 2-3 troughs on a stand here, all in full exposure to the sun. I started with an assortment of 9 plants, divided each year and now have 72 in not very brilliant compost. I am getting a big bowl of luscious strawberries every single day, enough to freeze and eat

I have to renew this autumn and am nurturing 50 new plugs from ebay. They will be ready to put into troughs in november. I have a big task ahead, emptying and washing and filling but then they will be ok for 3-4 years ahead.

The berries mostly hang over the edge and many are large. I bought my stands, black iron, from wayfair and I have 5 as I use them as dividers on my patio and far easier than having annual flowers, which I will never grow again.

I have grown normal straberries for many years but they don`t like it here, whereas these basket strawberries are far far stronger and produce much better

Casdon Thu 08-Sept-22 10:51:40

Can you post a picture of your strawberry stand karmalady, it’s sounds brilliant, but I can’t picture it in my mind?

Namsnanny Thu 08-Sept-22 11:05:34

Callistemon21

MayBee ?

We planted passionflower and honeysuckle against a wall but it grew and strangled our neighbours' plants.

We got rid of it and I planted variegated ivies instead. Mistake! It did the same thing.

Now we have a bare wall.

I like bare walls, especially red brick, or natural stone.
I love it in the winter when the annuals have finished.
It's nice to ring the changes.

timetogo2016 Thu 08-Sept-22 11:15:16

A baby.

karmalady Thu 08-Sept-22 13:31:10

I don`t do photos but the stands are tiered, black painted iron with a few swirls on the 4 legs. The troughs are a dark brown plastic basketweave and that holds the water. Inside each trough are two small troughs with hollow legs which contain a gravel-like substrate and through which the plant`s water roots can search for water

Each tier holds one of the large brown troughs so what I see is tier upon tier of strawberry plants with pink and red flowers standing proud and sprays of heavy strawberries hanging down. It feeds the bees and really is a continuation of my insect-friendly garden, much more than annual flowers

Namsnanny Thu 08-Sept-22 13:31:57

Yes timetogo2016 ?I immediately thought eyelashes when I first read the title?

Namsnanny Thu 08-Sept-22 13:36:30

Sounds like a perfect way to grow strawberries Karmalady plus I suppose they can be moved around to face the sun?
Did you say where you bought them, if not can I be forward and ask?

I suppose wall baskets would be a good substitute, if the wall is south ish facing.

Casdon Thu 08-Sept-22 13:47:26

karmalady

I don`t do photos but the stands are tiered, black painted iron with a few swirls on the 4 legs. The troughs are a dark brown plastic basketweave and that holds the water. Inside each trough are two small troughs with hollow legs which contain a gravel-like substrate and through which the plant`s water roots can search for water

Each tier holds one of the large brown troughs so what I see is tier upon tier of strawberry plants with pink and red flowers standing proud and sprays of heavy strawberries hanging down. It feeds the bees and really is a continuation of my insect-friendly garden, much more than annual flowers

I think I can picture it now, are the troughs like those you buy for tomatoes, with a false bottom which is perforated plastic, with the compost above and the hollow legs sitting on the water/gravel?

karmalady Thu 08-Sept-22 13:59:01

Any self watering trough would work, you can get different qualities, depends on the budget. Amazon is where I got mine, pricey but will last for many years and look nice and were 2 troughs within the large trough

The tiered stands were from wayfair and again are different prices, I paid more as I can paint them with hammerite if needed and they will last a very long time as they are not flimsy

The plants are available in garden centres, names such as tuscana, summer breeze, gasana, tarpan. I did get plugs from ebay and they are fab, now potted on into final larger pots in JI number 2. Garden centre plants should have pots filled with roots and they could be subdivided