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Mamma66 Sun 03-Mar-19 21:07:05

My stepson is 26 and has three children. The youngest is a boy who will be three in July. The children come to stay every other weekend. For reasons I would prefer not to go into, our role is beyond the usual role of grandparents. Our grandson is not potty trained, I propose to start this nest weekend. I have done potty training for many years, I was planning to use a kitchen timer, stay at home and have bought an upstairs and downstairs potty and lots of pants! He likes stickers and was going to do a reward chart too to encourage him. Are there any new ideas on how to do this? I want to do the best by him.

Floradora9 Tue 05-Mar-19 15:11:05

I despaired of my DGD being potty trained then one day she declaired she was finished with nappies and was dry night and day ever since . If you will not bw there all the time to continue this regime I think you will be frustrated.

GiSKW Mon 04-Mar-19 21:58:05

I personally feel this little boy is a bit young unless he is showing sure signs that he is ready. I wonder how the timer is to be used? Generally children let you know when they are ready and then the whole process is so much easier.

EthelJ Mon 04-Mar-19 19:36:41

I agree you have to wait until they are ready. One of my grandchildren was 3 before ready and still then had accidents for a while the other was ready at 2 and 7 months and decided himself he didn't want to wear nappies anymore and didn't have any accidents . Is he aware when he is weeing or pooing?

Matthew1 Mon 04-Mar-19 19:05:50

There are stickers that go down the toilet and change colour when 'warm' liquid hits them. Certainly improves the aim of little and big boys ???

GabriellaG54 Mon 04-Mar-19 18:51:43

I used to put mine on a potty in the bathroom or cloakroom about 60-90 minutes after a meal (when they were about 12 months) and I'd sit on the toilet seat and read a story to them.
They got so involved with the stories that 'going' just happened without needing encouragement.
I can't remember doing charts or giving treats, just 'Good boy/girl' and 'Shall we wash our hands then we can go out/play?' Whatever, it worked and took only a couple of weeks before they started handing me a book to read.
I echo some other comments which suggest the parents agreeing to your plans.

Bibbity Mon 04-Mar-19 17:22:32

I do agree with PP. Every other weekend is not enough and could delay the child further. Before starting we spoke to my daughters childminder and nursery and they were both very happy to help. They felt with accidents and continued to encourage my daughter when in their care.
If you start and then parents stop he could turn against the idea.

Daddima Mon 04-Mar-19 17:06:36

I waited till all of ours were able to hold a sensible conversation, and the whole business was done in a couple of days. They were all well over two years old.

Greciangirl Mon 04-Mar-19 16:11:27

My Dd and I always praise dgs, three, when he does what is expected of him on the potty.
So, lots of praise when they do go. That goes a long way.
We often have to remind him to have a wee, but he never wets his pants now.

Farmor15 Mon 04-Mar-19 15:15:21

Just a general comment on toilet training - it seems to be left till later these days, possibly because of convenience of disposable (?) nappies. My own 5 children were all trained between 2 and 2 1/2 - one of them trained herself before 2, just sat on potty and started using it, copying older brother. Others took less than a week to get the hang of it, but we did look for readyness before starting.

First grandchild was trained by 2, in fact she started doing poos in potty before 1 - seemed to prefer it! Parents and (and me, when minding her) would just watch for signs and put her on potty.

There is a significant environmental impact to later toilet training - large number of extra non-recyclable nappies produced, though most people wouldn't consider this aspect. Obviously children mature at different rates, so one can't generalise but I still think lots of children could be trained at a younger age than the current trend.

Momof3 Mon 04-Mar-19 14:37:17

Ok you only have your grandson every other weekend unless Mom has specifically asked you to help and has commited to being consistent at home. It’s none of your business you do not have parental responsibility. In fact I think the outside agencies would not be happy with you confusing the child.

I’m assuming you have the children when they are staying with their Dad therefore Mom is the full time parent.

sarahellenwhitney Mon 04-Mar-19 14:26:07

Luckygirl with you on this. I would only start what I believed in with the parents consent and yes it would have to be continued in the child's home to be successful.

Brigidsdaughter Mon 04-Mar-19 12:34:55

My son is an August child and we did it in summer so no pants. It also meant there was no training - a few accidents when he forgot to go to the potty. Done in a day if ready

BusterTank Mon 04-Mar-19 12:27:53

Putting them on the toilet every hour and praise them if they go . Also ask them to tell you when they need to go in between . Put pants on him and no nappys during the day . Good luck .

Jalima1108 Mon 04-Mar-19 11:43:59

We got the pants and just committed to it.
Yes, you have to set aside a few days when there is nothing much else going on - and probably best if just one person does this until he realises when he needs to go himself.

trisher Mon 04-Mar-19 11:41:06

That should be week not wee- bit strange that came up!

trisher Mon 04-Mar-19 11:40:03

Does he know when he is "performing"? I always think it is easiest to do when you notice the child is doing something to indicate he is aware of something. For poos it's usually a squat in a corner, sometimes a certain expression. If he is then it shoudn't be any bother you just need to put him in pull ups, watch him and be prepared to whip them down and produce potty. If he isn't aware might be best to wait a bit longer. Also as you only have him at weekends will your training be reinforced during the wee? If it isn't it's not worth doing he will just get confused.

Annaram1 Mon 04-Mar-19 10:59:43

I was quite lucky in a way as my children were not too difficult and both were dry by 3 and a half. I did not get involved with my grandchildren's training as their mother did that.
I should just add that my nephew and his wife have 2 quite big children, boy 9 (autistic) girl 7. Their mother is a counsellor. However she has not put much effort into training them. They go to school and come home wet. Luckily for them my nephew's mother in law has gone to live with them and she is training them. Good luck.

Luckygirl Mon 04-Mar-19 09:06:18

If Mum is having little success with potty training, then you taking this on will just confuse him. One thing at one house, one at another. Does the Mum want you to do this?

Bibbity Mon 04-Mar-19 08:46:09

We’ve just potty trained our daughter. She will be 3 in may.
We got the pants and just committed to it.
We Put the potty in the living room and for the first few days she was naked in the house. She got that straight away. There were only one or two accidents from just not getting there in time.
Working up to dry in Clothes took longer but we just had to keep asking and we did get frustrated when we’d ask her she’d say no and then have an accident but we never showed her. Just said oh no you need to go to the toilet.
I’d say it took one month to really get it to where she was asking us to go to every time.

My son who is now 4 was completely different. He was younger, I bought spider man pants. Asked if he wanted them. He very excitedly said yes, I told him he couldn’t wet them and had to use the toilet from then and he just did. Never missed.

BradfordLass72 Mon 04-Mar-19 07:25:56

What they said smile

Don't make it into a task, or have 'reward stars' because if he forgets or doesn't catch it in time, he'll feel bad.

Guilt and reward shouldn't enter into this in my opinion all though a 'Good boy' when he makes it to the potty is nice.

I "trained" my two (and foster children) in summer as well, just leaving potties in lots of places and never minding if there were accidents.

I knew children just don't have the control before two and a half, so three is early-ish but worth a try as the weather gets warmer.

Pants or nakedness, it didn't matter although the youngest always took off his pants anyway ! grin

They all got it by summer's end.

Farmor15 Sun 03-Mar-19 23:59:14

If he’s showing signs of being ready - give it a try. Sometimes I think if people leave it till they’re older, they get lazy and don’t mind being in wet/dirty nappy. Plenty of drinks - well diluted juice is good- to make sure his bladder fills often so he ‘feels the urge’ as Buffybee says.

Buffybee Sun 03-Mar-19 23:51:11

I've not really heard of the timer thing and I think that they have to be trained to 'feel the urge' that they need to go and then sit on the potty/loo.
If her doesn't take to it in a few days, I'd leave it a couple of months and try again.
The main thing, is that he feels no pressure from adults.
Try to make it fun!

Mamma66 Sun 03-Mar-19 23:48:39

There is involvement from outside agencies, they are ‘encouraging’ Mum quite strongly to get him potty trained, she hasn’t had much success, so I thought I could maybe start it off. I might leave it a little while longer; it’s definitely easier when the weather is warmer, it’s just he is showing signs of being ready and he responds so well to positive encouragement. I like good manners and his ‘please and thank you’s are coming on beautifully with praise. Thank you for the tips

Mamma66 Sun 03-Mar-19 23:41:19

I meant to say in my post ‘I hadn’t done potty training for many years’. When I did it I used to use a kitchen timer, so they tried for a wee for a minute or two when the timer went off. I am guessing that people don’t use that method these days ?

Momof3 Sun 03-Mar-19 23:10:15

I’m assuming there is involvement from outside agencies, but I assume you don’t have parental responsibility if you only have the little one every other weekend.

Therefore I think you need to be consulting with whoever is the prime caregiver as they need to be taking the lead on potty training.