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Guilty and looking for coping methods

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SupernannyA Tue 15-Dec-15 18:39:56

I feel so guilty my disabled grandson would love to come and stay and asks regularly to do so but I don't know how to cope. At 4 he is not potty trained and I have a real problem with changing him. This is not just with him, my own kids were trained before they were 18 months old because I don't do bodily fluids. Does anyone have a similar problem and a solution please.

annodomini Thu 17-Dec-15 09:54:20

Wish I could have mine to stay but distance is too great. DGD1 did come to stay when she was little and was as good as gold. Even at the age of 10 she was happy making structures out of a big cardboard box and always loved baking in my kitchen. She'll be 24 two weeks from today.

Greenfinch Thu 17-Dec-15 09:53:41

I think it partly depends on whether you have a husband/partner. What seems daunting for one often seems possible for two even if the other is a "sleeping partner".I find it very difficult to get up from a sitting position holding a baby and need someone to pass it to.

Sadiesnan Thu 17-Dec-15 09:00:18

My son and DIL would love me to have their children overnight. To be honest I struggle to look after them during the day for short periods. One is still in nappies. I think there is a lot of pressure on us grans to do childcare, yet we've been there done that, got the t-shirt.

As you get older it does get more difficult, for whatever reason. It's just how it is. When you're young you cope. You have to, they are your children. Grandparents are not obliged to look after small children. It's so much more difficult for us, yet no one seems prepared to acknowledge that fact!

I always refuse to have any grandchildren to stay. I just couldn't cope and I refuse to feel guilty about it. End of!!!

farmgran Thu 17-Dec-15 08:47:17

Try singing when you change him, just something funny and silly. It will help blow the smell away and put you in a different headspace and make it fun for him too! Maybe jinglebells

Nana3 Thu 17-Dec-15 08:21:36

flowers for you Leonora47, and flowers for all the Grandparents on this thread, supergrans all.

Bellanonna Thu 17-Dec-15 08:01:43

Good post leonora47. I hope supernanny hasn't done a runner as there are some very encouraging posts on here

Leonora47 Thu 17-Dec-15 07:09:13

My DH was doubly incontinent for the year before he died, and because I was nursing him at home, with help from visiting carers twice a day, it sometimes fell to me to, " do the necessary."
Believe me, I was not at all confident of the strength of my stomach. But I needed to do all I could to keep my dear man out of a nursing home. The carers taught me a few tricks of the trade.
It gets a bit graphic now, so please go to the next post if squeamish.
Your DGS will probably use pull-up pants, and the trick is to rip/cut the pants down both sides, and roll the pants up, thus containing the contents.
Synonymous's comments about being well prepared were spot on.
Have everything to hand, including disposable small , square , waterproof sheets, sold in most chemists. A spray-on hand sanitizer is also essential., even if you are using latex gloves.
I also kept a bowl of water, sitting on the window-sill, with essential lavender oil in it.
If everything you need is at hand, the changes can be over at lightning speed!
Do try to go for it Supergran. Really earn your username, and be proud of your fortitude. Your family will be so proud of you too.
Be strong, and be there! Good luck.

Luckylegs9 Thu 17-Dec-15 06:47:42

If there was an emergency you would have to do it. So bite the bullet and just think of that lovely little boy and how happy it would make him.

I used to be terrified of spiders, would sleep downstairs rather than deal with one in the bedroom. When I had a son I made the decision that I would deal with it. When the situation arose, I got a heavy glass and cardboard, caught the spider and with my son, released it into the garden. All the time my heart was pounding and I was praying, just let me do this. It got easier, still don't like them and get nervous. Living on my own now I have had to get rid of a lot of spiders and always reward myself with a tipple or chocolate.

So you can do it. He needs his nan, do it just once and pretend to him it's no big deal, in time it won't be. Good luck.

gmac Thu 17-Dec-15 01:24:02

Not exactly on thread but it reminded me of when our DGD was born 3 1/2 years ago. If I looked after her for a length of time and changed her wet nappies then when I did a pee, the smell was exactly the same as her nappy ???

Thebeeb Wed 16-Dec-15 21:43:44

I feel you should not be made to feel guilty for finding something difficult and hard to deal with This is a very individual and personal thing. It does NOT mean you don't love your grandson as much as other grandparents. Take it slowly. Do as much as you feel comfortable with and try to expand it when you can. Might take a bit of time but who knows where it might take you. Good luck.

Luckygirl Wed 16-Dec-15 21:29:11

My nearly 3 year old GD was with us all day today and she was "running a bit rich" as they say; she is fully potty trained, but had a bit of an accident, so I was up to my eyes in it today. The important thing for me was that she did not feel bad about it. The phrase I use when requesting a view of the filed of action is: "Bum in the air like you just don't care!" - that makes 'em smile!

sherish Wed 16-Dec-15 18:38:15

I think if I was in this situation I would ask his mum if I could watch her do it, just to give me the confidence. I shouldn't think he would be as wriggly as a little toddler. They roll into it as I remember!

NanaandGrampy Wed 16-Dec-15 18:37:40

Sorry to hear about your problem . The trouble is feeling guilty just isn't helping is it? You don't feel any better , neither does one disabled little boy !

I'm a firm believer that some things in life...well you just have to suck it up and get over it.

I'm totally phobic about the dentist but I know I have to go ...can't complain about the pain of toothache if it's because I was too afraid to go to the dentist.

Perhaps stop feeling guilty and work out coping strategies because your little grandsons disappointment is really your responsibility. I'm sorry if that sounds harsh but it's true. Look at his little face and find some strength to deal with the few moments of unpleasantness , think how much joy both of you will get from time together . Good luck!

harrysgran Wed 16-Dec-15 18:37:32

I think it depends how much you want your grandson to stay we all have to bite the bullet at sometime and do things we don't like.

Nana3 Wed 16-Dec-15 18:00:15

What good advice Lynn. I do wear gloves and will try the tee tree oil. Thank you.

Lynnekovan1969 Wed 16-Dec-15 17:43:03

I was a nurse for over 40 years, and had to find ways of overcoming certain body fluids that were always difficult for me. Get some tee tree oil and dab it under your nose, you will smell that rather than whatever it is that's putting you off.
Imagine that you feel OK about it, and act as if you do. No harm in wearing disposable gloves.
I think you will feel so much better about the whole situation if you develop strategies for coping, rather than letting your guilt eat away at you.
Good luck!

Nana3 Wed 16-Dec-15 17:42:06

I'm still cleaning the bottom of my 9 year old disabled grandson when he stays with me. He doesn't wear a nappy now except for bed but his undies are usually slightly dirty. He worries about it but the staff at his (special) school have a great get it done quickly way with him and if they can do it I'm sure I can too. My DH also does it without fussing. It's important to keep him clean, my DD has always been good at caring for him. It's not easy as he doesn't always cooperate.
We would like not to do it but he so looks forward to being with us, we just do it.

TriciaF Wed 16-Dec-15 17:20:28

Supernanny - you never know , you might be able to start training him, perhaps his parents haven't bothered, thinking he can't be trained? You trained your own children.
At 4 years, the best way is to sit him on the toilet after a meal, or whenever you find his system is working.
On a reasonable diet , he should only have one bowel movement a day.
I once looked after a friend's 6 yr old Downs girl for a weekend, and was floored when she soiled her nappy after a meal. But had to cope!

rosesarered Wed 16-Dec-15 16:46:43

I did think the name was rather an irony!

rosesarered Wed 16-Dec-15 16:45:55

I do wonder how the OP managed with her own young childrens nappies though.All children, even potty trained ones have accidents.
All phobias need sorting out, whatever they are, a hypnotherapist told a friend of mine that he could cure anything ' as long as the person really wanted to lose the phobia' ( the mind is a funny thing.) If it isn't an actual phobia and just a dislike, then the OP is losing out as having a DGC to stay over is wonderful for them and also for you.

Greenfinch Wed 16-Dec-15 16:33:06

Is this a wind up? Where is Supernanny? Would someone presenting such a problem really call herself. that? Apologies if I have got it all wrong which is very possible.

Gaggi3 Wed 16-Dec-15 16:22:01

No-one is surprised when people faint at the sight of blood, their own or others', so it's reasonable that a percentage of people might have the same reaction to other bodily fluids. It seems to me that it's a real problem and not to do with how much someone is loved or not. It's a shame but you shouldn't feel guilty, Supernanny, I'm sure you have many other super qualities.

vickymeldrew Wed 16-Dec-15 15:52:13

A genuine phobia is a very debilitating thing. However, lots of people say they can't deal with bodily fluids, poo or blood and particularly needles. If you have had a serious illness the injections suddenly become bearable to help you get well. On I'm a Celebrity .... you see the contestants squealing and crying but they do eventually overcome most of their fears. Amazing what the human mind can do.

elena Wed 16-Dec-15 12:14:48

Supernanny must have a phobia - I agree with the suggestion to get it dealt with.

I do find it notable that I was never at all bothered by changing my own children's nappies, and I don't mind my grandson's either.

Nieces and nephews - a little bit more bothered.

But friend's children? I really didn't like doing it. Of course I did it, if I was looking after them.

I do think love has got a lot to do with it smile

harrigran Wed 16-Dec-15 12:00:43

All children have accidents at times, I think I would have less problem with one contained in a nappy.