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I think its an excuse to not let the children go, it isn't even that far 100 miles or so.. but if she doesn't want the children to go then I guess she will just insist they don't. Could you not go anyway? You won't get all your money back anyway and you will get a break . Its very sad that the children might lose out.

I imagine it is part of the fall out, if you can overcome that it will all be OK. They are her children and she ultimately has the control over when/if you see them. I don't think there is anything you can do about it.

I think it's a great shame that you and your grandchildren will miss out on a holiday together. Is there no chance that you and your daughter can make things up?

Alternatively, is there someone else in the family that you can invite on holiday who might be in need of a break (and who might share a bit of the cost)? I realize it would have to be someone that you get on with very well as the restricted space in caravans can lead to little flare ups (speaking from experience!).

As Tanith said, since you will lose your deposit, is it worth just the two of you going and hopefully having a nice, relaxing time together?

Thank you all for your comments. As luck would have it I have only paid the deposit but the balance is due this week. It is a large caravan and as it is the school holidays would not choose to go at this time if it was just with my husband.

In your shoes I would make a final attempt to talk to daughter with a view to a reconciliation or to make sure she won't let the children go with you to Norfolk without her.

If this did not work I would cancel the holiday if the financial loss was not too great.

Maybe something else can be arranged later.

Spam I agree with you about not going in school holidays, could you not have one last try to talk to your daughter it seems such a shame..

Could you possibly ask the site management to transfer your deposit to a later date, after the school holidays? Then you could have your holiday in peace. It's unfortunate that your GC are the losers.

I have received a letter today for the balance on the holiday today and I am in a quandary as to what to do. My daughter has said that they will bring the children to us and then come and pick them up but knowing how she behaves sometimes I am sure we would be hanging around waiting for them. I too would be worrying about her driving there and back and there and back to Norfolk when really it is not necessary. I have not spoken to my daughter as when I ring she lets the 'phone go onto ansaphone so she knows who it is. Anyone would think I am the big bad wolf. I will only lose £100 if I forfeit the holiday which is not a great deal but I am not even sure she has told them they not be going yet.

If you cancel you may lose the chance of seeing the GC but if they don't turn up then you at least will have a holiday even if it is not when or where you would choose on your own. Sorry to state the obvious but I would go ahead with the holiday. I am taking both sets ofDGCs away but the second lot I am awaiting news from their mother as to how and when she is taking them home! If she doesn't get her a.i.g I will be buying them school uniform for a local school. These daughters hey.

If your daughter as said they will bring the children to you, why not take it in good faith and go ahead? You could leave a cheery answerphone message saying youre looking forward to seeng them all.

I completely agree with whenim64.

It does sound a little bit as though you yourself aren't really happy to do the holiday.

I do want to do the holiday but it was part of my 60th celebrations and instead of having a party was going to pay for my daughter and family to go away with us. I was really looking forward to it and I believed my daughter was too. I have sent an email to her explaining everything but she has not responded. My husband is a little bit harder than me and doesn't tend to give in to her, I do but keep getting hurt and upset

What does your husband think you should do about the holiday?

I have received a letter today for the overdue balance so I think I will see his reaction when he gets in from work. In the meantime my daughter has rung me and we have had a long chat. She is aware she has anger problems and does try and deal with it. She wants us to put it behind us and move on (which is what I would prefer) even though the upset is still there. Watch this space....................................

Glad your daughter phoned you spam - I hope all goes well with your holiday.

That is hopeful news, Spam.

good luck with this spam, it sounds as if your daughter is ready to move on, best for all of you if possible.

I hope you all get to go on holiday Spam!!