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Omicron Christmas

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britgran Wed 15-Dec-21 18:53:14

Can I ask, are any of you changing your Christmas plans, I'm so confused as to whether we stay at home or go to our two sons, one each day, my DH has some health issues and is vulnerable we are both fully jabbed x

grandmac Thu 16-Dec-21 11:21:39

My granddaughter was not well on Saturday evening, did an LFT which was negative. We all did tests on the Sunday, all negative. I did another one on Monday as I was seeing my sister, again negative. Monday night I was coughing and felt unwell so did another test on Tuesday, again negative. Had a really bad night on Tuesday so another test Wednesday morning and lo and behold it's positive. So everybody tested and my granddaughter (9) plus my daughter are also positive. Luckily not her husband or the 5 year old ....yet. It's a mystery why we were all negative despite having symptoms, and then suddenly showed positive when we were feeling a bit better. Waiting for results of PCR but it has meant we missed youngest granddaughter's first Nativity angry sad and have had to cancel Christmas plans for the second year running. But I'm grateful that we seem to have had mild illness and for vaccines.

Tezhar Thu 16-Dec-21 11:20:52

I think you’ll find that Omricon will change your plans for you. My son and his gf have just caught covid. (In there early 30’s, Double jabbed and had covid previously). So no Xmas day with family for them. You’ll not really know what your Xmas day will look like until the day. We are two family members down. And I wouldn’t be suprised if more end up a close contacts or infected. Merry blooming Xmas everyone! ???

Nannapat1 Thu 16-Dec-21 11:16:16

Already have only arranged to have Christmas Day with immediate family so can't really get any smaller.

sandelf Thu 16-Dec-21 11:14:35

Err - What Christmas plan? It's one day at a time here - no different really from what we've done for months. Complex decisions though - who has X mixed with in the past week? Who do they have to meet in the following week? Do they care about catching or not? (We have a 89 year old friend - bad health, ex nurse, knows what she's doing - mixing at anything she fancies - clearly has decided that if CV19 comes for her she'll go) - sure she's not the only one.

Cymres1 Thu 16-Dec-21 11:13:54

grannyrebel7

Yes "flow before you go" is the order of the day. It makes sense and gives you a bit of reassurance.

What a great way to put it! I shall pinch that phrase if that's OK. Definitely the safest way, but we're limiting things we go to as well. This variant is a huge, rapid unknown, and so many people put their own pleasure before community safety. Pleased to see the Gransnet folks are generally taking a level-headed pragmatic stance, instead of the Me.Me.Me take on things.
As for the utter stupidity of the Partying at No.10 and, no doubt, plenty of other events out of sight last year that haven't come to light yet, I can't understand the attitude of some people interviewed who think that makes it fine to do the same. Surely they get that BECAUSE it's wrong they should be better than that, and NOT behave like a bunch of "entitled" total fools. If I hear one more selfish, ridiculous person say "if they can get away with it..."
I will throw something at the tv.

Soniah Thu 16-Dec-21 11:09:07

No change if we are allowed to meet with family, flow before you go is order of the day

polnan Thu 16-Dec-21 11:04:28

may not be part of this discussion, but I have to say that I doubt, seriously doubt the Governments statistics.. several reasons why, but
as an example

this morning, my daily post produced ANOTHER letter from the NHS urging me to book and get my flu jab, which I had several weeks ago... so if no records are kept of that.. what??
and I do wonder where all these people who are included in the statistics as having the covid virus, where do they continually come from? are people really queueing up to get these tests? and are the tests reliable..?

and an NOT an antivaccine person, I believe in it.. to the point that if if should become compulsory I would applaud,, but.....

icanhandthemback Thu 16-Dec-21 11:02:17

I suspect that we will encourage my Mum to come on another day but we always have the 6 children, their partners and our 9 grandkids around on Boxing Day (except for last year of course) and, unless the rules change, it will be no different. I was happy to break it into 2 sessions but there were howls of anguish at the thought of it as it is the one time a year which we all manage to attend as a family. In some ways I was quite heartened. I really thought it was something that was a chore to the kids.

MayBeMaw Wed 15-Dec-21 23:57:34

Thanks Calistemon -along the lines of “This couldn’t happen to me”/I don’t do ill “ I am reasonably confident it will be negative - but who am I kidding? It could be any of us and there are some very (dare I say) gung-ho and complacent people around on GN and elsewhere who seem similarly confident in their immunity.

nandad Wed 15-Dec-21 23:39:14

DH had symptoms for about a week but tested negative twice using a LFT. It was when I tested positive and he did a PCR that we realised that what we thought was a cold was actually Covid.

Chestnut Wed 15-Dec-21 23:08:19

Right back in March 2020 I was very concerned about this virus because it can incubate for about 10 days maybe more. A normal cold or 'flu takes about 48 hours I believe. That anyone can be infectious for 10 days before even having symptoms is why it has spread so easily.

Calistemon Wed 15-Dec-21 23:04:21

MayBeMaw ? your PCR test is negative.

We stocked up today with some Christmas food just in case, having been for a hospital appointment. The hospital staff (dozens of them in the corridor) looked as if they were heading for a big meeting so I thought they might be preparing for worst case scenario.

Calistemon Wed 15-Dec-21 22:51:56

Germanshepherdsmum

What worries me is people who have been mixing with others on Xmas day and before, then coming to us Boxing Day. I'm not sure a LFT done Boxing Day morning would show anything picked up the previous day?

I'd like to know that too, as we were told at the very beginning that Covid could take up to 14 days to incubate.
Of course, someone could be symptomless yet still carry and pass on the infection.

We mustn't forget that it's not just the Omicron variant which is circulating.

MayBeMaw Wed 15-Dec-21 22:40:23

Sorry to rain on any parades, but just undertaking LFTs or planning to before meeting up is not really enough.
I was “pinged” yesterday and immediately did an LFT which was negative. But it doesn’t stop there.
I was told I should book a PCR which I did today and may get my result tomorrow or maybe Friday.
Should it be positive I am not clear in time to go to D and family on Christmas Eve , maybe Christmas Day but I am not sure about even that. I feel fine, I have no symptoms so I may be in the clear but it has made me realise that I should not go anywhere between now and Christmas. Were this scenario to be repeated any time between now and Christmas and it’s Goodnight Vienna and a microwave turkey dinner on my own for me. I have been practical and sensible up to now abiding by the regulations but not “hiding “away from this virus. But it is incredibly invasive and good intentions are no longer enough.
It makes it more real somehow.

SachaMac Wed 15-Dec-21 22:06:45

We were all hoping to stick with our plans for a big family lunch at my eldest daughters. This week there have been several confirmed Covid cases in her sons Year 6 class so things could well change. Today my 86 year old mother has decided she will stay at home on her own, she is triple jabbed but is still very worried as she has underlying health issues. Only ten days to go till the big day but Omicron is spreading rapidly so who knows!? Makes you wonder what 2022 will bring.

BigBertha1 Wed 15-Dec-21 22:03:49

Not changing any plans here yet apart from not attendance ng the two Carol services and NYE party we had booked.

Woodmouse Wed 15-Dec-21 21:06:06

Us two and two of the kids coming to stay for several days. No change of plans here.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 15-Dec-21 21:04:18

Anyone know how soon you are infectious after getting covid.

So does the flow test show positive as soon as you’ve caught covid?

Allsorts Wed 15-Dec-21 21:04:06

I just hope no one is unwell and myself too, if we are all ok will be with family for lunch.

NotTooOld Wed 15-Dec-21 21:02:48

We're waiting a few days before deciding but, if we do go, we will all do the LFT before meeting up. I hope we go as, for various reasons, we have not seen the DGC for two years.
I'm afraid I do not know the answer to your question, Germanshepherdsmum, although my guess would be yes, it would show up.

kittylester Wed 15-Dec-21 21:00:55

Well, theoretically, there should be 20 of us from 6 households - not sure how we sort that out.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 15-Dec-21 19:23:36

What worries me is people who have been mixing with others on Xmas day and before, then coming to us Boxing Day. I'm not sure a LFT done Boxing Day morning would show anything picked up the previous day?

grannyrebel7 Wed 15-Dec-21 19:09:34

Yes "flow before you go" is the order of the day. It makes sense and gives you a bit of reassurance.

Hetty58 Wed 15-Dec-21 19:05:08

We've already had our big family meet up and Christmas dinner on Saturday (kids and grandkids). We all test twice weekly, shop online, use masks and distancing - and will have our individual, one-family 'do's on the day. I'm glad we organised things that way.

AreWeThereYet Wed 15-Dec-21 19:00:46

As a family we always test before we visit people. And they test before we arrive! We don't want to start passing Covid around the family, having avoided it for over a year.

Before we visit people who are vulnerable we usually stay in for a few days as well, and don't see anyone, so we know we won't pick anything up at the last minute to stop our visit.