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My grandchild will be 2 weeks old before I see her

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HeatherTee Fri 03-Jul-20 10:09:49

Hi - I know that many of you will wonder what’s is so bad about that’; especially if you have grandchildren born at further distance ie. Australia. But that is the issue - we are talking Northern Ireland.
My son and his wife are expecting the birth in about 3 weeks and they are adamant that they want no visitors (even close family) for the first two weeks. Now that lockdown has eased somewhat, we were planning on getting over there as soon as we could. When they gave us this news I couldn’t help feeling very hurt. It’s bad enough that we have to cope with the fact that our daughter in laws parents live only a 45 minute drive away. I am fully expecting that they will not be able to resist a visit albeit very short. Basically, I feel jealous of the other grandparents already and recognise this isn’t good for anyone if I don’t learn to deal with it. Any advice is very welcome.

Nanderin Sat 04-Jul-20 13:40:26

I understand you must feel a bit upset but I would feel exactly the same if I had just had a new baby. I am sure it won't be too long before you see them. You can see them on what's app Skype or zoom.

Sleepygran Sat 04-Jul-20 13:34:01

I can understand why they want to do this. You dil will want to show her best side,and the first couple of weeks,let’s be honest,you are not at your best. You might not mind that but she well might.
I can understand how you feel but two weeks isn’t the end of the world.

Fatarse54 Sat 04-Jul-20 13:26:31

We were in a similar situation 2 years ago with our son and his partner. It was our first grandchild and as they were both 40yrs old we had given up Hope! We had to wait to be invited , then we were ridiculed for my hubby and I taking turns holding him. Our time limit was 1 hour. I know full well that her mother and father visited when they liked which annoyed us but we accepted it. Speaking with other friends who's sons that have become dad's , this seems a normal thing. Yet, when they need a break, who do They ask? Us! We are delighted to have him though. Have n't seen him other than video chats since lockdown. We just have to keep our mouths shut until they need Us! Good luck.

Lolo81 Sat 04-Jul-20 13:25:23

The general consensus on advice here has been consistent. Not sure if OP is still checking this thread, but if so I’d like to ask how often she saw her son/DIL prior to having the baby?
I found with my children that a source of conflict with DH’s family was mismatched expectations around the level of involvement they would have in our life post children. Prior to having our DD/DS we could literally go from one years end to the next without actually seeing them and would have the occasional phone call. This was our normal routine for years. My FOO saw us regularly and we spoke almost daily.
My surprise was that because I had produced a child I was suddenly expected to incorporate my IL’s into my life and accommodate them regularly.
I honestly cannot understand why these people thought they had a right to my time when previously we had seen them maybe once a year and exchanged cards/calls for birthdays. But babies seem to bring out a whole load of expectation in people.
Anyway, back to my point - the level of contact pre-baby should probably be the expectation post baby. Mismatched expectations can cause massive conflict.

Meta Sat 04-Jul-20 13:15:12

My daughter was exhausted by lovely, well meaning visiting during the first two weeks of her first baby’s life. As others have commented that time can be important for parents to establish feeding, rest up if at all possible, and enjoy their child together as a couple. After her second child my daughter established very clear boundaries and took control over visiting- she says it really helped her not to feel on show. As for jealousy, as a mil myself I do understand your feelings- but this is your adult child’s child so always try to go with the flow and show support by other ways, if wanted. Be respectful to your son and daughter in law’s feelings, two weeks is nothing, and even then be aware not to trample over their wishes. That said, enjoy all the happy times coming.

Gramann Sat 04-Jul-20 13:07:46

Totally agree with their request. It's hard enough being new parents and trying to get into a routine, without all and sundry offering a variety of conflicting advice. They know you are on the end of a phone if they need you.

Julielynn Sat 04-Jul-20 12:43:45

I understand.. add this little twist.. I’m jealous of my ex husband’s wife( who has no children of her own ), spending time with my baby granddaughter.. she’s 3 months old now and none of us have gotten to spend hardly any time with her because of the virus, but it drives me crazy, when i do know that they are up visiting and that person is with my GD.
They are on vacation with them this week. They go with me the end of July. I’m not sure how I learn to handle it but I know I need to.

Merryweather Sat 04-Jul-20 12:38:34

The trouble is we are in and out of the hospital these days moms get very little help and support with breastfeeding and getting it established. Mom's get home and generally, visitors don't pop round. They want a cuppa, a cuddle, a meal etc, on no sleep as the wards in the hospital are loud. In reality, mom and baby should be focused on feeding and sleeping to grow and recover. Most of your generation had a week - five days in the hospital with strict visiting hours to do this. Breastfeeding and PND. rates in the UK are abysmal. Though improving now people are having a two-week rest at home.
Two weeks is still newborn, is still perfect and will be nice and plump rested from a good diet of breast milk. Rates improve greatly with support and alone time with the baby who's not exhausted by being passed around or confused about what they need to do to feed. Breastfeeding is a two way street by mom and baby together. They need skin to skin time without the fear grandad or uncle nay pop in while they are half naked and feeding.
Sorry, I did the same this time and it's been much easier. Born April his experience had been limited to dad, sisters and I.

Nusgranny Sat 04-Jul-20 12:36:50

I had my first when I was 34 and in a high powered job. I worked until the day she was born. After the birth I needed time to adjust and to accept that I had a whole new situation to deal with none of which was familiar to me! I got out of hospital after 2 nights and my Mother in Law arrived, unannounced and uninvited the next day saying she would stay as long as I needed her. It ruined our relationship then and forever after. I know you wouldn't interfere but she did and made the bonding process really hard for me. She refused to let my friend, who had a toddler in the house. Took the baby out for walks without asking etc. We ended up having an almighty row and she left full of righteous indignation. We never healed that rift. When I had my third she arrived the next day, with my sister in law, again uninvited, and for the only time in my life I had a full blown migraine. My poor husband felt caught in the middle and it didn't help his relationship with her. Now one of my daughters lives across the road from her -in-laws and I have accepted that they see more of the granddaughter than I do. However it doesn't stop the granddaughter asking for me and loving me.

Folkestone78 Sat 04-Jul-20 12:36:21

I think this is very common too, just go with the flow, don’t enter into any thoughts of which grandparents might see the baby first ..in the end it doesn’t matter.. can’t help thinking that your family will feel it’s the cheery, go with the flow grandparent who makes no demands that are very easy to be with and they will appreciate this. In the meantime keeps smiling no matter what , even if you are feeling different , ( you are not alone, the trick is to smile and say’ yes of course, that sounds like a great idea!!’ Whilst not offering an opinion unless asked??

Naty Sat 04-Jul-20 12:36:06

Oh, and I can tell you that MIL lives around the corner and cannot even deal with seeing baby every other day. She pressured us and guilt tripped us to the point that we had low contact for 2 weeks. Now the in-laws are on board as they understand boundaries. They strained the relationship with too many "not taking nos for an answer". Don't be a clingy mother-in-law and you will get plenty of access on the parents' terms.

moggie57 Sat 04-Jul-20 12:35:30

they need time to get into routine .2 weeks not long to wait ... its their family .dont start this baby's new life with resentment ..your time will come .they need 2 weeks to get into routine and some rest...

PenE Sat 04-Jul-20 12:35:05

My DIL has been the same regarding social distancing.We live at about 10 mins drive away as do her parents.It has been like this since GD was born.They were first visitors to hospital we were asked to wait. They were all over the christening so much so I felt totally pushed out especially when all the pews were filled by DIL family and our relatives were not invited.During lock down during recent good weather we have had visits socially distancing in the garden. No touching! but still lovely to see GD crawling and playing.DIL has just recently gone back to work.I wasn't asked to help out and knowing her mum is doing the childcare 4 days a week stings but I'm doing my best to suck it up! It's hard and being resentful isn't easy to squash but it is what it is. I'm sure that your family are just being over zealous as many new parents can be and I'm sure that you will find it eases soon.Social media is great too for updates and videos and I'm sure you will be soon inundated with pictures!

Naty Sat 04-Jul-20 12:33:18

Don't push or you'll be pushed far out and away from them. Accept this is the way it is as you and all other family members are supportive roles. The parents dictate. They've established this as a boundary, so stick to their rules. If they change their minds, THEY will call you.

razzmatazz Sat 04-Jul-20 12:25:53

I posted my viewpoint earlier which was much the same as others on here but it disappeared . I really don't think you have much support on this . Everything else has been said so no point in my repeating it . It is not . competition between you nd the other grandparents. Just cape it graciously nd keep your counsel. cc

grandtanteJE65 Sat 04-Jul-20 12:25:35

Please, try to look at this from the common sense point of view and get over your hurt feelings.

If we had dared, most of us would have loved to say the same to our mothers when we had children!

The risk of passing on Covid 19 to the new parents ought to make you very thankful that your daughter and son-in-law are being so sensible.

I hope he will have the guts to turn his parents away if they do turn up, or get the ward sister to do so.

Please, don't let this cast a shadow on what should be a happy occasion: the birth of a grandchild.

quizqueen Sat 04-Jul-20 12:01:41

I've never understood this business of not wanting family or
friend visitors when you have a baby. Of course, everyone likes to see a newborn. However, I never made any effort to 'entertain' them. I expected them to make the cups of tea, if just visiting, and if it was family staying for a week or so, again, I expected them to do the shopping and cook the meals and tidy up while I just held my baby and breastfed, constantly it seemed! It worked well and I was sad when they left as both sets of parents lived about 150 miles away,

Nannan2 Sat 04-Jul-20 11:54:27

The maternal GP's dont always get things first, my DinL didnt get on with her own mum well, and has since last year fallen out with her completely, and as she& i have always got along, she calls me mum. Her own parents haven't even been told about the new baby as far as I'm aware (unless her own sister's told them) so you see, its not always the wayhmm

Natasha76 Sat 04-Jul-20 11:52:21

How quickly we forget small mercies if this had happened during lock down it would have been 12 weeks. Be grateful its only 2 weeks.

Scissordolly Sat 04-Jul-20 11:49:08

My first child was born am on Xmas Day. It hadn't been an easy birth to say the least! That afternoon at visiting time there were about 8 visitors around my bed. I felt so exhausted and drained. You must take the mother into account here. Give her time to adjust and she will let you know when she is ready.

Nannan2 Sat 04-Jul-20 11:43:33

It was different back then even when i had mine, (eldest in 1980) but i still had to stay in hospital about 7- 10 days (but i signed myself out after about 5 i think) so everyone got chance to come visit then while you were still in, by time you went home they'd all seen baby!grinBy time i had nxt 4 years on theyd changed ideas and realised mums didnt need to lie in bed as long.so then you went home earlier but then got visitors coming at home to see baby from then on.we were happy& proud to show our baby off.(i was glad it was only family) but still, we didnt just want to keep our child to ourselves.But with this covid19 situation i can completely understand why.hmm the new parents nowadays must be terrified for thier babies, especially after the 13day old baby who got it& died.Those poor parents! It must have petrified those who have given birth since.sad

LuckyFour Sat 04-Jul-20 11:40:40

A friend of mine was in a similar position. Her daughter's in-laws live nearby but she lives 200 miles away. The in-laws saw baby first but my friend waited four weeks to see new baby. She had a lovely time. Keep good relationships with son and daughter-in-law and support all their decisions. Be the best mother/mother-in-law and never interfere or challenge their decisions.
I have found this way works. I have four grandchildren and good relationships with my daughters and son-in-laws, but we don't live in each other's pockets.

GreenGran78 Sat 04-Jul-20 11:40:37

I nursed my widowed MIL through cancer, while pregnant with my first baby. She died just before he was born. My own parents lived 20 miles away, with no car, and showed little interest in their first GC. I knew nothing about babies, and would have loved someone to be there, to help with a very difficult first year. Looking back, I suffered with post-natal depression, which wasn’t recognised then. Nowadays fathers are much more hands-on, and usually take parental leave, so new mothers don’t feel nearly as isolated and stressed as I did.

You will soon be able to see the new baby, but I hope that you will respect their rules, and not put any of them at risk.
You say that you are jealous of the other GPS. If you can’t be friendly with them it doesn’t bode well for your future relationship with your DIL. My new GS was born in Australia 6 weeks ago, and my planned visit was, of course, cancelled. They have kept in touch as much as possible with Messenger chats, and photos and videos. The other GP live just down the road. There is no social distancing in WA, as they are Covid-free, so they visit, and cuddle several times a week.
I consider them to be dear friends, not rivals, and always stay with them for part of my visits. Yes, I envy their proximity to the new baby, but jealousy has never been in my mind.

I hope that you can relax, and just look forward to the time when you can see your new GC without risking his health. New babies are pretty boring anyway! ?

Nannan2 Sat 04-Jul-20 11:27:24

I have got a new GD she was 2wks old yesterday.(but was born at 34 weeks, so a bit early) and now shes home, but my son and DinL said the same, theyre keeping her to just them& their other 3kids for a bit, as they dont want to take any risks as shes early..it was my birthday yesterday and i had originally intended to go over today & booked a room,(they're in next county) but as they've said this and also my 2 youngest sons (live with me,17&21) said they don't want to go visiting others yet) I've had to cancel, and had to accept this.so i guess you will have to as well? I did get to have 1 hour at my eldest DD's and see some of my other GC (22yrs,21yrs, &6) but older ones said hello briefly and i read a story to youngest.then they gave me my cards& flowers,& i left after a bit,but it was lovely all the same, great birthday gift for me.but id not seen them in months, and it still felt odd, we didn't even take a photo, their youngest wanted a kiss but i could only blow her one, from a distance, not same at all? ive still got other GC too that i wont still see for awhile. (My son took me to daughters but sat in his car for the full hour, such is the fear of catching anything still in him& his brother)hmm

focused1 Sat 04-Jul-20 11:25:20

I feel 2 weeks is reasonable. As a Mum with 5 sons I wanted to get used to my new born children .I tended to be exhausted when I had early visitors however helpful they tried to be. I didn't want my child passed round and new babies sleep a lot and this was then my free time .
With this virus new parents will be terrified. I would actually be doubling the time - at least.