DIL posh family - advice needed

Joseann - my morning room has become part of my kitchen

I hadn't come across that Monica. All in all it doesn't seem to have been such a "weird" word.

My grandmother, an Irish immigrant, born into poverty and making her own way in the world, always referred to the living room as the 'drawing room'

I haven't come across a house where a "drawing room" was the name of the only reception room
Well that's your experience but not necessarily that of other people.
Like mine.
Proves nothing.
This is getting so tedious.

M0nica

Drawing room is just one of the many names for a room where people mainly relax and sit. Lounge, living room, drawing room, sitting room, salon, reception room, parlour, front room. All have different origins, that deep in the annals of time may have had social connotations, but nowadays, who cares?

Call it anything you like, personally I say living room or sitting room.

I dont think you would if you have both a living room and sitting room already. I haven't come across a house where a "drawing room" was the name of the only reception room.

We had a house with a Drawing Room and three other main reception rooms. There are always some names you aren't comfortable with and it really was a beautiful Victorian addition to a very old house. It suited Drawing Room and was used mainly when we were entertaining. It worked for us and really, in the end what others think is of little consequence if you are comfortable. I still can't think what else we could or would have called it.

Maybe I could spice the salon up a bit for you?
Forget the discussions.

kittylester

A salon just sounds like a better class of saloon but much less fun.

I think I'd prefer a saloon myself, kittylester

Baggs

The teacup is made by Tenmokus and is Chinese. So now we drink green tea from a Japanese teapot (the "terrorist" one that caused problems at Heathrow for MrB 😅) and from two of these gorgeous cups – MrB's xmas present to me.

I do have a Japanese tea set which is probably just about antique now. My mother advised me to put a spoon in a cup when pouring tea to avoid cracking.
How one avoids cracking the teapot itself I don't know.

So I never use it.

A salon just sounds like a better class of saloon but much less fun.

NotSpaghetti

Can I (with my tin hat on) just say that some words create different images for me and so they suggest differentmeanings... "fun sponge" makes me think that a person is full of fun - as they find it wherever they go.

Also, someone asked earlier about drawing rooms - if someone asked me what I call my "drawing room" (where I draw) I'd call it my studio.

Also, someone asked earlier about drawing rooms - if someone asked me what I call my "drawing room" (where I draw) I'd call it my studio
😁
I call it the kitchen table

POSH - Port Out, Starboard Home 🚢🛳

Ooo a salon, I'd love that, (*Monica*). A room where we could sit and discuss not only literature and philosophy, but also the art of polite conversation and etiquette!!

My apologies DaisyAnneReturns for my poor choice of words. It was not my intention to make a personal attack
you are right you did not deserve it.

With regard to "drawing room" - my parents bought an old Victorian house and we had a dining room downstairs which we mostly used as a sitting room, but still called the dining room. On the middle floor was a more formal room, always known as the drawing room. We were middle class, not wealthy and I know some of my friends also had "drawing rooms".

I inherited the house and some of my student children and their friends lived there for some years. I got a bed-settee for the "drawing room" so I could stay sometimes and said it was out of bounds to the young people, so my son started referring to it as the "forbidden" room!

We live in Ireland where the class system doesn't seem to be as rigid as UK. My father was English, came from a working class family but got scholarships to grammar school and University. However, he felt hampered by the British class system and got a job in Ireland where his background was less important. I hope it has changed since his time, but when I read threads like this I see some people are still rather obsessed by class.

Drawing room is just one of the many names for a room where people mainly relax and sit. Lounge, living room, drawing room, sitting room, salon, reception room, parlour, front room. All have different origins, that deep in the annals of time may have had social connotations, but nowadays, who cares?

Call it anything you like, personally I say living room or sitting room.

We don't really regard them as collectors' items, DAR, just nice things that we will use. The two little glass cups we had been using were from a charity shop.

sago the word posh is in the original thread so I used it too.
Sorry if I offended you.

Joseann

Uh oh! I see I'm in the doghouse (again) at the top of page 9 for belittling people who have a drawing room? Apparently I was angrily insulting those with larger homes, which was where Marydoll stepped in to clarify my use of the word "weird".
Every other poster, DaisyAnne, corrected me politely on the etymology of the word "drawing" room, which I pretty much knew anyway. I just felt the actual word is bizarre, unusual and odd. (As does NotSpaghetti! 🎨 ) You obviously misunderstood DaisyAnne.

Anyway, SporeRB made me chuckle and interpreted my comment correctly. As far as I know, Joseann herself is very wealthy and very posh, so why on earth would she insult people who have large homes? As it happens, my grandmama and grandpapa had a drawing room with a huge fireplace, it was next to their dining room and across from their morning room. They used to have tapestries on the walls and I remember a chaise longue bed with a sausage cushion with which my cousin used to beat the hell out of me! Now that was some attack!

I think the whole of this thread was designed as a wind-up anyway. It's just a shame that it got personal for no reason, and I'm sorry one of GN's amicable posters has received unfair treatment.

I didn't misunderstand Joseann, I just don't find it weird. As I asked at the time, what else can you call one if you have one? It sounds like your grandparents didn't find it weird either.

Baggs

The teacup is made by Tenmokus and is Chinese. So now we drink green tea from a Japanese teapot (the "terrorist" one that caused problems at Heathrow for MrB 😅) and from two of these gorgeous cups – MrB's xmas present to me.

It really is lovely Baggs. Collecting special pieces seemed to go out of fashion for a while but I think it's coming back in again - "old fashioned" values returning perhaps.

I have been fascinated by "old money style" fashion rising in popularity.

Joseann

Uh oh! I see I'm in the doghouse (again) at the top of page 9 for belittling people who have a drawing room? Apparently I was angrily insulting those with larger homes, which was where Marydoll stepped in to clarify my use of the word "weird".
Every other poster, DaisyAnne, corrected me politely on the etymology of the word "drawing" room, which I pretty much knew anyway. I just felt the actual word is bizarre, unusual and odd. (As does NotSpaghetti! 🎨 ) You obviously misunderstood DaisyAnne.

Anyway, SporeRB made me chuckle and interpreted my comment correctly. As far as I know, Joseann herself is very wealthy and very posh, so why on earth would she insult people who have large homes? As it happens, my grandmama and grandpapa had a drawing room with a huge fireplace, it was next to their dining room and across from their morning room. They used to have tapestries on the walls and I remember a chaise longue bed with a sausage cushion with which my cousin used to beat the hell out of me! Now that was some attack!

I think the whole of this thread was designed as a wind-up anyway. It's just a shame that it got personal for no reason, and I'm sorry one of GN's amicable posters has received unfair treatment.

Where was this "unfair treatment" Joseann. Please quote.

Uh oh! I see I'm in the doghouse (again) at the top of page 9 for belittling people who have a drawing room? Apparently I was angrily insulting those with larger homes, which was where Marydoll stepped in to clarify my use of the word "weird".
Every other poster, DaisyAnne, corrected me politely on the etymology of the word "drawing" room, which I pretty much knew anyway. I just felt the actual word is bizarre, unusual and odd. (As does NotSpaghetti! 🎨 ) You obviously misunderstood DaisyAnne.

Anyway, SporeRB made me chuckle and interpreted my comment correctly. As far as I know, Joseann herself is very wealthy and very posh, so why on earth would she insult people who have large homes? As it happens, my grandmama and grandpapa had a drawing room with a huge fireplace, it was next to their dining room and across from their morning room. They used to have tapestries on the walls and I remember a chaise longue bed with a sausage cushion with which my cousin used to beat the hell out of me! Now that was some attack!

I think the whole of this thread was designed as a wind-up anyway. It's just a shame that it got personal for no reason, and I'm sorry one of GN's amicable posters has received unfair treatment.

How on earth has a perfectly reasonable response from MaryDoll come to this?

I agree with her entirely that good education creates social mobility, good grammar schools meant my grandparents (one of whom was born in a workhouse) were able to get their children a great education and as a result their grandchildren and great grandchildren have all had a much easier and privileged life than they had.

Whether or not it changes a person I’m not sure, my grandmother had enormous pride, her home was immaculate as were here manners and that of my mother and siblings, she knew from the start that she wanted more and my grandmother and grandfather worked so hard to achieve the best for their children.

I hate to use the class system but the family went up a notch, that meant using different words and different behaviours so I suppose it does change a person, although nobody in the family has ever been embarrassed of their roots.

Made in HongKong.

The teacup is made by Tenmokus and is Chinese. So now we drink green tea from a Japanese teapot (the "terrorist" one that caused problems at Heathrow for MrB 😅) and from two of these gorgeous cups – MrB's xmas present to me.

Too true.

Yeah, if in doubt, report. Funny how that doesn't work when the boot is on the other foot!