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It has gone to the legal stage re my Grandson

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nannynoo Fri 09-Jun-17 17:38:41

I thought it best to continue on this section as many of you are aware of my situation or should I say ongoing situation! lol

Had an urgent call from the social worker today to say they had a legal planning meeting re my Grandson who has been living with me for 2 years ( me as his kinship foster carer )

They feel it has been dragging as he has been in care a total of 3 years ( it took me a year to fight for him to be placed with me! ) so it is now going to court but for a care order where social services will have parental responsibility

She said she would be recommending he stay with me but that we have to have a family group conference so that 'if my health fails' there is someone else in place to care for him

Logically that makes sense but the worrier in me worries he will be removed and placed elsewhere now sad sad

Turns out my daughter is still drinking just not as heavily as before but I had my suspicions even though she always presented sober at contact visits with her son

They are doing a parenting assesment on her and contact is to be upped to 3 times a week!!! at a contact centre my Grandson hates and he needs his routine after school which will be totally disrupted!!!

I told the sw this and she said she put that to the solicitors and managers etc but they shut her down and were even talking about 4 times a week!

I understand they have a duty to properly assess my daughter but with the current news she is still drinking and is refusing to go to counselling it is not looking good for her!

My concern though is for my GRANDSON who loves his chilling out time after school and I love the calm routine we have as well which is about to go to pot now ( poor little man )

We have a meeting on Monday morning and I will definitely be voicing my concerns about the contact centre which will probably be 2 to 3 times a week after school God knows for how many hours! I understand they have to write notes about my daughter and how she presents herself and interacts with my Grandson and how often she shows up etc but what about what it puts him through??? sad

Plus I need to know they are serious about offering me guardianship if my daughter fails the assessment which I still suspect they will do but I am still worried as they 'voiced concerns' about his dental appointments which are actually all up to date and have actually been fighting to get the treatment he needs as his regular dentist was refusing to remove his baby tooth which has been loose for nearly 2 years now so I got my doctor to refer him to the dental hospital and it's not my fault it is taking them so long to offer him an appointment as it can take approx 6 months but why are they picking any holes in my care of him when everyone else supposed to be happy with it

Plus poor little man has still been wetting himself nearly every day since his Mum told him he has his room at her new house she has recently moved to and his behaviour has become more difficult so with this new change on top of it God knows what sort of meltdowns etc we are in for as how much is this poor boy meant to cope with? sad xx

I also cannot afford the transport 3 x per week as he is not good on public transport so we have to cab it but they have already said there is nothing they can do about that! x

starbird Fri 16-Jun-17 15:45:42

nannynoo stop, breathe, relax. You seem to be working yourself up onto a state with 'what if' fearing the worst has already happened. That is a waste of your energy which you can ill afford, on gact you could be heading gor a breakdown. What will happen to GS then?

I know it must be hard, but try to stop worrying about the outcome. You have done everything you can, now enjoy your time with GS, can you get out at the weekend? Go to a park or seaside? Have a nice time, relax, get some fresh air, reassure him and say that whatever happens, you will always love him and be there for him. Get yourself untagged ftom that photo!

nannynoo Fri 16-Jun-17 10:54:21

There are kids who are returned home into APPALLING conditions but they get protective and tell their former family member carer that they do NOT want to go back and live with them , they want to stay where they are ( no matter how bad things are ) and then the relative has the fall out and anger directed at THEM if they are removed again due to neglect etc and placed back with the relative , some kids pine for their parent/s no matter how bad things get / are / were whereas some feel angry and want nothing at all to do with them and I think my GS is currently feeling a bit of both tbh sad sad

nannynoo Fri 16-Jun-17 10:48:15

I am not doing very well , still dealing with the anger and pain , was angry at the authorities at first ( and still am a bit ) but actually I can see what they are doing as everything usually comes out in the wash and they want to be able to make records of it for evidence for court

I think deep down the anger and pain are about my daughter and what she is and has put her son through and the fact that she is still lying and using DECEPTION to try and get her son back so it is not a genuine recovery but if little man was GENUINELY MORE HAPPY AT HOME and his Mum could cope well then that would be the ultimate happy ending for him as he only has one Mum and he knows I am Nanny not Mum

I just don't like her dirty tactics as well , slating areas about my care of my GS in front of the SW to imply she could do a better job ... yeah right , when you are drunk on a Friday afternoon which would be the time he would get back from school!!

All I can do is hope that everything comes out in the wash either way but my gut still has warning bells going off and I do not feel comfortable with the thought of him being returned home the way things are unless there is a drastic change which I am not entirely sure will happen in the next 6 months as she is trying to pass her assessment using deception!

If he is genuinely happier with his Mum and she can take care of him then that is what I would want for him because I want him to be happy smile xx

I want and am doing everything in my power to ensure that is the ONLY scenario he would be returned to!!! sad

This has got me thinking about how things were 'before' and I do NOT want him returned into that sort of environment but then also not want to leave her because he loves her!

( and I am the baddy for wanting to keep him safe )

I would hate it if he ended up hating me for keeping him from his Mum and it is heading that way so I will just have to deal with everything which comes along including dealing with his difficult behaviours possibly for the next 6 months or so as the assessment takes 6 months x

nannynoo Fri 16-Jun-17 02:15:30

I don't know whether to laugh or cry sometimes , but you have to laugh! wink x

nannynoo Fri 16-Jun-17 02:14:01

Ok , she says it was her dog

I give up with all this sh*t ... sad

nannynoo Fri 16-Jun-17 01:35:36

I just realised tagging me in an old photo of his does not mean she KNEW him then ( she was not in the photo , just him and 2 of his friends )... my guess is she is drunk and illogical on a Friday night ( after her perfect Mum performance with her son earlier! ) angry

It is creeping me out being tagged in this guys photo , will see if I can untag it myself!!

nannynoo Fri 16-Jun-17 01:21:42

I don't know what is going on but my daughter just tagged me in a photo on Facebook of the guy who was at her house today , it was from 2015 so maybe she is trying to show me it is 'someone she has known for years' but I still don't want to be tagged in his photo!

I queried it under his photo asking her why I have been tagged in it?

I am wondering if she was drunk or her reasoning behind it? confused

nannynoo Thu 15-Jun-17 22:59:12

I don't feel like I'm winning and if my daughter was in genuine recovery I would not mind even though I would miss him like hell and have to grieve the grief will be different with CONCERN , anger and worry mixed in with it

If little man is happy back with his Mum then maybe that is winning , would just prefer it if she did more work on herself first but she is doing the bare minimum and acting and lying her way through , comes clean when FOUND OUT but then carries on living her double life again seemingly thinking or even knowing she can get away with it!!!

It seems common that the addicts do the bare minimum to get their kid/s returned , then the family member/s spend the rest of their lives worrying if there is going to be another serious episode or if their loved one is properly cared for to which the answer is NO but it's not serious enough to remove the child so they have to SUCK IT UP!! sad

Little man had 4 meltdowns today after visiting his Mum BUT this time it was because he did not want to leave and he wanted to be with his Mum and managed to say he misses her and ''wants Mummy'' sadsad

So he is re bonding with her but I hope it is not to his detriment poor thing as if she let's him down there will be so much emotional fall out to deal with but I will continue to be his therapeutic environment in whatever way it is needed

He was angry with me today for taking him away from his Mum and bringing him home , so the upped contact has meant he has truly rebonded with her again which would not be a bad thing at all if it was a genuine recovery and she was not still lying about stuff

When I got to her house there was a man there who called her ''babe'' and kissed her on the lips when he left in a hurry as she did not know the social worker was coming round for today's visit till I told her when I got there , she pushed him away and said ''my Mum's watching'' so she must know I will report it as THREE DAYS AGO SHE TOLD SS WHEN ASKED THAT SHE IS NOT IN ANY RELATIONSHIP WHATSOEVER so that was quite obviously a load of bull but why LIE about it if he is some decent bloke she has met etc but this DOUBLE LIFE is doing my head in and I am glad he was gone by the time my GS got there

My GS does not understand about alcoholism and the things his Mum hides like her LIFESTYLE and to GO BACK to that lifestyle will NOT be good for him which is why I am fighting for him

It was always , visitors , noise , drink , chaos etc and even if she has calmed down a bit it is not TOTALLY and the bloke did not seem like Mr Wonderful to me

He would have to be CHECKED by SS so maybe he has something to hide and my daughter knows it!!

So who the hell will she be bringing around my GS , she mentioned one of her exes in front of the SW and said ''My Mum did not like him because he had 6 kids from 4 different women and I thought to myself NO the main reason I did not like him was because he was an ALCOHOLIC so not a good influence on her! ( Not with her own alcoholism ) but anyway , it has been pretty stressful for me as at supervision it feels like my care of my GS is being assessed as well as THE SW has started asking me questions about his care she did not ask before and my daughter is happy to bring up anything negative she finds like the scratch on his arm that both me and the school don't know how got there so my daughter is pointing out things implying it ''would not happen in HER CARE!'' LOL

Yeah right but could you deal with 4 meltdowns in a row while cuddled up with your boyfriend? And would HE be able to deal with it properly too??

I used to have to take my GS in the other room to give him a calm ,therapeutic environment for a while and we would cuddle up and watch his favourite cartoons until he fell asleep

I used to try and protect him from the world he was in but I could not protect him enough sadsad x

I will do my darndest to protect him now but I have a horrible feeling I will fail at that too because my daughter can prove her parenting is 'good enough' and he won't be at risk of SIGNIFICANT harm!!

fluttERBY123 Thu 15-Jun-17 16:18:32

Whoops - did not mean it to be in triplicate.

fluttERBY123 Thu 15-Jun-17 16:17:47

If S/W's are nit-picking about dental appts it means they can't find anything else to write in their reports. You are winning!

fluttERBY123 Thu 15-Jun-17 16:17:47

If S/W's are nit-picking about dental appts it means they can't find anything else to write in their reports. You are winning!

fluttERBY123 Thu 15-Jun-17 16:17:47

If S/W's are nit-picking about dental appts it means they can't find anything else to write in their reports. You are winning!

fluttERBY123 Thu 15-Jun-17 16:17:46

If S/W's are nit-picking about dental appts it means they can't find anything else to write in their reports. You are winning!

fluttERBY123 Thu 15-Jun-17 16:17:46

If S/W's are nit-picking about dental appts it means they can't find anything else to write in their reports. You are winning!

fluttERBY123 Thu 15-Jun-17 16:17:46

If S/W's are nit-picking about dental appts it means they can't find anything else to write in their reports. You are winning!

fluttERBY123 Thu 15-Jun-17 16:17:46

If S/W's are nit-picking about dental appts it means they can't find anything else to write in their reports. You are winning!

fluttERBY123 Thu 15-Jun-17 16:17:46

If S/W's are nit-picking about dental appts it means they can't find anything else to write in their reports. You are winning!

fluttERBY123 Thu 15-Jun-17 16:17:46

If S/W's are nit-picking about dental appts it means they can't find anything else to write in their reports. You are winning!

fluttERBY123 Thu 15-Jun-17 16:17:46

If S/W's are nit-picking about dental appts it means they can't find anything else to write in their reports. You are winning!

fluttERBY123 Thu 15-Jun-17 16:17:45

If S/W's are nit-picking about dental appts it means they can't find anything else to write in their reports. You are winning!

fluttERBY123 Thu 15-Jun-17 16:17:45

If S/W's are nit-picking about dental appts it means they can't find anything else to write in their reports. You are winning!

fluttERBY123 Thu 15-Jun-17 16:17:45

If S/W's are nit-picking about dental appts it means they can't find anything else to write in their reports. You are winning!

fluttERBY123 Thu 15-Jun-17 16:17:45

If S/W's are nit-picking about dental appts it means they can't find anything else to write in their reports. You are winning!

fluttERBY123 Thu 15-Jun-17 16:17:45

If S/W's are nit-picking about dental appts it means they can't find anything else to write in their reports. You are winning!

fluttERBY123 Thu 15-Jun-17 16:17:44

If S/W's are nit-picking about dental appts it means they can't find anything else to write in their reports. You are winning!