Grandparents rights

Thank you JessM for your open honest answer, I can totally understand if the parents have split and then the other parent is being denied because then the other parent cannot even have the option of letting their parents see the child.

I dont poo at your line about when I have grandchildren, but I hope I would respect my own children enough to understand and respect what they want and hope that they once the child is old enough make up their own mind as to if they want to see me as a grandparent that my own children would then respect what their children want.

I guess as I have seen first hand the arguments I have seen a set of grandparents cause in the family home between the parents due to the grandparents total lack of respect for how they want to raise their children and how the grandparents have used the children to get what they want, without ever giving back ( to stubborn to go and visit,make comments on how they thought everyone had died because they had not seen said family for 1week, telling the children to ignor mum and dad because they know best, not bringing children back home on time etc) , a little hard to understand why in such cases when it is the grandparent at fault why they should be allowed to be given by law with no thought as to how that will affect the whole familys home life access.

JessM looks as though we were posting at the same time!

JessM there may well be vindictive ex-wives around but there are also vindictive and stalking ex-husbands who use the children to try to continue to control their wives after the wives have left the marital home. And what about those sad cases where one partner injures or kills the children in order to get back at the partner who has left them? Usually (though not always) the father.

Inbetween I think you have misunderstood some of the threads. Usually we hear from grandparents who do not see their grandchildren because of a split between the parents with one parent losing contact and hence the grandparents on that side do as well.

Otherwise, yes, maybe some grandparents can be a bit on the demanding side.

inbetween I do understand your frustration but I think you need to take a step back. Both morally and legally the situation is not about grandparents' rights but about the child's right to have a full and meaningful relationship with all members of his or her family while growing up. Children are not the property of parents but little people in their own right, and different generations have so much to offer. You may actually benefit from grandparents' involvement in your children's lives, and your children may thank you one day for enriching their lives while they are young.

Many of us view it as more a case of children's rights to have a relationship with both sets of grandparents. There are a lot of vindictive ex-wives in the world I am afraid who use prevention of access to fathers and grandparents on the other side as a way of expressing their anger. This is not in the children's interest. Just because the parent with the child in residence would like to cut the ex and all their family out of their lives, does not mean this is in the children's best interests.
I am not one of the members in this situation but I think it is every grandparent's fear that they will be cut off from their grandchildren. Mine emigrated and that was bad enough.
If you have children of your own, one day you will have grandchildren maybe and find yourself loving them as intensely as you do your own children. You will probably poo-pooh that statement - but just wait and see if it happens to you before you judge.
The pain of being separated from such much loved grandchildren is very intense. So while children's rights come first then, unless the grandparents have a history of child abuse, they too should have some rights of access. Not every other weekend - but a reasonable amount including, for school age children, overnight stays during school holidays.

Not a troll real question as in why would you put what you want before looking at your own childs happiness rather than long drawn out court battles.

I said im not a grandparent which is why im asking grandparents why they would do this, as I dont understand why anyone would want to put their own fleash and blood though all of that

Troll alert I think.

I am speechless!

All I can say is, it's pretty obvious that you aren't a grandparent, Inbetween...