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grandaughter's bath times

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autumnsun Mon 07-May-18 12:48:53

I say bathtimes what I really mean is "lack of" my gd is 8 months old & has quite a bad rash under her neck which seem to be getting worse although it doesn't seem to bother her.my dl says she trys' to keep it dry & puts cream on & it clears up & then it comes back so anyway i just nod & say ah poor thing....the problem iv'e got is i don't think she washes her that much let alone bath her(baby doesn't like it & screams) so obviously that upsets her(shes a new mum)so i think it's just probably sweat. I just feel sad that she never smells of baby talc but shes a grat mum so don't know how to suggest diplomatically TO WASH HER I haven't mentioned it to my son i know he does express surprise sometimes & has said occasionally she hasn't had a bath for a few days has she?to his wife I just find it very odd you would think shed enjoy that part of having a baby any suggestions welcome i get really upset about it privately but feel ashamed & can't talk about it to anyone through my love for dl

muffinthemoo Fri 18-May-18 23:20:35

Obvious question is obvious: has a fungal element to the rash been ruled out if it keeps coming back?

DH is a GP and always advised me to try a wee bit of Canesten for a day or two on a rash that comes back, especially in possibly damp bits like wee folds, nooks amd crannies etc like the neck.

I don’t know if this tip is any use but thought I would pass it on?

Momof3 Fri 18-May-18 23:01:45

Nope infacare is still used

Jalima1108 Wed 16-May-18 22:32:27

I used to use Infacare when I bathed my DC - that is probably a no-no today as well.

Daddima Wed 16-May-18 16:41:53

knickas Our weaning advice mid 70s was ‘ 12 weeks or 12lbs, whatever comes first”.
All 3 were breastfed, and if we had to give the baby a bottle occasionally, we were advised to give Carnation milk, reasoning being that mummy could use the rest in coffee or milk pudding!
At first there was a feeding table on the can, then when child 2 came along, there was a message on the can giving you the address to write to for infant feeding instructions, then by child 3 (1980) there was no mention of infant feeding.

knickas63 Wed 16-May-18 16:26:33

I have three (now adult) children. And I have to say, different advice for each. eldest slept on her front, middle on his side and youngest on her back (she had the wonky head to go with it). All were breastfed on demand. And I am afraid I was an exhibitionist with it. God help anyone who dared to moan about it! weaning was different with them all as well. 12 weeks, 4 months, 6 months. I ignored this and did it when it felt right and natural to me. They were all bathed most nights, one had skin issues (which she grew out of) the others didn't. They had juice in bottles, none of them had any filling until late teens for one and early twenties for others. They ate pureed food before finger food. and had sweets. I also had th eodd glass of wine whilst pregnant and breastfeeding. I feel I would be lynched today! I have advised both my daughters to follow their instincts, which they do, and they do not rely too heavily on expert advice, unless they are really struggling with something. One bathes her daughter everyday, the other every couple of days. Advice does change year in and year out, and each time it changes it is backed up with scientific proof. Young mothers nowadays are judged all the time by their peers, so no wonder they can come accross as a bit aggressive!

Daddima Wed 16-May-18 15:27:23

My daughter-in-law uses Child’s Farm baby wash and moisturiser. I don’t know how often, but it’s certainly not daily, and the wee rash my grandson had disappeared. I seem to remember it being hailed as a cure for psoriasis.

There is a wide range of baby perfumes available in France & Spain if you miss the ‘ clean baby’ smell !

JackyB Wed 16-May-18 11:42:51

I was surprised when my DGC weren't bathed so much, but I realised that they don't get really dirty, so it made sense. My DS1 and DiL didn't use soap, but just sluiced the baby in water with a shot of cream (yes! the stuff from cows' milk!) and olive oil.

It is a shame when children are not encouraged to feel at home in water. Perhaps, autumnsun, you could take the little one to baby swimming classes and kill 2 birds with one stone?

pollyperkins Wed 16-May-18 09:34:20

And talc is a definite no no these days. I know exactly what you mean about how lovely they usd to smell though!

pollyperkins Wed 16-May-18 09:32:36

The trouble is that tge advice they get from health visitirs &baby clinics these days is very different from tge advice we were given and it can be bewildering for grandparents. For example I was told I must put babies to sleep on their fronts as it was dangerous to put them on their backs! The advice now is the opposite as reasearch has shown that putting them on their backs has cut tge number of cot deaths substatially. There are lots of other examples and I just try to say nothing and go along with what my D or DiL says. Yes tge babies dont change and tgey still respond to the rocking, cuddling, singing etc that we have always done. I try not to give advice except when asked. Even then I say - well I would do so and so but it's really up to you . The last thing I want is a falling out!

To return to OP a sore patch under the chin is very common -Ive seen it in most of my GC when they were at the chubby stage. . I agree that clening in the rolls of fat helps (not necessarily bathing) but also the barrier cream is most helpful. I would tread carefully if I were you and leave it to baby's mum - if she asks you, say What do they advise at the clinic?

Febmummaofaboy Wed 16-May-18 08:58:36

My health visitor recently told me off for bathing my son every other day! Your meant to wash them every 3/4 days because of something to do with the oil in their skin? Also about smelling of talc they also say babies aren't allowed talc as they breathe in the powder! My mum would just tell me if she thought baby needed to be bathed more? And your son is the babies parent too so would you just be able to tell him to bath the baby in evening when he's finnished work? If thats not an option say you would love to bath the baby yourself and then if your DIL doesn't enjoy doing it she might like giving baby to you to bath? Also most babies have that red line from dribble, my little man doesn't yet but only because I constantly wipe with muslin when he eats as know it happens so much! Hope it gets sorted for you and your grandchilds rash clears up soon? Child's farm is also really good? You could always buy some and say you were recommended by a friend? That way you don't sound like you are judging just trying to help?

agnurse Wed 16-May-18 01:35:28

Beau

Babies getting bathed in the hospital can depend on how long they stay. Their temperature has to stabilize before they can get a bath because they can lose too much heat. There is also a school of thought that if the baby is bathed too early they can have trouble breastfeeding.

Beau Tue 15-May-18 22:21:19

I agree with you autumnsun - bath time is the best time of the day - DD and I usually both do DGS bath, he is almost asleep by the time we finish drying him. Funnily enough, I don't use talc as I know it's not considered 'good' now, but DD does as she says she likes the smell and it's all a load of nonsense. I was quite disgusted that the babies were not bathed in hospital now - in the seventies we even had baby bathing lessons while we were stuck in there for 8 days and had to do the daily baths under the nurses watchful eye. Times certainly change ?

SpanielNanny Tue 15-May-18 21:19:40

autumnsun OP stands for Original Post/Poster. So in this case it means you, since you started the thread smile

autumnsun Tue 15-May-18 20:52:37

sorry what does OP stand for anyone?

maddyone Sun 13-May-18 18:49:37

I bathed my children every day more or less from birth, no one told me to do that or gave me any advice about it, I chose to do it that way. My children didn’t appear to suffer any ill effects from their daily baths. My children are now adults and have young children of their own, and they both bath their children every day. They chose to do that, I didn’t advise them, and I have no idea what advice they received from any other source.
However, my advice to any new parent would be to do whatever you want to do, whatever you feel is right. Bath them every day, don’t bath them every day, do exactly what you want to do.

Violetfloss Sun 13-May-18 17:11:40

My eldest is almost 9 now and the advice given then was not to bath everyday. Exactly the same with my almost 5 year old too.
Yet i was told to swaddle my eldest but not my youngest.

The eldest hated baths. She would get into a right tizz. She would go Red with crying absolutely sob her heart out before she even got in the bath! It was like bathing a baby octopus once she was in. I'd wait for DH to finish work so we could both do it. No way could I do It on my own.

It wasn't enjoyable for anyone. If your grandchild is like that its not fair to put her through that everyday if there's no need.

Jalima1108 Sun 13-May-18 15:19:57

But babies really don't get messy enough for a daily clean until weaning anyway. Then they need a deep clean every few hours
When DD started feeding herself she used to finish by plonking her dinner dish on her head (and she had quite a lot of hair!).

Jalima1108 Sun 13-May-18 15:17:56

I don't think that babies do need a bath each day, although the advice years ago was to do that so all of mine had a daily bath.
When it changed from morning to evening I did find that it helped them to sleep better.

autumnsun Sun 13-May-18 15:02:09

Newmom101 sounds like bath times ARE a nightmare for you so yeh that's a bit tough for you & must be annoying for someone like me to say it should all be all froth&frills so i apologize for that

autumnsun Sun 13-May-18 14:47:26

too much information is a dangerous thing .I might add i had NO family support with my own & managed perfectly well i can't see how babies have changed that much ! there really simple creatures.if mothers have problems it's great that there's so much help & support it doesn't have to be family OR professionals it's not a case of either /or just pick the bits you like

autumnsun Sun 13-May-18 14:18:22

Newmom101 can i just say iv'e also got two grandsons 6 & 10 so i'm not completely new to this & i would add they both had baths everyday there's so many products out there for sensitive skins these days even THEIR father doesn't understand what all the fuss is about so its' not just us "old people" I think Your being paid good money in your line of work for OVERTHINKING THINGS."Attitudes like that" sounds a bit harsh when you should probably just read what i said thoroughly

Farmor15 Fri 11-May-18 21:08:30

I think it’s useful to have a few parents posting as well as grandparents (and some not grandparents). I appreciate Newmom’s reasons for joining and have found her comments very positive but I had noticed some others who had a more negative attitude to grandparents.

Newmom101 Fri 11-May-18 18:40:58

Maddyone, I don't think I have been hostile towards to OP, I was attempting to explain from the DILs perspective how things have changed. I do apologise, OP, if you thought I was hostile, things can sound much harsher on the internet. I 'sought out' gransnet after hearing it mentioned on mumsnet. I was having difficulty with my own mother (and slight issues with MIL) after having DD and found all the advice on mumsnet was 'go no contact' & 'she's obviously a narcissist/toxic/abusive'. So I came looking here at the grandmothers perspective on similar situations as I have no wish to cause such drama in my own family.

maddyone Fri 11-May-18 18:32:24

I’ve noticed recently that Gransnet appears to have attracted a number of posters who are not grandparents but are parents. A number of these posts are quite hostile and even rude to the genuine grandparents on here. These posters appear to have sought out Gransnet in order to comment in a very negative manner. There is a perfectly acceptable alternative for parents, it’s called Mumsnet. I do wonder why parents would choose to comment on a site that is specifically designed for grandparents when there is a perfectly acceptable alternative specifically for parents.

autumnsun Fri 11-May-18 18:13:13

BlueBelle sorry overlooked your post sound advice except for the teething thing cos its been there well shall we say a long time prior (months) anyway just to acknowledge ur post
thank you its quite hard work this gransnet thing i think i need to lie down!