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New grandma feeling left out and inadequate

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Maymay1963 Tue 20-Oct-20 10:23:53

Apologies for this very long post.... Since the birth of my first granddaughter 3 months ago I find myself struggling with my emotions (having always been strong and infact quite dismissive of others who struggle with emotions!).. My youngest son and I were extremely close even after he left home after Uni to move in with his (now) wife - who by the way is just lovely! However things seem to be changing. They live an hour away - my husband and I both work full time, so whilst we try to visit every weekend that’s not always possible (especially with our local COVID lockdowns etc) Her parents live near us but already have 2 grandchildren living in the same area as our children - they are semi retired and pretty wealthy - they have continued to visit weekly even breaking lockdown restrictions to do so. When allowed they all went on a family holiday in the summer so got to spend quality time with our granddaughter. We like our sons in-laws very much and are pleased they love our son so much BUT I have the green eyed monster inside me! I hate to admit that I’m feeling jealous of the time they can spend and that they can afford to pay for everyone to go on holiday together! When I had some leave in August I asked if I could visit and maybe stay to spend more time and maybe help with bath time and to bond with her (they have spare rooms but I was happy to stay in a local hotel to give them space) but my son said it wasn’t convenient! I have another week off now so I asked again if I could visit and maybe stay over again, only to be rejected again! They are happy for us to make day trip visit though and always welcome us but these trips feel rushed. Our granddaughter won’t let either of us hold her without screaming but they’ve told me that her other grandma can settle her down easily! On top of this, even before she was born I offered to drop a day of work per week and make the 2 hour round trip once a week to take care of my granddaughter when her mum goes back to work next year but that was also rejected as they have already arranged for her parents to do 1 day and put the baby in nursery for 2 days. I am not very forceful and don’twant to create any bad feeling so I just bite my tongue but I’m pretty tearful all the time over what feels like a rejection by my own son.

Summerlove Tue 27-Oct-20 20:10:32

Harriet4

It’s so hard being the paternal grandparents. You will always feel left out and won’t have such a close relationship with your grandchild. It’s heartbreaking. Yes it’s natural for your DIL to gravitate more towards her own mother especially if their relationship is good, but you are often left out in the cold and rebuffed if you ask to share in your grandchild’s life.
It’s best not to push too much but it is painful when you have overwhelming love for your precious grandchild. You may always be the last resort when they ask for help and feel very left out.
It hurts, because that is where we find ourselves.

This is why you need to build a good relationship with you son and DIL.

Your son will be more willing to invite you over.

A woman on her own time can see whoever she chooses. It’s not a slight against paternal grandparents

Chewbacca Tue 27-Oct-20 01:59:41

Typical! grin

MissAdventure Tue 27-Oct-20 00:51:32

What? I never saw you sleeping at my nans!
She's mine. Find your own. grin

Chewbacca Tue 27-Oct-20 00:48:58

Me too MissA!

MissAdventure Tue 27-Oct-20 00:36:29

I used to love sleeping at my nans, and she lived 6 doors away. smile

Chewbacca Tue 27-Oct-20 00:14:49

However, you just updated again and admitted to decorating a room in your home and buying a cot. You live one hour away, why would this be necessary?

The OP has the right to decorate a room in her own home in any way she chooses; if she wants to put a cot, a futon or a double bed in it, that's her prerogative. But having done that, she can't force anyone to go and sleep in it. As for you live one hour away, why would this be necessary? I live less than 10 minutes away from my GC and they squabble over who's turn it is to have a sleepover at Granny's house!

Harriet4 Tue 27-Oct-20 00:00:32

It’s so hard being the paternal grandparents. You will always feel left out and won’t have such a close relationship with your grandchild. It’s heartbreaking. Yes it’s natural for your DIL to gravitate more towards her own mother especially if their relationship is good, but you are often left out in the cold and rebuffed if you ask to share in your grandchild’s life.
It’s best not to push too much but it is painful when you have overwhelming love for your precious grandchild. You may always be the last resort when they ask for help and feel very left out.
It hurts, because that is where we find ourselves.

Summerlove Sun 25-Oct-20 13:55:24

I don’t see decorating/having a cot as a huge overstep assuming “you” werent told not to and don’t put pressure/guilt on parents to use it.

My mother had a room set up for my kids, but if she’d every guilted me over them not using it, I’d have told her it was her choice to pay to set it up, not mine.

MarchMom19 Sat 24-Oct-20 18:05:09

As a recent new mom, I will tell you that I would have gone nuts if my MIL tried to visit every weekend. I probably would have told her off by the 2nd weekend. New families need time to themselves to adjust, to learn their new normal. Without visitors, even if you consider yourself family and not a visitor. You are a visitor in their home.

Your first update saying that you read the comments & would readjust your expectations was hopeful. However, you just updated again and admitted to decorating a room in your home and buying a cot. You live one hour away, why would this be necessary? Your DIL likely feels like you’ve overstepped. I would if I were her. I’m incredibly close to my parents and even they didn’t do that. Your expectations are much too high. This is THEIR baby, not yours. You need to accept their very reasonable boundaries before you find yourself only being allowed to visit once a quarter.

V3ra Wed 21-Oct-20 17:48:23

We have one granddaughter (4y).
Paternal grandmother isn't hands-on involved, her choice, although she's local to them.
We are the maternal grandparents who treat them to holidays, do bathtime and stories (always granddaughter's choice as to who gets the honour!), sleepovers (not currently obviously). We're also the ones at a distance.
Even so we don't visit or them come to us more often than every month to six weeks generally. Daughter and partner both work and have their own things to do at the weekends, as do we.
When we do visit we stay in a hotel so no extra work for them.

Just give your son and daughter-in-law time, let them find their feet and let them set the pace. Make sure when you do go that you take a cake, or offer to treat them to a takeaway or even babysit for the evening, don't forget you're visiting mum and dad as well.
Congratulations to all of you ?

Hithere Wed 21-Oct-20 17:32:24

Spot on, dances with others

That jumped out to me too

DancesWithOtters Wed 21-Oct-20 17:02:24

Ah. This is possibly a bit of a red flag:

"We have decorated a spare room and bought a cot"

Have a wander over to Mumsnet and see the posts about this from the other perspective. New mums really do not seem to like it when their DM/MIL buys a cot and decorates a room in their own house, it's seen as pushy and presumptuous, and it puts pressure on them. It's not your baby, it's theirs. You don't need a nursery and a cot. I think most new mums feel very protective of their baby and are very sensitive to DM/MIL trying to over-involve themselves.

ClareAB Wed 21-Oct-20 14:38:03

Maymay1963

ClaireAB - My children have house keys and have always behaved as if this was still their home which we encourage, We have decorated a spare room and bought a cot... they know they can stay whenever they choose. When they visit they usually pop in to see us for lunch before heading off to spend the rest of the day and overnight with her family. We are grateful for their visit.

That's great. smile

GagaJo Wed 21-Oct-20 09:22:02

Oops, sorry! Wrong page. Ignore my comment please.

GagaJo Wed 21-Oct-20 09:20:34

While it is sad for your MiL, she is unfortunately reaping what she's sowed. To be so lost in her 50s ( the age I am now) is unfortunate. Most people that age are still looking ahead to another 10-15 years of work.

If she's never worked, there is little chance of her finding paid employment, but maybe she chould consider volutary work. It sounds as if she needs to be needed. So many organisations would welcome her with open arms. Schools, as 121 reading support, hospital visiting, charities. It sounds as if she loves children, so something with them.

Such a sad thing, to have nothing of her own life other than her children.

Maymay1963 Wed 21-Oct-20 08:07:48

ClaireAB - My children have house keys and have always behaved as if this was still their home which we encourage, We have decorated a spare room and bought a cot... they know they can stay whenever they choose. When they visit they usually pop in to see us for lunch before heading off to spend the rest of the day and overnight with her family. We are grateful for their visit.

Maymay1963 Wed 21-Oct-20 08:03:00

Thank you so much to those respondents who felt the need to point out that we are living with a deadly virus (incase I had forgotten) I must put your minds at rest and let you know that our visits are and were ALWAYS within the guidelines which I do refer to in my post. Thank you

Blencathra Wed 21-Oct-20 07:38:51

A sensible post from Nansnet . Remember you are there for the long game and you have plenty of time to make the relationship. Just make sure that you have a nice time with your granddaughter when you see her.
I am surprised that people seem to have ignored lockdown rules. We didn’t see our grandson for 17 weeks. He wasn’t talking at the start of lockdown , and not much interested in FaceTime, and there was a huge difference afterwards as he now chats away and we are firm favourites.
I discovered with a volunteering job that all you have to do with a toddler to become best friend is to give them your undivided attention. The other grandparents may see more of them but it is quality not quantity that counts.
You make your own relationship- don’t compare.

Nansnet Wed 21-Oct-20 06:42:41

I totally understand how you are feeling, as I went through the exact same emotions myself when our first GC came along. We've always had a great relationship with our son, DiL, and her parents but, unfortunately, I let my emotions run away with me, and started to compare the other GPs, and the time they spent with our GC, to us. I'm not proud to say that I became jealous and upset. Occasionally, not without reason, but that's another story.

I pulled my emotions into check, and I'm delighted to say that we all now have a great family relationship ... in-laws included. Take it from one who knows, it's completely natural for emotions to run high at times like this. However, I now realize that it's really not worth getting yourself so upset, or jealous over. I bitterly regret allowing myself to feel that way.

You'll have years to forge a relationship with your lovely grandchild, so let your son and DiL have time to settle into their new roles as parents, and just simply let them know that they can always ask for your help if they need you anytime. . just And, whenever you want to visit, always check with them first to make sure it's convenient, and if it isn't, just ask them to let you know when it would be.

Most importantly, never, ever compare yourselves to the other grandparents. I remember my own grandparents, who had completely different backgrounds, one set wealthy, the others poor but happy. I used to do completely different things with them, but I adored them all equally. And the same goes for my own children with their grandparents.

ClareAB Wed 21-Oct-20 02:42:11

Why don't you invite them over to yours for a night, or lunch... Having visitors is stressful with a baby. They might jump at the chance to have a meal cooked for them and a bit of spoiling.

Norah Wed 21-Oct-20 02:22:53

Is this a wind up. Follow coronavirus guidelines.

FarNorth Wed 21-Oct-20 01:53:29

New Zealand, maybe?

Hetty58 Wed 21-Oct-20 01:17:46

I'm amazed by these posts where the Coronavirus situation seems to be largely ignored.

Where is this magical place where it doesn't exist and families still visit as usual and hug grandchildren?

I really want to know!

Oopsminty Wed 21-Oct-20 00:56:53

Hi Maymay1963

I am sure that all will sort itself out for you and you'll be able to enjoy your lovely granddaughter as she grows

Some anecdotal evidence from me ... for what it's worth!

I had my second child child, ( first child for Mr. Minty) and was rather peculiar for a while after his birth!

I just didn't want to see anyone really. My Mum was never pushy to visit but MIL was constantly on at us to come round.

I just didn't want her to!

One day she'd phoned, spoke to my DH and he put the phone down and said she was coming round

Well I just looked indignant. Scooped up my baby, popped him in the pram and I just left the house!

Looking back that was very odd behaviour but sometimes we can go a bit wonky.

I had no problem with my in-laws. I just didn't want them round until I was ready.

Good luck to you anyway and look forward to spending time with your family when they're more settled smile

Maymay1963 Wed 21-Oct-20 00:25:11

I have read all your comments with interest and am really grateful to everyone for their observations and advice . I hadn’t really considered that I was perhaps suffocating them with my regular visits so that felt a bit uncomfortable to hear... I will definitely step back and allow them the space to find their way as a new young family. I know how ridiculous it is to feel envious of my sons in-laws and hearing some of your comments (as harsh as some of them were!) really will help me put things into perspective. I keep telling myself to get a grip and reading your responses will force me to do that. Thanks again all!