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Generation Gap Boomer v Millennial !!!

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Lizzy60 Fri 27-Aug-21 15:32:39

Is it me or is the gap wider with regard to attitudes than its been between previous generations ? At nearly 60, I'm finding everything I believe in is opposite to my '30 something' children !

Newmom101 Tue 31-Aug-21 20:28:03

They have fewer concerns about an imminent nuclear war and were never taught at school how to hide under their desks if such an attack took place.

I’m in my 30s and never grew up with this but have now taught similar. We have to teach ‘lockdown’ procedures in school (including hiding under desks) in the event of a terror attack on the school. I feel quite sorry for their generation and the knowledge of terror attacks they have at such a young age.

On the note of materialism I would say I’m not as bad as my mother (in her 50s) as I but more used/second hand whereas she prefers everything new. She’s not very eco concerned and loves to go on cruises multiple holidays abroad each year. And I tend to cook from scratch whereas I grew up with ‘freezer food’ but I think that’s because she didn’t enjoy cooking.

I wonder if it’s more about her not having grown up with those luxuries, had mostly hand-me-downs as a child etc, so enjoying them now, whereas I did so I’m not that bothered by them.

freedomfromthepast Tue 31-Aug-21 20:30:12

Whatdayisit

freedomfromthepast I understand what you are saying but probably the majority of boomers had Gen X children. I know later boomers have had millenials too. I'm Gen X and I have 2 Millenials and 1 Gen Z I get on with all equally but in different ways. I think I brought the millenials up more materiastically and although they were young in the 1990s recession the 2008 crash probably affected the direction I took my Gen Z child in. Then I also was given a Gen Z grandchild and he gets on with his Aunty really well sense of humour etc.
I read a while ago and can't prove it that Gen X parents brought up there millenials to be more independent than boomers did.

Also early Boomers possibly had stricter parents who had been brought up by Victorians as well as the effect of the wars and depression.

I like being Gen X I feel we are independent and aloof!

After another poster mentioned the younger and older Boomers, it made sense. You are correct.

I love being Gen X, mostly because we are left alone because the media likes to pit Boomers and Millennials against each other. It is all utter nonsense if you ask me. A made up battle to increase ratings IMO. As I said, every household is different so every story is different.

Each generation throughout history has had differences, because each generation. This is nothing new.

freedomfromthepast Tue 31-Aug-21 20:31:25

Oops, that should have said because each generation learns new ways and has new technology.

Whatdayisit Wed 01-Sept-21 23:16:07

Newmom101 - yes my 1st husband and father to 2 said they could have everything (not anything) because (born in Glasgow 1951 family of 8) he had nothing.

I think that was an attitude of boomer parents.

DiamondLily Tue 07-Sept-21 14:21:27

I enjoy being with my 4 grandchildren (teen/young adults), as they will discuss so much. They tell us anything about anything - bit unlike generations before, that used to be more buttoned up around their grandparents.

They help us with the latest technology, and are good company. Keep us young lol

I feel sorry for them really - affordable housing is a nightmare, unlike in the 70’s, when I started out. We live in London/NW Kent, and prices are currently eye watering. They are well paid, but it’s not easy.

Plus, no good final salary pension schemes any more.

On the other hand, their expectations are higher - designer clothes, latest gadgets, new cars etc.

I have to confess we do help them out a lot - my grandparents weren’t ever in a position to help me, and I’d like the grandkids to enjoy life while they’re young. They’ve had 18 months of restrictions as it is.

Every generation is slightly different, people are all different, and I don’t think you can compare.

Rosycheeks Tue 07-Sept-21 15:44:36

Ive just been on mumsnet and the way they talk about us older folk its like we should all be pushing up the daisys after you hit 60. They really hate OAPs its like they will never get older. Why do they dislike us so much. I hate being called a baby boomer too.

M0nica Tue 07-Sept-21 16:54:16

if I could be bothered with mumsnet. I would just keep reminding them how soon they will be 60. I mean most of them have had their children in their middle/late 30s, so it is racing up on them fast.

My lovely DDiL had her children at 37 and 40. The youngest started secondary school today. She will soon be 52. Now she is a lovely, lovely person kind and compassionate and we have a close relationship - and I am too old to even be a baby boomer, so the problem is not one I face. But it wouldn't hurt these silly women to be reminded of this.

M0nica Tue 07-Sept-21 16:55:06

If nothing else they will be menopausal, and thats when the declins sets in. He he.

Rosycheeks Tue 07-Sept-21 18:06:07

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Sweetpeasue Tue 07-Sept-21 19:37:35

Thanks Rosycheeks. Just taken a look at Mumsnet.
It seems that OAPs are hated in a way I can honestly say frightens me enormously.
I don't believe I've come across such a huge division of generations, young versus old in my life.
I completely agree with those who believe it would have been so much fairer to increase income tax, preferably on higher earners. This would include pensioners with large private pensions.
Some of the young appear to have fallen for the media propaganda that ALL pensioners are well off.
It's very scary.

Rosycheeks Tue 07-Sept-21 21:11:04

I know Sweetpeasue. It is terrible the way they think every OAP is rich and we dont deserve a pension because we live too long. Such nastyness shurely they all have elderly parents. How has it got so bad. Im not going to feel guilty because I have a state pension and works pension which I have worked and paid for all my working life. Im not rich by any means. I deserve what ive worked for. They are so bitter. This ageism is nearly as bad as racism which is against the law.

M0nica Tue 07-Sept-21 21:28:52

The people on MN are a self selected group with a common problem. They are not a representative group of their generation or anything else.

Don't waste your time reading their bizarre view on life. Just look around at your family, of other people you know or work with. People with beloved parents and grand parents and then find something else to do with your time.

DiamondLily Wed 08-Sept-21 09:41:29

I actually find MumsNet (or MumNuts as it’s known lol), to be quite harmful, if some younger women actually follow the advice given on there.

I’m not talking about parental abuse, past or present, and I’m not talking about domestic abuse - they are different.

I’m talking about when someone asks about something usual or trivial, that occurs in most long term relationships. They all ebb and flow over the years, and take work to sustain.

“Husband doesn’t vacuum etc he gets home from work? He’s abusive. Leave him, and take the kids with you. You must have been bought up to see abuse as normal, so seek therapy to see if your parents also need to be excommunicated.”

“MIL has a good, very close relationship with DH/DP? He’s a mummy’s boy, best curtail that, or leave him/go no contact with MIL.”

“Mother or MIL too keen on seeing the GC, keep visiting and then spoil them? They are undermining you, and that’s a form of coercion. Cut contact and seek therapy.”

Male partners and older parents get the blame all the time, regardless. There seems to be a lot of people, giving advice on there, who must be either bitter/angry or just like trying to try and trash other relationships from the safety of a keyboard.

Most (not all) of these issues could be dealt with after a frank discussion and a little compromise.

GrammarGrandma Wed 08-Sept-21 10:56:33

My daughters are 39, 41 and 44; I am 76. So I am a Boomer but they are not Millennials. We have much in common politically and they are certainly feminists like me. So I don't feel there is a gap.

Witzend Wed 08-Sept-21 11:17:22

Our dds are a bit older than millennials, but I do have a lot of sympathy for younger people, particularly with regard to the cost of housing - whether to buy or rent. It is so often way more expensive now and eats up a huge chunk of average earnings.

Yes, I know interest rates have been insane in the past, but hat least it was easier to save a deposit. Of course it’s going to depend a lot on where you live, but anywhere around here, even a 2 bed flat - not in an especially ‘desirable’ area, either - can easily cost £500k.

annifrance Wed 08-Sept-21 11:51:44

In general my DCs and I have the same views on the world out there. I think they have had it tougher than we had. Jobs were available for us, further education was free, many of us were able to buy our own properties very early on.

I think the big difference is technology. Yes I can do it to a certain extent, but I am not up to the mark on most things. I have repeatedly told my son I do not have a posh smart phone because we do not have a mobile signal here. I know I can use Whatsapp through wifi when I am in the house to text. But why would I? He said so you can text me, your friends, DH. I call/email friends, DH is usually near me, the only person I would text is him or possibly my daughter. I prefer to FB messenger, call or email, it works for me. He cannot get his head around this!!

Granmarderby10 Wed 08-Sept-21 12:15:51

Newmom101 about charity shops/second hand and the like yes I have long thought that too. Although I notice Charity Shopping has become very acceptable for people who are “ reasonably comfortably off” I think this is because of the quality of the stuff donated coupled with the fact that most charity shops are managed like regular retail establishments. The seedy image has long gone but nothing costs just pennies any longer so swings and roundabouts. I know people born 1950s and earlier who won’t touch charity shop stuff with a barge pole and shudder at the thought. It’s definitely the old connotations of poverty.

songstress60 Wed 08-Sept-21 13:09:33

Sick of millennials and their entitled behaviour and the cancel culture. They are offended at everything so you are afraid to open your mouth. Well I am a very outspoken person who constantly clashes with my 25 year old niece. She is so easily offended it's untrue. The woke generation want to stop the wonderful musical "Grease" being shown on tv stating that it's offensive!! What! They said it's bullying and sexist. It was set in the 1950's you wusses!

katy1950 Wed 08-Sept-21 13:17:30

Totally agree with you katie59

Gabrielle56 Wed 08-Sept-21 17:57:53

I've suspected for a while that the younger gens have far far too much information! Youngsters from age of about 12 suffer from
info overload I'm sure. There's a lot to be said for "on a need to know basis" and "too much information can be dangerous" sayings that can be adapted from cold war times to now. Thy all appear to feel it's all their problem to solve-and it isn't. It's a bit unfair really that they're bombarded with the nasty things in life far too soon and not allowed to just be-young. I think successive gangs of out of touch politicians have ruined most things for all of us.system needs to change so more practically experienced and socially aware leaders get a look in. I can dream I suppose?

growstuff Wed 08-Sept-21 18:01:24

songstress60

Sick of millennials and their entitled behaviour and the cancel culture. They are offended at everything so you are afraid to open your mouth. Well I am a very outspoken person who constantly clashes with my 25 year old niece. She is so easily offended it's untrue. The woke generation want to stop the wonderful musical "Grease" being shown on tv stating that it's offensive!! What! They said it's bullying and sexist. It was set in the 1950's you wusses!

Nothing like massive stereotyping, eh? wink

growstuff Wed 08-Sept-21 18:05:32

Gabrielle56

I've suspected for a while that the younger gens have far far too much information! Youngsters from age of about 12 suffer from
info overload I'm sure. There's a lot to be said for "on a need to know basis" and "too much information can be dangerous" sayings that can be adapted from cold war times to now. Thy all appear to feel it's all their problem to solve-and it isn't. It's a bit unfair really that they're bombarded with the nasty things in life far too soon and not allowed to just be-young. I think successive gangs of out of touch politicians have ruined most things for all of us.system needs to change so more practically experienced and socially aware leaders get a look in. I can dream I suppose?

I disagree with you. We often hear the word "democracy" bandied about. A functioning democracy needs people to be informed, so people understand the consequences of their votes. Uninformed people result in populist governments, which can manipulate public opinion to suit minorities.

Gabrielle56 Wed 08-Sept-21 18:08:08

I've heard it's like you state! These people sounds literally off their rockers!(can I say that nowadays?) Wonder if they really think that knee jerk hysteria is the solution to relationship issues, or even a gentle query? Sounds as if they watch too much trash on whatever they watch. Pity the kids of these idiots.

Ydoc Wed 08-Sept-21 18:34:16

Seems to me that this generation were often spoilt and we are suffering the consequences. They are much more concerned with themselves to the exclusion of others. No matter how busy i was there was always time for mum and dad, you made time. They expect much more, they also know everything and your experience is worthless. These are not just my conclusions but ones ive heard repeatedly.

Pedwards Wed 08-Sept-21 18:39:35

?same!