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Grandson is rude.

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BoppityBoo Thu 13-Apr-17 17:17:30

My 6 yr old grandson tells me he hates me then says...just kidding. Just out of the blue, he'll tell me that I'm stupid, then just kidding!
I love him with all my heart, but this rudeness is driving me crazy!
I will take him somewhere fun then ask him if he had a good time, his response is...No!!!!
He's my only GC and I wish he'd just let me love him.

stillaliveandkicking Sat 15-Apr-17 22:14:02

This is continual as the OP states. Not a one off or for a short time. It's very learned behaviour and not from a peer.

Chewbacca Sat 15-Apr-17 22:12:06

Exactly SAAK he's "heard it from someone else ". And that's very possibly to have been from another child at his school, rather than from his home, don't you think? Personally, I think he's just copying what he heard from a classmate and parental guidance will resolve the problem.

stillaliveandkicking Sat 15-Apr-17 22:06:15

Im not in my workplace Chew so, can't comment on that. I'm basing this on what the OP has imparted. This child of 6 says really mean comments in a "joking" manner to his grandmother and in her words does not want to be loved by her. In the adult world we call this gas lighting. Men that do this are usually perfectly wonderful to others just not their partners. Its very possible this little boy has heard it and is acting out to his grandmother.

Chewbacca Sat 15-Apr-17 21:50:24

SAAK I respect that you work with children, but would you actually know if one of the children you work with, who presented as well behaved, polite and well mannered at school, was saying, or behaving a little less well at home? And if you did, could you explain how you would know? Assuming of course that the parents hadn't spoken to you or a colleague about it?

Ana Sat 15-Apr-17 21:23:36

Well, we'll just have to disagree on this subject.

stillaliveandkicking Sat 15-Apr-17 21:19:39

How do you know Ana? The OP hasn't been back. I work with kids and very rarely have I heard this type of behaviour, if and when i do, it is usually due to parenting.

Ana Sat 15-Apr-17 21:11:06

I don't think it's very likely, saak, that this little boy's father regularly says that sort of thing to his wife/partner. Bit perhaps you know better.

Chewbacca Sat 15-Apr-17 20:54:59

Should have said DGD not DD, apologies

Chewbacca Sat 15-Apr-17 20:51:04

My DD is the sweetest little girl. Well mannered, always remembers please and thank you etc. She started school last September and all was well until around February of this year. She started answering back, refusing to do as she was asked, generally being a bit of a madam! Some of the things that she was saying were clearly things that she had picked up from other children in the playground; nothing outrageous, just words and phrases that, until then, had been unknown to her. On one occasion, my DDIL stopped DGD and asked her what *** the offending word/phrase meant. DGD looked rather taken aback and admitted that she didn't know, but "little Johnny or whoever said it". Obviously, explanations of what it meant and why it was not a nice thing to say and the repercussions of repeating it were given pdq.
Young children are like sponges; they soak up everything around them, both good and bad. It's the way they learn about life in general. This isn't a result of poor parenting and certainly not a reflection of what goes on in the home. They see and hear so much more when they go to school and witness other ways of behaving; other ways of speaking. The only time that "poor parenting" comes into it, is when the child isn't corrected and gently put back on the right path. And, for the record, the phrase that my DGD used has never been used in their home.

stillaliveandkicking Sat 15-Apr-17 20:26:09

Children that say these sorts of nasty things may be subject to things going on at home, they are "sponges" and repeat/learn. Boys especially pick up on what their fathers say to their mothers.

Jalima1108 Sat 15-Apr-17 20:17:36

Iam64
I am older but grin

Boppity remember - you are the adult in this relationship.

stillaliveandkicking Sat 15-Apr-17 18:38:03

Why should he be allowed to watch them is more to the point. I don't really know any cartoons like that automatically available to 6 year olds and if they are do parents not vet what their children watch? Bizarre.

No comment to Iam - she's explained it perfectly herself.

Iam64 Sat 15-Apr-17 18:32:52

Give it a rest saak. Apologies for responding like a rude 6 year old but honestly!

Ana Sat 15-Apr-17 18:27:23

I'm not. Kids of 6 watch cartoons a lot...why should he not be allowed to watch them? confused

Jalima1108 Sat 15-Apr-17 18:26:17

I think they can become very rude and cheeky in the first couple of years at school, a sweet and lovely child can turn into a rude little monster and they find it very amusing. It is up to the parents and the OP in this case to say firmly but kindly that it is not nice, we don't say things like that. Do the DP know? Often saying 'do you think Daddy/Mummy would like to know that you say that?' is enough to stop them in their tracks.

stillaliveandkicking Sat 15-Apr-17 18:20:55

Well even then, why would this child be allowed to watch those cartoons? Blimey Ana, why are you so hell bent on me not being able to say there may be more of a problem going on. Just to make yourself right?

Ana Sat 15-Apr-17 18:16:05

How do you know? Have you seen some of those American cartoons they watch? Plenty of examples of bad behaviour there.

stillaliveandkicking Sat 15-Apr-17 18:11:15

And Ana? Was just reiterating where it may come from and if so, then maybe the boys mother isn't in a very loving relationship with the OP's son if you get my meaning. If everyone wants to dismiss what is probably the cause then so be it.

The boy knows what he's saying, he's 6.
No it doesn't come from the TV.

Ana Sat 15-Apr-17 18:00:24

That point has already been mentioned. More than once.

stillaliveandkicking Sat 15-Apr-17 17:58:01

These things are more often a product of what they hear at home.

Elegran Sat 15-Apr-17 17:32:31

Next time, point out that if he tells people he hasn't enjoyed an outing, he will find that they don't bother arranging another for him. Carry this through - if another treat is suggested (one that he would probably love), give it as your opinion that he doesn't like treats so there is no point planning it and don't!

And when he next says that he hates you, answer "That joke is not funny any more, it is just boring now. You've worn it out with too much use, better give it a rest" If this takes place AFTER the treat-that-never-was it could reinforce the lesson that being rude and borderline abusive is not a good idea.

NannyKasey Sat 15-Apr-17 17:30:31

I have the same problem with my now 15 year old nephew who is well behaved when his parents were around but very rude to me when he thought no one was listening, it has caused rows with my brother who can't believe that his beloved son (my DCs call him 'Golden Boy') can be that rude. Fortunately my Dad heard him being very rude to me and backed me and my DS up when my DS had a go at him, unfortunately he hasn't learnt his lesson and my DS now refuses to go to my brothers house, my DS only came to my DPs house this week when my nephew was there because we were celebrating my DGD No 1's birthday and he wanted to see his nieces

Rigby46 Sat 15-Apr-17 17:26:10

Absolutely agree thatbags and ana. One of my dgs is 6 and although he's never,as yet, been rude to me, I would not tolerate any of this for one moment. I've thought about what I'd do - take him into another room so it's just me and him, then tell him that he must not say things like this to anyone, that it can hurt and upset, ask him how he would feel if someone said it to him, that I think he's better than that and then I'd say that I'm leaving him in the room on his own for a few minutes to think about it and when I came back we'll have a little talk again when he'll explain to me why it was wrong and what will happen in the future. Hopefully that will do it. Then we'll go and find a biscuit

Ana Sat 15-Apr-17 17:16:40

But Elrel, if he's saying it all the time it's not 'making a mistake'. He's got into the habit of it and it's probably going to be quite hard to break him of it.

It really shouldn't have been allowed to go on so long.

Madgran77 Sat 15-Apr-17 17:12:53

willsmadnan not sure the boy bit is relevant...seen many of this age group do I over the years, including at present my 5 year old granddaughter!