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Perennial clarkia

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Flutterby345 Sat 26-Jul-25 14:06:48

I had never come across it till today. Had discussion with garden owner over his fence. He is ex-gardener so knew his onions. Looked like clarkia, pink pomponny flowers. Nowhere to be found on line. Wondering if invasive. Was all along bottom of south facing wall. Chap.has said he will pot some up.for me when we go back there next year. Anyone know any thing about it?

J52 Sat 26-Jul-25 17:45:54

Hmm, I wonder if he’s using the name Clarkia ( sometimes called Godetia) for something similar.
Himalayan Balsam could be mistaken for Clarkia, but is larger.

winterwhite Sat 26-Jul-25 18:23:14

Or pink valerian, which is a prolific self-seeder but not invasive. Annual clarkia isn’t pompon-y, never heard of perennial.

Flutterby345 Sat 26-Jul-25 19:30:40

Thank you. This was a very old man in a very old house who had been a gardener. He must have been wrong. So annoyed now I did not think to take a pic.

Esmay Sat 26-Jul-25 22:27:40

Clarkia are very easily grown by sowing seed .
They are annual and don't spread .
They are short and the pom poms small and regularly spaced along the stem. They can be different colours .

Godetia are annual , low growing and sometimes known as poor man's orchids and are a favourite of mine . They look very different from Clarkia . They grow easily from seed,but don't spread.
I've grown both .

I grow Valerian - they've just gone over .
They have big pom poms -either pink or red ,are tall and fall over if not staked in a flower bed. They love growing in cracked paving as well .They self seed .

Himalayan Balsam is very bushy and the flowers are almost lilac, but not pom pom shaped . I think that it's on the banned list as they are so invasive . I've seen great banks of them growing alongside the River Calder .
I've grown some pinky coloured Alliums which have little pom poms .
Hard to say without a photograph .

Esmay Sat 26-Jul-25 22:45:51

Well I'm confused!
Just looked them up and Godetia is now known as Clarkia and has recently been redefined .
My book describes Clarkia as much taller than I recall .
Godetia looks totally different to me and is smaller.

Flutterby345 Sun 27-Jul-25 11:34:44

Stop press - just went for a walk I don't usually go on and there was some more of it, no phone with me of course. I'm home now. Tomorrow will take pic and post on here.

J52 Sun 27-Jul-25 15:50:17

Esmay

Well I'm confused!
Just looked them up and Godetia is now known as Clarkia and has recently been redefined .
My book describes Clarkia as much taller than I recall .
Godetia looks totally different to me and is smaller.

Yes that’s what I have recently found out. I remember as a young gardener buying both Clarkia and Goditia as different plants.
I also grow Valerian, removing the seed heads and doing a light prune keeps them flowering longer.

Flutterby345 Mon 28-Jul-25 11:09:58

This is it, folks. What is it?

Flutterby345 Mon 28-Jul-25 11:13:08

I'll try again later.

Flutterby345 Mon 28-Jul-25 11:13:50

No, it arrived.

winterwhite Mon 28-Jul-25 11:28:14

Not valerian. Where did pom pom come from? Looks much too short for clarkia.

blue14 Mon 28-Jul-25 14:30:11

It's very pretty - I like the delicate lilac colour.
I don't think it's clarkia or godetia.

I hope someone can name it for us.

Esmay Mon 28-Jul-25 14:39:29

Really hard to tell from your photograph -sorry .
The leaves make me think that it's a Phlox .
They open like that if rained on and pale lilac is a possibility .
If it's Phlox then it's an easy to grow perennial .

midgey Mon 28-Jul-25 15:07:15

There are apps you could download that might help you. Haven’t tried one myself but have heard they are good.

Flutterby345 Mon 28-Jul-25 15:46:08

This is it enlarged. The leaves are a bit phlox like but it is quite floppy and low growing.

J52 Mon 28-Jul-25 16:41:42

I’m wondering if it could be a type of Campanula.

J52 Mon 28-Jul-25 16:46:56

Different types have different leaves there are lots of varieties. Here an image of what it might be.

aggie Mon 28-Jul-25 16:48:07

My plant thing on my phone suggests soapwort

J52 Mon 28-Jul-25 16:48:52

Forgot to name it, Campanula Glomorata.

NanTheWiser Mon 28-Jul-25 17:31:00

I agree, it looks like soapwort.

LucyAnna5 Mon 28-Jul-25 17:54:40

Soapwort

Flutterby345 Mon 28-Jul-25 17:57:29

J52

Different types have different leaves there are lots of varieties. Here an image of what it might be.

I checked some pics of soapwort and don't think it is that. Campanula more likely but that does not seem to have the long white bits at base of petals.

Flutterby345 Mon 28-Jul-25 18:06:06

Checked back more pics for long white bits and yes I think soapwort after all. 1st pic I saw misleading. People used to use it to wash clothes, leaves make lather. Thanks to all.

J52 Mon 28-Jul-25 18:39:10

Glad it’s sorted! Don’t like plant mysteries 😂😄