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Feeling Used and Abused

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NanaPlenty Thu 14-Feb-19 15:10:33

My eldest stepdaughter lives 15/20 minutes from us. She has two children, seven and two whom we love dearly. Despite making lots of suggestions and invitations to meet up she always has an excuse not too.. On numerous occasions my husband has suggested she pop in for lunch or that we call in to her as she says she always has her hands full. Lately she has become more and more distant and we had already said the next time she contacted us would only be because she needed a babysitter. Sure enough I got a text (she never calls) asking us to babysit. We haven't seen them for three months and this makes us feel very used. (I know it's cutting of your nose to spite your face to say no - but my husband is very cross and will no longer be used in this way. In reply he asked if he could see her and a really hurtful reply came back jumping to all sorts of assumptions and basically telling us we never do anything for her! We are both so hurt and angry. She has alienated not just us but the rest of her close family lately. I guess I'm really just sounding off - I'm expecting to be told we will never see the grandchildren again!

Shelagh6 Tue 19-Feb-19 16:54:21

Hormones!

Anja Mon 18-Feb-19 07:52:09

Don’t go crawling. Just send her a bunch of flowers and say ‘we are here if you need us’. Leave it at that and wait.

If she’s not going to let you into her life all the cajoling will make no difference.

Luckylegs9 Mon 18-Feb-19 07:32:30

NanaPlenty, please try to keep in contact. This happened to me until I was gradually eased completely out of her life, I tried everything and put up with anything to stay in contact. Whatever I could have done I did, but she wanted me out. I didn't see my gd for that many years when I did she's was grown and I had missed her growing up. In my heart I can never get over it, no expansion, no apology. It was her friends that I think became her new family. Mine is unusual I think because she lives a privileged life that I don't fit into. The longer you get to see your gc and build a connection the better although you will have to swallow your pride. For me I should have accepted the situation and I became depressed trying to make sense and alter something I couldn't.

NanaPlenty Sun 17-Feb-19 11:12:04

Thanks Kwest I'm inclined to agree with - unfortunately she has severed all lines of communication ?

kwest Sun 17-Feb-19 10:35:29

She sounds depressed and insecure. I would be inclined to enthusiastically accept the chance to babysit. Be careful not to criticise in any way. She needs to know she is loved and accepted even when she may not like herself very much, though of course do not suggest that last part to her.
This is not about you or your husband, even though it feels very much as if it is. The girl is unhappy and using whatever means she can to make other people feel unhappy too. She is unwell. This is hard to do but bite you tongues, be laid back and welcoming and let her know that you are always there for her. I would say that it might be unwise to just turn up without warning or invitation. At the very least make a phone call a couple of hours in advance so that she can be prepared and tidy up if she needs to. Good luck, hopefully time, patience and unconditional love will create the solution you want.

Brismum Sat 16-Feb-19 19:49:19

That’s so sad Moomin for you and your grandson ?❤️

annep1 Sat 16-Feb-19 19:02:48

Sorry didn't mean to detract from what you pisted Moomin. It was just to let you know you're not alone in having to cope with not seeing gc. Sometimes it helps.

Madgran77 Sat 16-Feb-19 18:11:47

Moomin flowers

crazyH Sat 16-Feb-19 13:27:54

Feel for you Moomin flowers

annep1 Sat 16-Feb-19 12:43:43

That's so sad Moomin. I do feel for you. I am not close to my 7 gc. not my fault either. They can't chat to me when we do meet, there's no closeness at all. Unlike the other granny.. I've accepted it but it's always a bit sad. I just get on with my own life. At least I never had to grumble about too much childminding ?

Moomintwo Sat 16-Feb-19 10:53:23

I am the mum of 6 and grandmother if one little boy who is nearly two. My relationship with his parents has been rocky but with a lot of work things are calm. Mainly because I don't ever express any options about parenting or my experience as it is shot down or sneered at. Things are different it's her child I know that. I would love be to be able to have him but arrangements never get carried through always reasons consequently when I do see him he puts his down and says he is shy then we have excruciating game of others trying to cajole him to let me go near him. Frankly I can't play this game. It's awful for all concerned and I no longer want to play. He is a lovely lad but I don't love him I don't know him. He is not allowed to know me. He has lots of contact with wider family and I'm pleased I've been surrounded by children all my life and look after a friends child since eight months. If I ask my daughter why she says he is precious to her well obviously I'm not going to let anything happen if I can help it. My youngest child died in an accident at 21 months and I have a feeling this is at the root of it all. It's a conversation I can't have. I wish things were different.

annep1 Sat 16-Feb-19 08:47:54

excuse typos.

annep1 Sat 16-Feb-19 08:47:24

She said you never do anything for her. Did you ask what she means. Perhaps popping in for lunch or a chat is not what she needs right now. And what did happen at Christmas.
Another person suggested it was something to do with the mother in which case maybe its an issue your husband could ckarify.

MountainAsh Sat 16-Feb-19 00:12:06

Is it possible that your SD is depressed.
I am just coming out the other side of that illness.
I withdrew from family and friends and made excuses not to go anywhere. I still feel panic stricken at the thought of going anywhere. The youngest child is only two, could she be suffering post natal depression?

billericaylady Fri 15-Feb-19 23:26:16

Have you asked her if anything is wrong? :-(

crazyH Fri 15-Feb-19 22:29:07

My daughter is also a very 'distant' girl.....she rings when she wants help with the children. In my case, she knows how I feel about her lazy ex-husband. She still helps him financially and I get really mad ....but I don't say anything in front of the children.
Sometimes I feel she cares about her lying, cheating Ex, than me.
SO, my advice would be to keep on babysitting because that's your chance to see her and the children. Good luck!!

Thingsaintliketheyusedtob Fri 15-Feb-19 20:08:01

Maybe just help your daughter out see your grandchild - she’s clearly making an in road to whatever relationship issues you have - my personal experience is that grandparents just don’t want to help out anymore.

ajanela Fri 15-Feb-19 17:26:58

You haven’t seen them for 3 months? What happened at Christmas? They are only 15/20 minutes away.

I am sure you must feel you made a mistake about telling her you felt you were being used so she cancelled the baby sitting. Look at it from her point of view, you say she is jumping to assumptions and maybe you are. I think many families are very busy with work, looking after the home and playing taxi service to children. I think most people would cancel the babysitting if they were told you felt used.

You haven’t mentioned if she has a partner. Yes could well be her mother who is poisoning the situation.

Being hurt and angry won’t help the situation. Maybe you could pop around with some flowers and ask if you can baby sit as it would be great to see the children.

NannaM Fri 15-Feb-19 17:12:39

NanaPlenty - I hope you can persuade her to change her mind and let the kids stay with you, even if for a short while such as an overnight visit, do it!
She is obviously under stress and needs the break.
For me - if the only way I can see my DGD is to be taken advantage of, bring it on!

Lilyflower Fri 15-Feb-19 16:46:57

Er.... Am I missing something here? If the OP and her DH babysit the DD will be out enjoying herself with free childcare and they will NOT see her. They won’t see the DC either, as they will be in bed.

willa45 Fri 15-Feb-19 15:32:09

Is it possible that she has a very 'full plate' hence very little free time....does she have a full time job in addition to her other obligations?

These days, most (working) couples jointly manage their household, two jobs, the bills, their children and if there's any time left, a somewhat limited social life. Most weekends are for running errands, cleaning house, repairs/maintenance and laundry....did I mention children with outside activities that require transport and parental participation? Most have limited time with family because of their very busy schedules.

If your daughter needs help with babysitting or you're feeling 'used', it's because you're probably the only people she feels close enough and comfortable enough with to 'use'.

Without a crystal ball, it's hard to tell if something more serious is happening in your daughter's life. You also need to ask yourselves if you had a legitimate prior engagement or other valid reason why you couldn't babysit or was it a matter of pride that led you and/or H to overthink the rest?

Either way, the healthiest approach going forward, will be to assume good faith on her part, keep honest lines of communication open and always be unconditionally supportive.

Annewilko Fri 15-Feb-19 15:21:58

Is she in a relatively new relationship? If so, my concern would be it is or has become abusive. One of the things abusive partners do is alienate family and friends.
I would definitely babysit and whilst I wouldn't question the children, I'd be loooking for any changes in their behaviour.

lakeview Fri 15-Feb-19 14:46:21

Thank you all Iam relieved to see Iam not the only one abused
So grateful to read your inputs

grannygranby Fri 15-Feb-19 14:44:18

Yes I think the grandchildren are the important ones here. I remember feeling overstretched when my children were small and happy to let granny’s see the grandchildren but not me. Probably a lot going on, let it be and lucky you seeing the gc’s. They are the important ones in your relationship.

georgia101 Fri 15-Feb-19 14:44:08

My daughter gradually alienated all the family except my husband and myself. It turned out that she was hiding a drinking problem. I don't suggest that this is the reason for your stepdaughter's behaviour, but it might be another problem she's hiding and you could maybe help with. I wish you good luck in getting a good outcome. Don't lose contact with your GC as they may need you in the future, and they will want to know that you will be there and love them whatever happens.