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Boyfriend is overly involved with grandchildren?

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AbbyD Mon 16-Sept-24 20:34:01

My 65 year old live in boyfriend has had three grandchildren in the last 3 years. One lives close by. I have just retired. Before I did retire, just after baby was born, I asked him not to commit to a regular babysitting schedule and to check with me before committing to babysitting. He agreed. The baby is 8 months old, and my BF has already committed to every weekday afternoon for this month, he says it’s “temporary “ and sometimes agrees to a weekend afternoon, just so they can go out. I have 2 grown children, no grands yet, and am not really a baby person. He has said that he would see the baby every day if he could. He has also intimated that if I don’t agree with whatever he’d like to do as far as seeing this GC, then I am indicating that I have a problem with his “kids”, and that perhaps he needs to think twice about “us”. I am devastated and do not think that this is typical grand parenting. He insists it’s normal. Isn’t it supposed to be “us” as a unit, and the kids and grands are “satellites”? I have no problem with him being involved in his gcs lives, and of course I expect him to be. But I also expect to be a priority, and that he should be seeing his long term relationship and future with me as his main focus. We are supposed to move down south in our retirement, but now I get the feeling he is doing a complete turn around. We have a great relationship and shared interests and love each other very much. I feel compromise would be fair, but he doesn’t seem willing to do much of that in this situation. He also has out of state grandchildren, who he sees every 6-8 weeks for a week at a time, and complains that it’s not enough and that he feels “alienated “ from them. Should I leave now and try to start a new life without him? Do you think this may settle into a more acceptable situation?

Cossy Tue 17-Sept-24 16:18:52

What a sad situation.

I’m surprised tbh he hasn’t asked you to move on!

Most of us on here would be outraged if a boyfriend/partner was asking us Gran’s not to be involved with our GC.

Maybe you both need to reassess what your priorities are, calmly as you can, and see if you can reach a mutually acceptable way forward together which makes you both happy flowers

BigBopper Tue 17-Sept-24 16:17:22

I find it amusing when you call a man in his 60's a boyfriend.

They are his grandchildren and when you love someone you share their lives.

Jackiest Tue 17-Sept-24 16:05:27

Iam64
The gender of the child isn’t the issue. The issue is men who find children sexually attractive

The issue is innocent men worried about being accused of finding children sexually attractive and not being able to play as freely with children as we can.

NotSpaghetti Tue 17-Sept-24 15:15:45

AbbyD
It seems so odd to me, particularly for a man (sorry to sound sexist, but in my world men were never that interested in their own kids, much less grandkids).

Men in our friendship group (as well as my husband) were hands-on dads and very involved with their children.
We knew families in the UK where the husband and wife worked part time and shared childcare and when we lived in America we knew two families there doing the same and one where dad did all the childcare.

My husband and I also worked p/t each and even my own father was very involved.

I realise this probably means these were the families we were drawn to - but it IS possible that he was a very hands-on dads in the first place.

Iam64 Tue 17-Sept-24 14:55:26

Norah

Jackiest

Although I dislike Davids comment on men having to be careful playing with kids. I mentioned it to my partner and he said yes it is something men have to be careful with as they can easily be falsely accused wrong motives and it can ruin their lives.

I tend to agree, especially if the grandchildren are female.

Our grandchildren apart from one grandson are all female. My husband is quite cautious not to be out and about, alone, with our granddaughters and their friends. He's safe, the thoughts of others are not safe.

He changes our GC nappies without batting an eye - it's public toilets, changing clothing after a swim, etc - perceptions in this world.

The gender of the child isn’t the issue. The issue is men who find children sexually attractive

Iam64 Tue 17-Sept-24 14:54:18

David49

I’m am “old man” now and am very conscious of the risk so are younger men, the Huw Edward’s saga among all the rest tars us all. Why do you think there are so few male teachers, male youth workers, the risk of being “ accused” is high, it is strange grandad wanting to get involved with babies.

The shortage of male teachers etc isn’t down to a risk of false allegations. The risk isn’t ‘high’

It is not strange for grandfather’s ’wanting to get involved with babies’

HeavenLeigh Tue 17-Sept-24 14:43:48

I also don’t think it will settle into a more acceptable situation regarding your feelings no!

HeavenLeigh Tue 17-Sept-24 14:41:27

He’s really told you where his top priorities lie, he’s already said he would see his grandchild every day if he could. He can’t make it any clearer.he will think twice about your relationship. If you don’t agree, you don’t so I don’t see it going any farther to be honest. I think your feelings should be listened to but he’s adamant so that’s a red flag for me

BlueBelle Tue 17-Sept-24 14:27:11

Well I m female and had a wonderful relationship with my maternal grandad I loved Saturdays when he would take me out to take photos or look for projects Likewise my Dad was a fantastic grandad to my three children ( 2 girls and a lad) he did so much for them and then for his two of his great grandkids boy and girl It would never have entered my grandad or my dads head that they could be accused of anything Sad world if that’s how men feel thank goodness Abbie’s man doesn’t see it that way
However I do think the relationships too far apart neither will change so it may be a bit doomed

Norah Tue 17-Sept-24 14:09:38

Jackiest

Although I dislike Davids comment on men having to be careful playing with kids. I mentioned it to my partner and he said yes it is something men have to be careful with as they can easily be falsely accused wrong motives and it can ruin their lives.

I tend to agree, especially if the grandchildren are female.

Our grandchildren apart from one grandson are all female. My husband is quite cautious not to be out and about, alone, with our granddaughters and their friends. He's safe, the thoughts of others are not safe.

He changes our GC nappies without batting an eye - it's public toilets, changing clothing after a swim, etc - perceptions in this world.

Desdemona Tue 17-Sept-24 11:34:32

The red flag is not how often he sees the grandchildren fundamentally. The red flag is that he isn't prepared to listen to you, or consider you and your feelings.

Dee1012 Tue 17-Sept-24 10:45:15

ferry23

David I think it is you who is tarring all men with the same brush.

I absolutely worshipped my maternal Grandfather and we used to have the best times together and those memories are in my heart forever. I didn't see so much of my paternal Grandfather but it was still a close and loving relationship.

Both of my children enjoyed wonderful relationships with both of their Grandfathers and I would have had no hesitation in leaving them with either.

I find such a train of thought a little unsettling.

I feel exactly the same and was also lucky enough to share the same relationships with my Grandfathers.

I miss them both terribly.

ferry23 Tue 17-Sept-24 10:37:54

David I think it is you who is tarring all men with the same brush.

I absolutely worshipped my maternal Grandfather and we used to have the best times together and those memories are in my heart forever. I didn't see so much of my paternal Grandfather but it was still a close and loving relationship.

Both of my children enjoyed wonderful relationships with both of their Grandfathers and I would have had no hesitation in leaving them with either.

I find such a train of thought a little unsettling.

Jackiest Tue 17-Sept-24 10:35:02

Although I dislike Davids comment on men having to be careful playing with kids. I mentioned it to my partner and he said yes it is something men have to be careful with as they can easily be falsely accused wrong motives and it can ruin their lives.

pascal30 Tue 17-Sept-24 10:21:47

This is an American post.. however if it is real I would suggest couples counselling so that you can both explore what you want in the future, (he obviously isn't going to move), in a neutral, unbiased setting

Parsley3 Tue 17-Sept-24 10:18:03

it is strange grandad wanting to get involved with babies.
I feel very sorry for you if this is what enters your head when you see grandads pushing a pram.

AbbyD your boyfriend has agreed to babysitting commitments without consulting you and I think that you do need to make decisions about your future with him. Perhaps you can still have a loving relationship but live apart so that your life is not entangled with his babysitting responsibilities.

Calendargirl Tue 17-Sept-24 09:58:58

I also think that the ‘moving down south after retirement’ was probably envisaged and talked about before any GC arrived on the scene, and frankly, he doesn’t want to move now!

He prefers to stay around locally and help out.

If the OP doesn’t share that viewpoint, and I can understand that, I think it might be the end of the relationship.

MissInterpreted Tue 17-Sept-24 09:54:26

David49

I’m am “old man” now and am very conscious of the risk so are younger men, the Huw Edward’s saga among all the rest tars us all. Why do you think there are so few male teachers, male youth workers, the risk of being “ accused” is high, it is strange grandad wanting to get involved with babies.

No, I'm sorry David, but there is nothing 'strange' whatsoever about a grandfather wanting to be involved with his grandchildren, whether they are babies or older children. There are grandfathers the length and breadth of the country who play a very involved - and important - role in the lives of their grandchildren, with no hint of any impropriety whatsoever.

David49 Tue 17-Sept-24 09:36:14

I’m am “old man” now and am very conscious of the risk so are younger men, the Huw Edward’s saga among all the rest tars us all. Why do you think there are so few male teachers, male youth workers, the risk of being “ accused” is high, it is strange grandad wanting to get involved with babies.

Jackiest Tue 17-Sept-24 09:19:33

Why not join him in looking after the grandchildren. Then you will become part of their lives.

Smileless2012 Tue 17-Sept-24 08:59:56

Good grief David what a cynical outlook to view a loving GF wanting to spend as much time as he can with his GC, as eyebrow raising from a safeguarding viewpoint.

When you were making plans for your future together Abby he would have had no idea how strong his desire would be to spend time with him/her, especially as his other GC live some distance away and he only sees them every 6 to 8 weeks.

He's been honest and said he needs to think twice about your relationship which is also what you're doing and it makes sense for you both to decide if this relationship has a realistic chance of working for both of you.

MissInterpreted Tue 17-Sept-24 08:59:11

Iam64

David49

From a safeguarding viewpoint old men and young children raise eyebrows, added to that, him putting GC before your relationship is a bad sign.

If he is living in your place it’s time for him to move out, to be honest he’s bored with you and the children are more interesting.

At the start you mention “live in” boyfriend, at the end you say should “I” move out. Maybe a typo?

What an odd post. This isn’t about ‘old men and young children’, it’s about a doting grandfather. The young children in my family and friendship group are blessed with doting, hands on grandparents, with grandfathers equally involved.

School playgrounds have the usual army of grandparents on pick up and drop off duty, including many couples or grandfathers.

Yes, I found it very odd too. I see nothing wrong with a grandfather wishing to spend time with his grandchildren and be involved with their lives. My grandson loves spending time with his 'papa' and doing a whole range of activities together.

wildswan16 Tue 17-Sept-24 08:56:28

What lucky children to have a grandparent to help care for them. If the children’s parents are happy for his involvement then it is a wonderful thing. It enriches the children’s lives and his. Love is not exclusive.

MissAdventure Tue 17-Sept-24 08:54:47

You can either throw yourself into family life with his children and grandchildren (they are an extension of him, after all) or you can call it a day, now.

You are unlikely, though, to find an older partner who doesn't have some "baggage", and his is at least happy, and shows his loving nature.

Iam64 Tue 17-Sept-24 08:41:57

David49

From a safeguarding viewpoint old men and young children raise eyebrows, added to that, him putting GC before your relationship is a bad sign.

If he is living in your place it’s time for him to move out, to be honest he’s bored with you and the children are more interesting.

At the start you mention “live in” boyfriend, at the end you say should “I” move out. Maybe a typo?

What an odd post. This isn’t about ‘old men and young children’, it’s about a doting grandfather. The young children in my family and friendship group are blessed with doting, hands on grandparents, with grandfathers equally involved.

School playgrounds have the usual army of grandparents on pick up and drop off duty, including many couples or grandfathers.