Grandson kicked out of daycare.

And this thread began in September

Mrs Sharples is a bit of an enigma.

I noticed that but felt that if people wanted to comment it might as well be on the current situation...

Wyllow3

This is the second MrsSharples thread, the current one is here where the situation has moved on
www.gransnet.com/forums/grandparenting/a1346723-I-don-t-know-what-to-do

MrsSharples has posted about the situation a few times but never comes back to acknowledge the advice which kind posters offer her.

This is the second MrsSharples thread, the current one is here where the situation has moved on
www.gransnet.com/forums/grandparenting/a1346723-I-don-t-know-what-to-do

petra

It’s obvious what’s going on here, lack of staff.
The situation where a child was hurt because the little lad needed more attention would not have happened if there had been sufficient staff.
I do see the other side of the coin Re funding from the government.

Completely agree! The owner will also be concerned about a potential Liability claim if the little girl was injured pushing his insurance premium up….. the nursery should be stepping up and ensuring the adult to child ratio is good.

petra

It’s obvious what’s going on here, lack of staff.
The situation where a child was hurt because the little lad needed more attention would not have happened if there had been sufficient staff.
I do see the other side of the coin Re funding from the government.

From the terminology I wonder if MrsShsrples is located in the USA, so I'm not sure but daycare would probably be private and would not be government-funded.

Anyway, we know the outcome as MrsSharples has posted since about how she is finding it difficult to cope with the little boy.
He sounds as if he needs to see a paediatrician to find out what is wrong, perhaps his hearing? Or an inability to concentrate?

I used to work in Social Services monitoring childminders, nurseries, playgroups, etc.

Depending on the size of that group/class there probably ought to have been at least one other worker there to avoid the situation you describe.

Also it was quite common for parents to contact us for details of childcare availability in the area and any specific needs which might need to be met.

Of course this was before a chainsaw was taken to various services. But it still might be worth contacting your local social services team to see if they have any lists or advice.

Good luck. What a worry.

I just find it terribly sad that children so young are not at home with their parents.

The daycare facility can't magic up staff for a child who needs one to one so frequently. It would be better to put him with a specialist childcare unit where speech therapy is a focus until he is comfortable to be one of many and return to mainstream.

petra

It’s obvious what’s going on here, lack of staff.
The situation where a child was hurt because the little lad needed more attention would not have happened if there had been sufficient staff.
I do see the other side of the coin Re funding from the government.

That was my immediate thought too.

Is there a childminder that could share time with your GS. My younger son went to a childminder at 3, a few hours a week, and she was wonderful.

Crossed posts petra re sufficient staff 👍

The daycare owner should have sufficient staff on duty.
There are all sorts of reasons why a three year old needs "dealing with" and it's not that child's fault if another child has a fall.

Having said that, if your grandson can get a place at the speech development pre-school in eight months time this might be for the best all round.
The one that's asked him to leave doesn't sound like it's a good place for him anyway.

It's hard for you and your husband MrsSharples, but if you can get through the next eight months together you'll be doing a great job for all the family.
Do keep in touch and let us know how you get on 🙂

It’s obvious what’s going on here, lack of staff.
The situation where a child was hurt because the little lad needed more attention would not have happened if there had been sufficient staff.
I do see the other side of the coin Re funding from the government.

You have to consider the health and well being of the other children. Just glad the little girl is ok.I’m afraid the parents have to do more, get his hearing checked, they need to get to the bottom of what is causing his behaviour problems to nip this in the bud.. Children cannot vocalise what their fears or worries are so young but something is behind it.
He must be so upset to leave the nursery and its really hard for his parents and gp who just want the best for him. I do hope with love and perseverance the grandson will be a happy little boy soon.

I’ve worked twenty three years in preschool room in a private nursery and have had some really horrendous behaved children and never known any daycare to expel a child. What on earth has he done to deserve this? If it’s just behaviour they need to work with him and the parents not expel him.

It will be a big change for both him and you. I think it’s a good idea to take him to as many activities as you can, where you can watch him interact with others of his age.
Are there any local childminders who could have him? Social Services should have a list of those properly registered.

Should he be assessed to see if he would be classified as having special needs? Even if he is officially waiting assesssment, it may give him priority getting into another nursery.

Does the school he is going to go to at 5 have a pre-school for children 3 plus, who might take him?

I too agree, his hearing needs to be checked

I agree get his hearing checked.

May I ask if his hearing is ok as it sounds as if he may not be hearing what is said to him that could be at the root of it all ?

It’s hard for you but there is not really much choice unless you can get him in anywhere else Poor chap if he enjoyed going it’s going to be a big change for you all and he ll miss his friends
I would hope it can be followed up soon and surely a GP can arrange a hearing test if he hasn’t had one
Good luck

My GS had speech therapy from age 4 for 5 years for phonetic dyslexia. His family could understand him and so could most other children but strangers hadn't a clue.
I spent a lot of one-to-one time with him and fortunately he was keen to learn and never minded being corrected.
The latter 3 years of therapy were excellent, private lessons twice weekly and and well worth the expense because his speech and vocabulary are excellent now.

That’s hard MrsSharples I can see both sides- it would be difficult for the daycare centre if he absorbs so much time. It is also a bit much to expect you to mind him. Will he go to school at 5 or is he delayed too much ? Speech at 3 , especially in males, is delayed fairly often and perhaps it is just a matter of time before he catches up. Maybe he is a bit hyper because of being unable to ask for what he wants ? Any chance of them getting him into another daycare centre? That’s what I would be looking at.